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Airplane! is one of my favorite comedies but there's a LOT of jokes in that movie that fall completely flat. Particularly ones involving Johnny, one of the most annoying characters in movie history.

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I can't believe you don't like Johnny. You just caused me to look up Stephen Stucker, who played the character. He passed away in 1986 from AIDS. :(

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A few more since the last time I posted in this thread

Legends of the Fall
War Horse
Miller's Crossing
Se7en
L.A. Confidential
Chinatown
The Right Stuff

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This thread is interesting. I skipped stuff like "War Horse", because I though it looked dreadful. But then someone calls it a "perfect" movie. So I guess I have to watch it sometime.

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I'd argue that it's very well made, at the very least it's a good movie. There's nothing inherently wrong w/ it technically but it's movie that tries to get you emotional by pulling the generic strings to do so. Otherwise...I really liked the movie and would totally welcome a Spielberg film about WW1. A war that in the visual, I don't see much of in the modern creative field. WW2 is was way way way overexposed, I love the details of that war but then..we got cluttered w/ a lot of shit in the past 15 years.

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It's a Wonderful Life
Citizen Kane
Singin' in the Rain
Double Indemnity
The Wizard of Oz
Dumbo
Casablanca
Scott Pilgrim vs. the World
Miller's Crossing
Amadeus
Say Anything
Stop Making Sense
The Killer (Woo)
Swimming to Cambodia
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
The Graduate
The Third Man

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I would also argue that Plan Nine from Outer Space is a perfect movie, though not necessarily a well-made one.

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I hadn't seen it come up until now. There's still so much stuff for me to catch up on.

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Well Ed Wood did put his heart & soul into it. If some of today's filmmakers had even half of the passion Wood had, they would probably put out better films.

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As far as HAL reading lips...at the time remember computers took up entire rooms. Nowadays the computers we use to type these posts are exponentially more powerful than what they used to launch spacecraft back then. HAL was practically a fantasy element at that point, everything he could do was more than anybody could imagine at the time, including the lip reading. Nowadays we take a lot of that for granted and it's not so far fetched that a computer could read lips.

Frankly 2001 is amazing that this was the only thing they got wrong. Well, aside from not making it to Jupiter by the year 2001 ;) But still it's not terrible and you can look past it. Most tech-related movies are instantly dated, but this hung in there remarkably well.

But again it's about the movie itself and the rules established in its fictional world. You can nitpick factual stuff all you want, but it's all about how a movie uses it's rules.

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Who the hell was Johnny? I don't remember anybody I found annoying in AIRPLANE! so I can't place him.

Oh, wait, was he the gay guy who made the hat out of a newspaper?

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Yeah, that's him. I love the movie but every time that asshole pops up I just roll my eyes at his terribly annoying schtick.

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Agreed. That's as close to a "perfect movie" as I can think of. It's everything the maker wanted it to be and it exceeds audience expectations (unless some poor soul was actually expecting a serious horror or sci-fi movie). I don't know that I'd want to change or "correct" anything in it. Every shot, every flimsy prop, every crude set, every awkward move by an actor in it absolutely belongs there. It's a movie that gives me extraordinary satisfaction every time I see it.

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Johnny had the funniest moment in the whole movie but forgot what part.

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This movie was just about perfect to me:

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War Horse huh?

So I'm guessing you are both blind and deaf?

It was one of the worst movies last year. It was terrible, just terrible. It's laughably bad, as in, I laughed while watching it because it was so bad.