The Hobbit
06-26-10, 10:49 PM
#827
Re: The Hobbit
Yeah, both Del Toro and Jackson are good directors and make better films than 90% of what's out there at the theater every year so... I'll just wait and see what happens.
06-27-10, 01:04 AM
#830
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Re: The Hobbit
My point was even if he really isn't a very good director in the grand scheme of things and if he goes his entire career without ever making another movie that's even remotely good, he hit a homerun with The Lord of the Rings trilogy and did a tremendous job with those films...probably better than any other director out there could have done. So, since he did such a good job on those films it seems reasonable to assume that he would also do a good job on the next 2 Hobbit films as most everything about the Hobbit will be very similar to the 3 Lord of the Rings flims he's already directed.
I'm not necessarily saying this but it's possible that PJ is a one trick pony and can only direct Middle Earth films, but he's the best at making those films based on his success with The Lord of the Rings.
06-27-10, 01:22 AM
#831
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Re: The Hobbit
OK, I'm not trying to start an argument here, but your post said:
"it seems almost impossible for him to screw up The Hobbit as even if he can't direct for shit, he did a wonderful job on those 3 films."
That's what I was responding to. And I disagree, as I think Dead-Alive is a kinetic horror comedy on the level of Evil Dead 2, Heavenly Creatures is a fantastic drama with fantasy elements, and The Frighteners is a fun comedy.
"it seems almost impossible for him to screw up The Hobbit as even if he can't direct for shit, he did a wonderful job on those 3 films."
That's what I was responding to. And I disagree, as I think Dead-Alive is a kinetic horror comedy on the level of Evil Dead 2, Heavenly Creatures is a fantastic drama with fantasy elements, and The Frighteners is a fun comedy.
06-27-10, 10:20 AM
#832
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Re: The Hobbit
OK, I'm not trying to start an argument here, but your post said:
"it seems almost impossible for him to screw up The Hobbit as even if he can't direct for shit, he did a wonderful job on those 3 films."
That's what I was responding to. And I disagree, as I think Dead-Alive is a kinetic horror comedy on the level of Evil Dead 2, Heavenly Creatures is a fantastic drama with fantasy elements, and The Frighteners is a fun comedy.
"it seems almost impossible for him to screw up The Hobbit as even if he can't direct for shit, he did a wonderful job on those 3 films."
That's what I was responding to. And I disagree, as I think Dead-Alive is a kinetic horror comedy on the level of Evil Dead 2, Heavenly Creatures is a fantastic drama with fantasy elements, and The Frighteners is a fun comedy.
Not trying to slam Jackson at all even though I'm really not a fan of anything he's done other than Lord of the Rings, he definitely did a great job on those 3 films.
06-27-10, 12:07 PM
#833
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The Hobbit
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06-27-10, 12:24 PM
#834
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: The Hobbit
The terms "even if" and "even though" often get confused with one another, and "even if" sometimes gets used instead of "even though":
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http://www.linglish.net/2008/08/04/e...gh-vs-even-if/
http://www.englishforums.com/English...bklkm/post.htm
http://en.allexperts.com/q/English-S...815/though.htm
http://eltnotebook.blogspot.com/2006...en-though.html
http://www.englishforums.com/English...gpjgq/post.htm
http://www.linglish.net/2008/08/04/e...gh-vs-even-if/
http://www.englishforums.com/English...bklkm/post.htm
http://en.allexperts.com/q/English-S...815/though.htm
http://eltnotebook.blogspot.com/2006...en-though.html
06-27-10, 12:33 PM
#835
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The Hobbit
I think the confusion is that you've seen a number of his movies, and not just LOTR, so you should be able to make a personal judgment of his talents, as most people have. Also, you used a very strong negative to describe his talents, which most people wouldn't do unless they were decided. And again, the terms get confused, so although you wrote "even if," it was very possible that you meant "even though."
Nerds.
06-27-10, 12:55 PM
#838
DVD Talk Hero
06-27-10, 01:21 PM
#839
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Re: The Hobbit
I think the confusion is that you've seen a number of his movies, and not just LOTR, so you should be able to make a personal judgment of his talents, as most people have. Also, you used a very strong negative to describe his talents, which most people wouldn't do unless they were decided. And again, the terms get confused, so although you wrote "even if," it was very possible that you meant "even though."
What it comes down is I like The Lord of the Rings. Jackson did a great job on those. I don't really care for his other films but that doesn't necessarily mean they're bad films...just that I didn't care for them. In the grand scheme of things he should probably be described as a good director but in terms of directing Middle Earth flims he's great. Since he's great at directing Middle Earth films, he should be the logical choice to film the next 2 and it also seems logical that he'd not only do the best job on them but he'd have an "easier" time doing them compared to somebody else...say Del Toro, as well.
06-27-10, 07:29 PM
#843
DVD Talk Legend
06-28-10, 09:10 PM
#845
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The Hobbit
You know what's funny? I thought I was posting this in the "stars you dread dying" thread, LOL...but, since you're all curious...here's a few:
From the Mars Attacks series, this one was eventually used in an advertisement for model kit paints:
Welcome to New Jersey, either the Garden State or the Toxic Waste state, take yer pick, LOL...I used forensics textbooks for reference material, as well as a personal experience with a close family member dying badly (skin tones, cataract, etc).
I did this Ceasar from POTA as a commisioned piece, and recently, the original buyer sold it on eBay for twice what he paid me (!!!):
Oh, and everything is hand-painted in the above pieces, no airbrush (I use them, several different ones actually, but I prefer a brush in my hand). I've won awards in different art contests from NYC to Vegas with the hundreds of figures/kits I've built and painted, in formats from styrene to vinyl to resin to porcelain, and custom pieces out of custom materials. In fact, I have an entire cardboard box full of framed awards and trophies/plaques, ribbons/medals, etc...
I once studied under Greg Nicotero. Just sayin'.
I'm open to your opinions!
From the Mars Attacks series, this one was eventually used in an advertisement for model kit paints:
Welcome to New Jersey, either the Garden State or the Toxic Waste state, take yer pick, LOL...I used forensics textbooks for reference material, as well as a personal experience with a close family member dying badly (skin tones, cataract, etc).
I did this Ceasar from POTA as a commisioned piece, and recently, the original buyer sold it on eBay for twice what he paid me (!!!):
Oh, and everything is hand-painted in the above pieces, no airbrush (I use them, several different ones actually, but I prefer a brush in my hand). I've won awards in different art contests from NYC to Vegas with the hundreds of figures/kits I've built and painted, in formats from styrene to vinyl to resin to porcelain, and custom pieces out of custom materials. In fact, I have an entire cardboard box full of framed awards and trophies/plaques, ribbons/medals, etc...
I once studied under Greg Nicotero. Just sayin'.
I'm open to your opinions!
Especially the Mars Attacks piece.
06-29-10, 04:56 PM
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