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Premise 09-03-07 05:18 AM

"Wizard Of Oz" remake
 
From Variety Magazine:

Warner Bros. and Village Roadshow Pictures are teaming on "Oz," a revisionist take on the L. Frank Baum books that hatched "The Wizard of Oz."
Project was acquired based on an idea by Todd McFarlane that was fleshed out and pitched by Josh Olson ("A History of Violence").

Olson will write and McFarlane will produce with Thunder Road’s Basil Iwanyk. Rick Benattar ("Shoot ’Em Up") is exec producer.

Conversations with McFarlane and Olson make it clear that they are still working out the tone of the film. They have plenty to work with. WB has owned the rights to the original "The Wizard of Oz" since buying Ted Turner’s empire, whose assets included the film and other plum titles in the MGM library.

McFarlane has a vision of Oz that is a dark, edgy and muscular PG-13, without a singing Munchkin in sight. That was clear with a toy line he launched several years ago that featured a buxom Dorothy and Toto reimagined as an oversized snarling warthog. Olson has something a little tamer, and PG, in mind.

"I saw those toys, and Dorothy as some bondage queen isn’t something I want to do," Olson told Daily Variety. "The appealing thing about the Baum books to me is how wildly imaginative they are. There are crazy characters from amazing places. I want this to be ‘Harry Potter’ dark, not ‘Seven’ dark."

Both McFarlane and Olson are on the same page when it comes to the promise of marrying the Baum story with benefits of visual effects advancements.

"My pitch was ‘How do we get people who went to ‘Lord of the Rings’ to embrace this?’ " McFarlane said. "I want to create an interpretation that has a 2007 wow factor. You’ve still got Dorothy trapped in an odd place, but she’s much closer to the Ripley from ‘Alien’ than a helpless singing girl."

Olson was keeping plot specifics to himself but said the film will be closer to a sequel than a remake.

"We still want to take advantage of the first film, which might be the most beloved of all time, and rely on its place in your cultural memory to bubble beneath the surface," Olson said. "A lot of the plot is mine, but the characters are all Baum."

Sounds like it could be good, since it's not a direct remake. It seems it will be more like the Willy Wonka and Charlie and the chocolate factory movies.

Giantrobo 09-03-07 05:22 AM

Ought to be interesting. I know the 'purists' will freak out but who cares. I think I'd rather see "Wicked" in film form but to be honest, I loved Todd's freaky Wizard of Oz figures.

Also, wouldn't this be the 2nd sequel?

The Bus 09-03-07 07:14 AM

Dorothy:


Toto:


Lion:


Scarecrow:


Tin Man:



I might have been excited for this when I was 14.

Baron Of Hell 09-03-07 08:37 AM

You forgot the wizard.

Any way a dark version of the wizard of oz could be good. All they really would need to do is make is follow the book to make it darker. You should read how the tinman became the tinman. Heck The Wiz was a darker version of the wizard of oz and it was great movie.

The Alice in Wonderland movie with SMG sounds like it is going to better though.

marty888 09-03-07 08:41 AM

And the good news is ..... there is <i>nothing</i> anyone can do that will diminish our appreciation of the 1939 classic.

MBoyd 09-03-07 09:11 AM

God, give this OZ revisionsim a rest already. It has been WAY overdone. Starting with that Philip Jose Farmer book maybe? I think it was called Barnstomer Of OZ or something like that. And we have one coming from Sci Fi channel. (ugh)

What I think would be nice is a straight non musical adaptation of the original books which I really enjoyed as a kid.

zombiezilla 09-03-07 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by Baron Of Hell
"The Wiz" was a darker version of "The Wizard Of Oz".

Thanks for my first out-loud laugh of the morning. I may have a new signature with that one, LOL.

Giantrobo 09-03-07 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by zombiezilla
Thanks for my first out-loud laugh of the morning. I may have a new signature with that one, LOL.

:lol: i get it. Wait a minute...:grunt:

nateman 09-03-07 09:57 AM


"My pitch was ‘How do we get people who went to ‘Lord of the Rings’ to embrace this?’ " McFarlane said. "I want to create an interpretation that has a 2007 wow factor. You’ve still got Dorothy trapped in an odd place, but she’s much closer to the Ripley from ‘Alien’ than a helpless singing girl."
Sounds like an Oscar winner.

I can’t wait until this film is actually made; the reviews are going to provide a lot of comedy.

LivingINClip 09-03-07 10:06 AM

All I know is if Dorothy looks anything like that figure, then, I'm sold.

:drool:

MasterofDVD 09-03-07 02:10 PM

As much as I enjoyed the figures, they still grace the shelves in my home theater, I have little interest in the movie. Each figures came with part of the story. I found it to be pretty boring.

The Antipodean 09-03-07 02:30 PM

Some remakes ought to be illegal.

PopcornTreeCt 09-03-07 03:14 PM

I wouldn't consider this a remake. More like an exploitation.

Perkinsun Dzees 09-03-07 03:25 PM

Todd McFarlane needs to stick to buying baseballs and stay out of the movie business.

Giantrobo 09-03-07 04:09 PM

Boy, did I call it or did I call it? I know my "purists" well. :lol:

Jason 09-03-07 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Boy, did I call it or did I call it? I know my "purists" well. :lol:

Meh. I'm not a purist (hell, I don't even like Oz), but I can't see this being anything but complete shit. Not everything needs a dark counterpart to it.

Then again, I think Todd McFarlane is one of the worst things to ever happen to comics, so I might be a teeny bit biased. :p

cranberries fan 09-03-07 05:06 PM

Please for love god stop remaking all these great film (Halloween,Wizard of OZ,Escape From NY).When will it end? what's next Gone With The Wind!

resinrats 09-03-07 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by cranberries fan
what's next Gone With The Wind!


Sam Jackson as Rett Butler: "I don't fuckin' give a damn...bitch." Atlanta is nuked instead of burned. & Scarlet is a hooker/drug addict (overdoses at one point). P Diddy does the hip hop theme song.

Supermallet 09-03-07 05:33 PM

Hey, if they can do something interesting with it, I'm all for it. Just give me the original in HD and they can do whatever they want with a remake. Funny how with all this talk of a darker Oz, no one has mentioned Return to Oz, which I consider to be a really cool little movie.

cranberries fan 09-03-07 11:09 PM

You are so right Suprmallet-Return to Oz is "great little flim" that was a little to dark for it's time.
It was two baum books in one making RT-OZ truer to the stories than the 1939 classic!

mndtrp 09-04-07 01:28 AM

Return to Oz was pretty disturbing.

I wouldn't mind seeing a darker take, but those figures aren't what I would want it to look like.

Jackskeleton 09-04-07 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Boy, did I call it or did I call it? I know my "purists" well. :lol:


Sorry, But McFarlane is a worthless hack and his Twisted Land of Oz series was a waste of smelly plastic molded into statue poses.

I liked Return to Oz. I liked American McGee's Alice. I like dark things. I do not like McFarlane's idea of dark though. It's just not good at all.

Shit, read the stories that came along with the toys and it sounds like terrible circle jerk fan fiction you'll find in the ranks of other terrible fan fiction written on the internet about any subject.
http://home.casema.nl/dr_dark/Twiste...hapter%200.htm

Lets put it this way, I'm not a 1939's purist. I just wish that in all this talk about remakes and all the oz projects such as Sci-Fi's Tinman and even the comic book dorothy that they would at least go back to the classic books.

What kills me the most is that they're making this movie and yet no one seems interested in making a movie that's actually remotely faithful to the book.

nateman 09-04-07 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by resinrats
Sam Jackson as Rett Butler: "I don't fuckin' give a damn...bitch." Atlanta is nuked instead of burned. & Scarlet is a hooker/drug addict (overdoses at one point). P Diddy does the hip hop theme song.

I'd watch that!

Charlie Goose 09-04-07 07:46 AM

Just so you know, the classic 1939 version of TWoO was also a remake.

Superman07 09-04-07 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
I liked American McGee's Alice.

I thought that was being developed into something. TV or movie I'm not sure. There are so many good candidates that would fit the role:

Mena Suvari
Thora Birch
Christina Ricci

baracine 09-04-07 09:29 AM

What, no love for "Wicked"' the novel (which I have read) and the musical (which I haven't seen but I get the idea)?

http://www.wickedthemusical.co.uk/im...about-pic4.jpg

One of the greatest movie-related quotes of all time: Quincy Jones on orchestrating/arranging the score to "The Wiz":


It was like polishing shit.
Please note: This quote is usually falsely ascribed to his work on Michael Jackson's records.

JaxComet 09-04-07 12:34 PM

Where can I buy those? Awesome figures. It looks like the Lion is giving the finger....... :D

BJacks 09-04-07 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Superman07
I thought that was being developed into something. TV or movie I'm not sure. There are so many good candidates that would fit the role:

Mena Suvari
Thora Birch
Christina Ricci

"American McGee's Alice" has been stuck in development limbo for years with Sarah Michelle Gellar attached. I asked her about it a few months ago and she had nothing to say. As far as she's concerned, it's pretty much dead.

With regard to "Oz," not sure if it's already been stated in this thread, but the screenwriter has already said that he's going in his own direction and it's not the McFarlane route. He wants to go semi-dark, but keep it light enough for PG-13.

Groucho 09-04-07 12:56 PM

If they want to go darker than the 1939 film, but not past PG -- why not return to the source material and do a straight adaptation of the original novel?

Actually, if they filmed the Tin Man's origin story that alone would garner an R. :lol:

edstein 09-04-07 01:06 PM

I'd rather see Alice vs. another Oz remake.

Giantrobo 09-04-07 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by baracine
What, no love for "Wicked"' the novel (which I have read) and the musical (which I haven't seen but I get the idea)?

Read my first post. I have the book but I haven't read it yet. But from what little I've seen and heard of the musical the story sounds fascinating.

The Antipodean 09-04-07 03:25 PM

"Wicked" is great, but nothing like these soft-porn McFarlane figures things except that it also takes a different look at the Oz stories. Difference being, one is adult fiction and one is aimed at 14-year-old video gamers.

ReduxGuy 09-04-07 04:08 PM

I think it's a cool idea, but Olson should just adapt McFarlane's story.

That was some deeply twisted shit and would make for an incredibly creepy film.

JJE-187 09-04-07 09:05 PM

The Sci-Fi channel has a Mini-Series remake coming out this december called The Tin Man, I think all the chrarcters are human with qualities that tie them together, like the tin man was traped in a giant metal coffin and crap like that

MBoyd 09-05-07 12:26 AM

I hope it has a crossover with Flash Gordon.

Jackskeleton 09-05-07 12:50 AM

Dorothy is the last Cylon. duh.

baracine 09-05-07 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Read my first post. I have the book but I haven't read it yet. But from what little I've seen and heard of the musical the story sounds fascinating.

I thought the novel would make a great adult drama, especially with the possibilities of CGI and what with the total reversal of our expectations about the Wicked Witch's and the Wizard's back story.

Unfortunately, now that there is a succesful musical, the tendency would be to adapt the musical based on the novel and not the novel itself. This is sad because, no matter how good it is, the musical is still a somewhat dumbed-down version of the novel and the very idea of a musical would scare a lot of spectators away. Even when a musical is a very great musical to begin with, it often gets watered down in the process of filming (e.g.: "A Little Night Music").

I don't see what Todd McFarlane can bring to this project anyway, except change the title to "The Wizard of Ooze". Shouldn't he be playing with his dolls or something?

Premise 02-16-10 03:29 AM

Re: "Wizard Of Oz" remake (Todd Mcfarlane)
 
Apparently, he can't find the right script.

http://geeksofdoom.com/2009/10/17/to...story-details/


(Mcfarlanes concept)
In mine, [Dorothy is] up in the Antarctic, and there’s bad weather. The point is that when you’re in bad weather in a shitty place up north, it is completely gray. That would be our ‘black & white [sequence].’ Then she falls into her Shangri-La, called Oz, where suddenly everything’s in color.

There’s still a thing called Toto, except its the biggest thing in the movie and not the smallest thing. [The beast called Toto] basically ate the first dog, and it’s this big thing that [the inhabitants of Oz] ride. They’ve given this generic word… so instead of horses, [people] ride Totos.

riotinmyskull 02-16-10 03:38 AM

Re: "Wizard Of Oz" remake (Todd Mcfarlane)
 
i love that a remake "can't find the right script"

Giantrobo 02-16-10 03:45 AM

Re: "Wizard Of Oz" remake (Todd Mcfarlane)
 
:lol:


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