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superdeluxe 12-03-12 03:48 PM

Re: The Hobbit
 

Originally Posted by whoopdido (Post 11492636)
Do the reviews even matter for a movie like this? I mean for anybody that saw Lord of the Rings and liked the movies, would it really matter if the reviews weren't great? To all of you that are planning on seeing the movie, which I have to believe is a large percentage of this forum, would you actually NOT go see it if the reviews weren't very good?

Not really, but I think the 48 vs 24 discussion matters. Most of the review was centered around the technology.

superdeluxe 12-03-12 05:47 PM

Re: The Hobbit
 
For those that like trailers, the following will be showing :

Oblivion -1st trailer
Man of steel - 2nd trailer
Star trek - 1st trailer
Pacific Rim - 1st trailer

superdeluxe 12-03-12 11:16 PM

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Here they come NZ Herald:


The first thing you see at the start of An Unexpected Journey, is the lighting of a candle as an older Bilbo recalls his adventurous days in flash-forward to the LOTR era. Maybe the implied question is: can The Hobbit hold a candle to what's gone before?

This first movie, at least, offers a resounding yes.

Stars: 4.5/5

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/front-page-t...ectid=10851910

superdeluxe 12-03-12 11:19 PM

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Tvnz:



Magical, majestic, mystical and utterly masterful, The Hobbit movie is an enthralling,engrossing and unmissable return to Middle Earth (especially if you're a committed LOTR fan).

I can't wait to go There and Back Again with The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug next year.
Four stars

http://tvnz.co.nz/hobbit-news/unexpe...review-5257319

superdeluxe 12-03-12 11:22 PM

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Stuff.co.nz:


When the credits start to roll to Neil Finn's Song of the Lonely Mountain, after nearly three hours, the theatre burst into applause and nobody I talked to complained of sickness or drowsiness after the 48fps experience, but felt perfectly emerged into Middle-earth.

Will the 48fps be loved by everybody? Certainly not. Will it be the future of filming? Probably.

Great cast, great special effects and great entertainment.* Yes, Peter Jackson is back at his game, and I can't wait to see if he keeps it up in what's to come.
Reviewer's rating: Four and a half stars
http://i.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/f...pected-Journey

anomynous 12-03-12 11:24 PM

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Hobbit is "Repetitive"

superdeluxe 12-03-12 11:25 PM

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Indiewire:


he director’s previous trilogy. As epic, grandiose, and emotionally appealing as the previous pictures, 'The Hobbit' doesn’t stray far from the mold, but it’s a thrilling ride that’s one of the most enjoyable, exciting and engaging tentpoles of the year.
[B+]

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayli...epic-20121204#

superdeluxe 12-03-12 11:30 PM

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Collider:


While The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey is destined to be a stand-alone adventure classic in the vein of The Neverending Story, Willow and Legend, it is surely strongest when viewed as a satisfactory part of a greater whole.
A-
http://collider.com/hobbit-movie-review/215612/

Artman 12-04-12 12:52 AM

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Interesting... McKellen on the Today show interview (all of three minutes...why do they even bother?) said he has five wks of shooting next year - guess that's for the expanded remaining films? (depending on when it is in the yr, could be for the 2nd film also).

OldBoy 12-04-12 03:49 AM

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82% @ RT (11 Reviews)

Hiro11 12-04-12 05:54 AM

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Only blog reviews so far, looks like. What are the major newspapers waiting for?

RichC2 12-04-12 08:11 AM

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It's got a 71% on rt right now, similar complaints - some great parts but slow going, especially at the beginning.

Artman 12-04-12 09:35 AM

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Actually glad to hear it takes it's time to introduce everything...especially looking at it being a near 9 hr story, while also the start of a 20+ hr series.

DGibFen 12-04-12 09:47 AM

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I love reviewers that try too hard to be noticed by restoring to the worse hyperbole possible:


... this is less a faithful adaptation of Tolkien's "The Hobbit" as much as Jackson trying to recapture the magic of the "Lord of the Rings" movies and failing miserably. In other words "An Unexpected Journey" may as well be "The Phantom Menace" and God help us all if the next two movies aren't better than this one.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/reviewsnews.php?id=97646


Still, let's be honest: J.R.R. Tolkien and Ayn Rand top the list of writers who penned beloved, but badly written books. Tolkien could invent names and languages, but he couldn't create a plot at gunpoint.
http://www.boxoffice.com/reviews/201...pected-journey

Jay G. 12-04-12 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hiro11 (Post 11493294)
Only blog reviews so far, looks like. What are the major newspapers waiting for?

For the movie to come out? Most movie reviews in papers run the day of, or at best a few days before, release because that's when reader interest in reviews is going to be highest.

DGibFen 12-04-12 10:00 AM

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Eileen Moran, a driving creative force at Weta Digital and longtime visual effects executive producer for Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh, and Joe Letteri, died in New Zealand Tuesday. At the top of her profession, Moran worked with James Cameron on Avatar, Steven Spielberg on The Adventures Of Tintin, Ridley and Tony Scott, and with Jackson on King Kong, The Lord Of The Rings trilogy, The Lovely Bones, and the upcoming The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey.
http://www.deadline.com/2012/12/r-i-p-eileen-moran/

Jay G. 12-04-12 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Artman (Post 11493229)
Interesting... McKellen on the Today show interview (all of three minutes...why do they even bother?) said he has five wks of shooting next year - guess that's for the expanded remaining films? (depending on when it is in the yr, could be for the 2nd film also).

That just sounds like a pickup shoot. They did 6 weeks of pickups each year for the LOTR films:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princip...ilogy#Pick-ups

slop101 12-04-12 10:38 AM

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9 hours for LOTR? Great!
9 hours for what's essentially a short childrens' story (a book that's less than an 8th the length of LOTR)? Extraneous filler!

Jay G. 12-04-12 10:47 AM

Re: The Hobbit
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 11493567)
9 hours for LOTR? Great!
9 hours for what's essentially a short childrens' story (a book that's less than an 8th the length of LOTR)? Extraneous filler!

To be fair, they still cut a lot from LOTR to reach 9 hours (or even the 11 hours of the extended cuts). An unabridged reading of The Hobbit is 11 hours long.

Also, many, many short stories are expanded to feature length films. Considering they're adapting a novel, and adding in material from the appendices of another, I don't think it's fair to say that there's extraneous filler based just on the run time.

mdc3000 12-04-12 10:58 AM

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I saw it last night - for the most part I loved it - had issues with the first 40 minutes but I was so distracted because I FUCKING HATED THE 48FPS.

Yes, it makes the 3d more fluid and immersive than it has been in the past - but that is completely lost because of how strange everything else moving LOOKS. Every effects shot feels like a videogame, not because of the quality of cgi, but because of the fluidity of the motion...not in a good way.

The Soap Opera effect you get from frame interpolation on 120hz+ tv's FEELS the same as this, even if this is TRUE FRAMES. There were many times when motion felt sped up and looked cartoony, because of the new format - you'll feel like you're watching the BBC version because the frame rate makes things feel off. If this is the future of filmmaking, I'm very disappointed. I need to reserve final judgement until I can see a 24fps version because I couldn't relax and get into it until the first act was over. I don't think fans of the book will be disappointed and Gollum fans will LOVE his scenes. They picked a decent endpoint and the final shot makes me eager for the next one but I truly hope that moviegoers reject this 48fps nonsense and get back to good old 24.

TomOpus 12-04-12 12:00 PM

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I wonder if they will ever have a marathon of all six movies in the extended versions.

pinata242 12-04-12 01:39 PM

Re: The Hobbit
 

Originally Posted by TomOpus (Post 11493653)
I wonder if they will ever have a marathon of all six movies in the extended versions.

"They" aren't even doing it now with four movies. The LOTR marathons I've seen are the weekend before.

Now, I'm sure when the sixth movie hits, things might be different like with Harry Potter 1-8. But, even so, FotR:EE+TTT:EE+Rotk:EE+AUJ:EE+TDoS:EE+TaBA:TE will easily be 24 hours including intermissions.

Shannon Nutt 12-04-12 02:37 PM

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I'm convinced after reading this thread and the one we had the first half of the year re: The Dark Knight Rises, that we need a Bane movie shot in 48fps. Your eyes and ears will never be the same! :)

bunkaroo 12-04-12 02:44 PM

Re: The Hobbit
 

Originally Posted by mdc3000 (Post 11493585)
I saw it last night - for the most part I loved it - had issues with the first 40 minutes but I was so distracted because I FUCKING HATED THE 48FPS.

Yes, it makes the 3d more fluid and immersive than it has been in the past - but that is completely lost because of how strange everything else moving LOOKS. Every effects shot feels like a videogame, not because of the quality of cgi, but because of the fluidity of the motion...not in a good way.

The Soap Opera effect you get from frame interpolation on 120hz+ tv's FEELS the same as this, even if this is TRUE FRAMES. There were many times when motion felt sped up and looked cartoony, because of the new format - you'll feel like you're watching the BBC version because the frame rate makes things feel off. If this is the future of filmmaking, I'm very disappointed. I need to reserve final judgement until I can see a 24fps version because I couldn't relax and get into it until the first act was over.

This is why I won't see it in anything other than 2D for the first showing. The performances and screenplay are what's most important, and the new visual presentation will be a distraction from that for me. I will give the HFR version a shot at some point, but I expect my reaction will be similar, no matter how open minded I am going in.

Why So Blu? 12-04-12 05:26 PM

Re: The Hobbit
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 11493567)
9 hours for LOTR? Great!
9 hours for what's essentially a short childrens' story (a book that's less than an 8th the length of LOTR)? Extraneous filler!

For the millionth time - Jackson isn't tying this around the freakin' books, he's tying it to his films. There's a BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE.


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