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Re: The Hobbit
Originally Posted by Sean O'Hara
(Post 11323291)
You know, in the original version of the Hobbit published in 1937, Gollum was actually a nice guy who happily showed Bilbo the way out of the mountain after losing the riddle game?
I've always wanted to read the original pages but the only editions I've ever read of The Hobbit were the revised ones. |
Re: The Hobbit
Originally Posted by superdeluxe
(Post 11323253)
You can get that much from the appendixes and the Hobbit?
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Re: The Hobbit
Originally Posted by RocShemp
(Post 11323393)
I've always wanted to read the original pages but the only editions I've ever read of The Hobbit were the revised ones.
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Re: The Hobbit
Christopher Tolkien give his reaction to the films:
http://www.examiner.com/article/chri...paper-le-monde Analysis of three early attempts at adapting LTOR, with further quotes from J.R.R. Tolkien on the Zimmerman draft: http://ou.academia.edu/JanetCroft/Pa...man_and_Beagle A 1966 12-minute short film adaptation of The Hobbit, ostensibly made to retain film rights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBnVL1Y2src More info: http://genedeitchcredits.com/roll-th...liam-l-snyder/ |
Re: The Hobbit
Originally Posted by milo bloom
(Post 11323229)
I'd say Lucas took more from Frank Herbert's Dune, than LOTR. Also a hefty helping of Flash Gordon.
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Re: The Hobbit
Originally Posted by Jay G.
(Post 11323684)
Christopher Tolkien give his reaction to the films:
http://www.examiner.com/article/chri...paper-le-monde Analysis of three early attempts at adapting LTOR, with further quotes from J.R.R. Tolkien on the Zimmerman draft: http://ou.academia.edu/JanetCroft/Pa...man_and_Beagle A 1966 12-minute short film adaptation of The Hobbit, ostensibly made to retain film rights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBnVL1Y2src More info: http://genedeitchcredits.com/roll-th...liam-l-snyder/ |
Re: The Hobbit
The staff at the one ring net give their thoughts on the footage at comic con, obvious spoilers, but it is safe to say that they loved what they saw:
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012...bbit-showreel/ |
Re: The Hobbit
Christopher Tolkien:
They gutted the book, making an action movie for 15-25 year olds. And it seems that The Hobbit will be of the same ilk. Tolkien became...devoured by his popularity and absorbed by the absurdity of the time. The gap widened between the beauty, the seriousness of the work, and what it has become is beyond me. This level of marketing reduces to nothing the aesthetic and philosophical significance of this work. |
Re: The Hobbit
Originally Posted by covenant
(Post 11324836)
Christopher Tolkien:
Pretty much what I'd expect an 88 year old would say. |
Re: The Hobbit
Hey Chris, stop living off your old man's work and do something worthwhile on your own.
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Re: The Hobbit
Originally Posted by RocShemp
(Post 11324903)
Gimpli had an Orce
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Re: The Hobbit
I'd like to take a baseball bat to that old man's hip. He sounds like every stereotypical old man in the world. Just a bitter, grumpy, mean old man.
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Re: The Hobbit
And irrelevant. Who cares?
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Re: The Hobbit
Originally Posted by RocShemp
(Post 11324903)
Gimpli
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Re: The Hobbit
Originally Posted by whoopdido
(Post 11325002)
I'd like to take a baseball bat to that old man's hip. He sounds like every stereotypical old man in the world. Just a bitter, grumpy, mean old man.
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Re: The Hobbit
Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
(Post 11323687)
You can see a lot of pieces of LOTR in the original Star Wars movie. Luke is like Frodo, leaving his lifelong home with an old wizard for a great quest. Meets up with a potential ne'er do-well at a tavern. The old wizard sacrifices himself to a dark monster so the rest of his fellowship can get away. Darth Vader is a lot like the Nazgul, a fallen man, heavy-breathing and cloaked in black, who does the bidding of an unseen evil.
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Re: The Hobbit
Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC
(Post 11322427)
Alright. I know the estate doesn't like the Jackson films being made from the works but....why? They do just not honestly like them or cuz they're not getting paid? Or what?
And to be fair to Christopher Tolkien's point of view, the book is much deeper than the films. It holds a depth and power for lovers of language and literature that the film adaptations simply don't, and probably can't, touch. They really did "gut the book" in many ways to make a movie out of it. They had to boil it down to its essence as a story, which is only one aspect of what the book is doing. That's not necessarily a bad thing though, and it's not to say the movies aren't good. Just very different in many ways from the source material (perhaps out of necessity). It takes some open-mindedness to appreciate both for what they are. |
Re: The Hobbit
Gimpli. Lol.
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Re: The Hobbit
Originally Posted by Jay G.
(Post 11323684)
Christopher Tolkien give his reaction to the films:
http://www.examiner.com/article/chri...paper-le-monde Analysis of three early attempts at adapting LTOR, with further quotes from J.R.R. Tolkien on the Zimmerman draft: http://ou.academia.edu/JanetCroft/Pa...man_and_Beagle A 1966 12-minute short film adaptation of The Hobbit, ostensibly made to retain film rights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBnVL1Y2src More info: http://genedeitchcredits.com/roll-th...liam-l-snyder/ |
Re: The Hobbit
Seems Tolkien's family would like the films since it introduces a larger audience to the story then would otherwise discover it. I'm sure there are people that never read the book until they saw the movies & then decided to read it. I know I would never read the books otherwise. Of course, I still haven't read them but did consider it for a second.
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Re: The Hobbit
Originally Posted by resinrats
(Post 11327886)
Seems Tolkien's family would like the films since it introduces a larger audience to the story then would otherwise discover it. I'm sure there are people that never read the book until they saw the movies & then decided to read it. I know I would never read the books otherwise. Of course, I still haven't read them but did consider it for a second.
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Re: The Hobbit
Originally Posted by Kmical
(Post 11325038)
Is that what they called him after he took an arrow to his knee?
Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC
(Post 11326364)
Gimpli. Lol.
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Re: The Hobbit
https://www.facebook.com/notes/peter...51114596546558
It is only at the end of a shoot that you finally get the chance to sit down and have a look at the film you have made. Recently Fran, Phil and I did just this when we watched for the first time an early cut of the first movie - and a large chunk of the second. We were really pleased with the way the story was coming together, in particular, the strength of the characters and the cast who have brought them to life. All of which gave rise to a simple question: do we take this chance to tell more of the tale? And the answer from our perspective as the filmmakers, and as fans, was an unreserved ‘yes.' We know how much of the story of Bilbo Baggins, the Wizard Gandalf, the Dwarves of Erebor, the rise of the Necromancer, and the Battle of Dol Guldur will remain untold if we do not take this chance. The richness of the story of The Hobbit, as well as some of the related material in the appendices of The Lord of the Rings, allows us to tell the full story of the adventures of Bilbo Baggins and the part he played in the sometimes dangerous, but at all times exciting, history of Middle-earth. So, without further ado and on behalf of New Line Cinema, Warner Bros. Pictures, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Wingnut Films, and the entire cast and crew of “The Hobbit” films, I’d like to announce that two films will become three. It has been an unexpected journey indeed, and in the words of Professor Tolkien himself, "a tale that grew in the telling." Cheers, Peter J |
Re: The Hobbit
Wow. So does this mean the first film will be changed at all, or are they adding the new footage mainly to 2 and 3?
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Re: The Hobbit
First film's conclusion will be the singing of "That's What Bilbo Baggins Hates".
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