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Old 10-13-07, 10:54 AM
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Weekend Box Office Thread - Oct 12 - 14, 2007 - Hat-trick Edition

Another mediocre Tyler Perry movie tops the charts on Friday and is likely to do so for the weekend. This will be the third Tyler Perry movie to open at #1 in as many years (Diary of a Mad Black Woman, Madea's Family Reunion and now this.), I'm not a fan but I'm not the least bit surprised, anything based on his plays seems to do phenomenally well (Daddy's Little Girl was an original).

1. TYLER PERRY'S WHY DID I GET MARRIED? LIONS GATE 2,011 7,438,000 3,699 n/a 7,438,000
2. WE OWN THE NIGHT SONY 2,632 3,699,000 1,405 n/a 3,699,000
3. MICHAEL CLAYTON WARNER BROS. 2,511 3,234,000 1,288 1,542% 4,312,000
4. GAME PLAN, THE BVI 3,128 2,967,000 949 -32% 50,910,994
5. HEARTBREAK KID, THE PARAMOUNT 3,233 2,266,000 701 -51% 20,849,063
6. ELIZABETH: THE GOLDEN AGE UNIVERSAL 1,951 2,024,000 1,037 n/a 2,024,000
7. KINGDOM, THE UNIVERSAL 2,835 1,324,000 467 -54% 36,700,125
8. ACROSS THE UNIVERSE SONY 954 1,256,000 1,317 124% 10,194,667
9. RESIDENT EVIL: EXTINCTION SONY 2,848 736,000 258 -42% 46,146,113
10. GOOD LUCK CHUCK LIONS GATE 2,476 605,000 244 -45% 31,321,936
Old 10-13-07, 11:26 AM
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With the numbers Perry's films pull you'd think every black person in America went opening weekend. Personally I think they're incredibly annoying and unfunny, but I'm also not black which I imagine makes a world of difference.

I'm looking forward to 30 Days of Night next week.
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Michael Clayton isn't doing that well sadly. I like Tyler Perry. I haven't seen many of his films, but he seems like a good guy.

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Tyler Perry is a cinematical terrorist.
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Tyler Perry assassinates government agitators with concertina wire.
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wheres all the talk about white people with all the crap movies they make?
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im glad nateman241 gave us his biography so now we know he aint a bigot. look at him, hes so concerned about the state of black people in america.
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Tyler Perry is the black Uwe Boll.
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Wow, I'll admit I always thought his films looked like shit but I didn't know he was so reviled. I don't think I could ever watch a Perry film, and now with these comments I'll make sure I never do.
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I've never paid to watch his first two films, I only caught them on HBO. But man did they suck. He is hands down the worst film maker I've ever seen.
Old 10-13-07, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by KillerCannabis
Personally I think they're incredibly annoying and unfunny, but I'm also not black which I imagine makes a world of difference.
My take on this is "mainstream black audiences have crap taste just like everyone else, it's just different crap".

Originally Posted by Joe Molotov
Tyler Perry is the black Uwe Boll.
The comparison if a bit off because Perry's films actually do well. I would say he's more like Paul W.S. Anderson, where his films do well despite a lack of filmmaking talent.
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Originally Posted by DRG
My take on this is "mainstream black audiences have crap taste just like everyone else, it's just different crap".
I think it just shows that there is a huge market that, for the most part, is being completely ignored by mainstream studios. If there was a greater variety of films geared toward that audience, films by Tyler Perry would not be considered such an event and probably would not do as well. As it stands, his films have such devoted followings not because they're any good, but because there is not really anything else out there like them. That combined with good marketing, creates an enormous audience for his work.

I dunno, I could be talking out of my ass though. For the record, I'm white and I've only seen one of his movies (the first one, can't remember what it was called. Diary of a Mad Black Woman, I think?).
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The Tyler Perry success sort of disturbs me also. Not only does it (possibly) show that there's a huge market ignored by movie studios, but it also serves as a reminder of the massive cultural differences in this country. This New York Times article from today shed some light on things:



A New Movie Brings Out Throngs of Black Women
Michael Nagle for The New York Times

By JOHN ELIGON
Published: October 13, 2007

As afternoon gave way to evening yesterday at the Regal E-Walk Stadium 13 movie theaters in Times Square, the hollers of audience members during a showing of “Why Did I Get Married?” rang loud and clear at certain points.

“Slap her,” one person said.

“You better take that man,” another shouted.

“That’s right,” yelled yet another.

But the movie inspired more than emotional outbursts from audience members, many of whom found it to be cause for more serious reflection.

“The movie was very emotional, a good representation of the African-American community,” said Maurice Murphy, a 25-year-old Broadway actor who lives on the Upper West Side. “It did a good job of showing an array: socioeconomic differences, different church backgrounds.”

The reflection of reality that people seemed to find in “Why Did I Get Married?” was a main reason that, throughout the city yesterday, audiences of mostly black women crowded theaters to see it on the day of its nationwide release.

The movie, which is focused on four black upper-middle-class couples who go on a retreat together, is the latest from Tyler Perry, a playwright, screenwriter and actor who some say has the ability to accurately portray the black experience, especially that of women.

“I think that right now he’s absolutely on point for really contextualizing things that are going on with black women,” said Zandria Robinson, a Ph.D. candidate in the sociology department at Northwestern University, in a telephone interview yesterday.

Of course, many also find an appeal in some of Mr. Perry’s other specialties: humor, intrigue and honesty.

“He brings comedy out of things that are reality in the urban community,” said Junito Garcia, 30, who saw the movie in Harlem yesterday with his wife.

Within the movie’s first two minutes, an argument plays out between a couple driving to a cabin in the snow-covered mountains of Colorado. The stress and nuances of relationships are at the center of the movie, in which Janet Jackson plays a prominent psychologist with plenty of advice.

Ms. Robinson said that a Chris Rock movie, “I Think I Love My Wife,” which was released earlier this year, tackled similar subjects regarding marriage, but from the perspective of “a male existential struggle.”

What makes Mr. Perry’s movies especially honest, Ms. Robinson said, is that they are not one-sided. He exposes flaws and strengths of both men and women, she said.

“In a mysterious way, he’s able to tap black women and black men’s realities in order to put them in a dialogue with one another,” she said.

The excitement over “Why Did I Get Married?” began in full swing at a New York premiere earlier this week at Regal E-Walk, where the line snaked out the door and down the sidewalk. The crowd was mostly black women. Most of the men in line were accompanying women.

By 6 p.m. yesterday, four shows later in the evening at the Regal E-Walk were sold out. Crowds of people who could not get tickets were gathered outside the door. Some were headed to a theater on 34th Street to see if it had any tickets.

A movie that asks “Why Did I Get Married?” can appeal to a broader audience, said Darryl L. Townes, a psychologist based in Atlanta who specializes in families and relationship issues. It is “something that all couples go through,” he said.

Yet the film is especially relevant to blacks in the professions, Mr. Townes said. He said that since there are generally more women in the professions than men, the men often have more dating options. He said he often counseled married black men who struggle when they meet other women and question why they married. In some ways, he said, this dynamic is viewed negatively.

“It plays on the stereotype about black men being very sexual, being very aggressive,” he said by telephone. “A stereotype exists among the black community that, one, we don’t get married, first of all.”

Mr. Townes and others said they hoped that this movie could break down stereotypes, and that it could show that black relationships, though not perfect, can thrive.

“It showed black men and women are willing to fight, compromise and try to save their relationships,” said Karen Brame, 37, who recently finished a graduate degree in African-American studies at Columbia University and saw a matinee show yesterday in Harlem. “It’s realistic. It’s not a fairy tale. These are attainable things.”

For some, the movie was a learning experience.

Danielle Jamison, 17, from Brooklyn, attended the movie in Times Square with her 17-year-old boyfriend. She said she had garnered some new advice from Ms. Jackson’s character, the psychologist.

“It gives you new ways of talking things out,” Ms. Jamison said.

Her boyfriend, Jurrel Andrew, added, “It leans more toward the truth than other movies.”
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Originally Posted by Joe Molotov
Tyler Perry is the black Uwe Boll.



"Now that comment just goes too far..."
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Tyler Perry, like Dane Cook, has never said or done anything funny in his entire career.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
Tyler Perry, like Dane Cook, has never said or done anything funny in his entire career.
Come now... early Dane Cook was hilarious. His whole "trashed bathroom" joke is funny...
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Well at least Carlos Mencia isn't making movies....yet....
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I'll agree that Tyler Perry's movies are kinda shitty...but dispite being wholly against everything about them, I just believe that he just wants to put too much into his films.

Let's look at Madea's Family Reunion. There is a storyline about a woman being beaten by her fiance. Another young black woman falling in love with a good guy...while still having issues. Madea being a foster mother to a young girl. And then, out of nowhere, the family reunion. Each one of those stories could be a movie in itself, but Perry crams it all into one. He just seems to want to say too much, and because of it we miss out on everything. The film never finds ground because we never really get anything from any story. The first time I watched it, I was really into the Madea/foster kid stuff. I loved seeing old fashion discipline and the demand for respect that Madea tried to instill in the girl...all the while being funny. But the rest of it just didn't do it for me. I kept thinking, geez, I wish the whole movie was about Madea and this girl. Instead we get 5 scenes that the girl is in.

In the courtroom - shes a terror
In the car - terror
School Bus - Madea sticks up for her
Ironing scene - Madea whips her and then talks to her
Family Reunion - Girl is perfect.

It is just too quick and clean. We never see anything else, so we don't really care about the relationship or the change that happens in the girl. I kept thinking about Driving Ms. Daisy and how we truly do get to see Tandy and Freeman's characters develop, so when it is the time to be emotional we really get it. Perry doesn't really understand how to show that...almost as though he has never seen a movie EVER.

I have a black friend at work who loves Perry and will suppot anything he does. We have actually talked a lot about his movies. I'm with her in the fact that Perry wants to change the image of black people within America from the inside out (kinda like Bill Cosby). Just look at the old ladies talking during the reunion scene (again, a scene that was great but totally out of nowhere) . I also see that Perry loves women and wants to show how great black women are. He just needs to get lessons on how to cross over and make people who are not black care.

A movie with Madea, who is funny as hell, changing the life of a young emotionally stunted girl would be great. It could cross over to a white audience and maybe make a difference. But as long as his films open with 20+ million, ain't shit gonna change.
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Come now... early Dane Cook was hilarious. His whole "trashed bathroom" joke is funny...
Early Dane Cook? Really?


Dane Cook circa 2005?
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Early Dane Cook? Really?


Dane Cook circa 2005?
Oh come on, what is this, no love for the waffler?
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Oh come on, what is this, no love for the waffler?
"And ive got my Truth Syrup... Which is also low fat."
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He's in "The Heartbreak Kid" which came out last weekend.

Even more of a reason not to watch it. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Joe Molotov
Tyler Perry is the black Uwe Boll.
Damn, that's harsh.
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I'll never understand people talking back to the screen.
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I opened at #3.

1 N Tyler Perry's Why Did I Get Married LGF $21,500,000 - 2,011 - $10,691 $21,500,000 - 1
2 1 The Game Plan BV $11,506,000 -30.7% 3,128 +23 $3,678 $59,447,000 - 3
3 22 Michael Clayton WB $11,010,000 +1,429.4% 2,511 +2,496 $4,384 $12,087,000 - 2
4 N We Own the Night Sony $11,000,000 - 2,362 - $4,657 $11,000,000 - 1
5 2 The Heartbreak Kid P/DW $7,425,000 -47.0% 3,233 +4 $2,296 $26,001,000 - 2
6 N Elizabeth: The Golden Age Uni. $6,183,000 - 2,001 - $3,089 $6,183,000 - 1
7 3 The Kingdom Uni. $4,566,000 -53.0% 2,836 +34 $1,610 $39,954,000 $70 3
8 12 Across the Universe SonR $4,000,000 +105.6% 954 +590 $4,192 $12,909,000 - 5
9 4 Resident Evil: Extinction SGem $2,650,000 -41.4% 2,249 -599 $1,178 $48,067,000 - 4
10 5 The Seeker: The Dark Is Rising Fox $2,150,000 -42.6% 3,173 +32 $677 $7,104,000 - 2

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