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Old 06-29-07, 05:24 PM
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Bruce Willis is the man but not a box office champ.
Agree! I like Willis, but he's never been a huge box office draw. Certainly made some successful films.
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FF2 is doing so badly now, that i think that there is a good chance there won't be a 3rd one, at least not with the same budget. According to IMDB it cost $130 mm to make, according to boxofficemojo it's done $164 mm to date worldwide(the first one did $330 mm worldwide, this will be lucky to break $200 imo). But the cost doesn't include prints and advertising, and the box office includes the theatre's take. I would guess Fox maybe makes some money on it when all is said and done, but with a 40% dropoff from the first one, chances are that they are going to think long and hard before doing a 3rd one...
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FF2 is doing so badly now, that i think that there is a good chance there won't be a 3rd one, at least not with the same budget. According to IMDB it cost $130 mm to make, according to boxofficemojo it's done $164 mm to date worldwide(the first one did $330 mm worldwide, this will be lucky to break $200 imo). But the cost doesn't include prints and advertising, and the box office includes the theatre's take. I would guess Fox maybe makes some money on it when all is said and done, but with a 40% dropoff from the first one, chances are that they are going to think long and hard before doing a 3rd one...
Has it been released in the other major markets outside of North America?
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yes it has
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Originally Posted by misterchimpy
FF2 is doing so badly now, that i think that there is a good chance there won't be a 3rd one, at least not with the same budget. According to IMDB it cost $130 mm to make, according to boxofficemojo it's done $164 mm to date worldwide(the first one did $330 mm worldwide, this will be lucky to break $200 imo). But the cost doesn't include prints and advertising, and the box office includes the theatre's take. I would guess Fox maybe makes some money on it when all is said and done, but with a 40% dropoff from the first one, chances are that they are going to think long and hard before doing a 3rd one...
I would imagine the they must have spent at least $75 million on advertising alone. This movie was EVERYWHERE the weeks leading up to its release.
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Actually, with the movie still pulling in nearly $2 million a day during the week and having just had a $20 million dollar weekend in its second weekend, 20th Century Fox is probably willing to wait until it actually has stopped making significant money before declaring it a success or failure. It's still far from "doing so badly now".
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Actually, with the movie still pulling in nearly $2 million a day during the week and having just had a $20 million dollar weekend in its second weekend, 20th Century Fox is probably willing to wait until it actually has stopped making significant money before declaring it a success or failure. It's still far from "doing so badly now".
I disagree, the competition is far far worse for them this weekend, and then when Transformers opens in a few days, FF2 will essentially be gone from the theatres. If you don't believe me, look at your local theater listing on fandango, it will be down to a few showings per day by the 4th.

Comparison chart to other non spidey Marvel movies, at this point, it may barely beat Ghost Rider domestically.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdow...elmidrange.htm
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Originally Posted by Super X
Actually, with the movie still pulling in nearly $2 million a day during the week and having just had a $20 million dollar weekend in its second weekend, 20th Century Fox is probably willing to wait until it actually has stopped making significant money before declaring it a success or failure. It's still far from "doing so badly now".
yes, those are pathetic numbers. It's only been out 2 weeks and it's already down to earning $2 million days, while playing at 1,000 more theaters than Knocked Up, which has also been out 2 weeks longer. FF2 opened at $58 million and had a gigantic 65% drop. It's toast.
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Originally Posted by JPRaup
Some of you guys are delusional, thinking Rats can beat Die Hard
What.
Old 06-30-07, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Sierra Disc
(This space reserved to make a snarky comment to the OP when box office figures come out Sunday)

I think he may be the only guy in the U.S. thinking Die Hard will be Rats. I don't even think Bruce Willis believes it
Old 06-30-07, 10:25 AM
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FRIDAY'S NUMBERS:

1. RATATOUILLE BVI 3,940 16,395,000 4,161 n/a 16,395,000
2. LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD 20TH CENTURY FOX 3,175 10,495,000 3,306 n/a 25,507,000
3. EVAN ALMIGHTY UNIVERSAL 3,602 5,023,000 1,395 -55% 50,535,125
4. 1408 MGM 2,678 3,676,000 1,373 -52% 33,457,034
5. FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER 20TH CENTURY FOX 3,963 2,695,000 680 -55% 108,547,632
6. KNOCKED UP UNIVERSAL 2,972 2,246,000 756 -33% 117,231,335
7. OCEAN'S THIRTEEN WARNER BROS. 3,450 1,887,000 547 -46% 97,938,028
8. PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: AT WORLD'S END BVI 2,802 1,452,000 518 -28% 292,248,588
9. SICKO LIONS GATE 441 1,368,000 3,102 5,600% 1,368,000
10. EVENING FOCUS FEATURES 977 1,212,000 1,241 n/a 1,212,000

I'm sure Ratatouille will get a significant bump today as most animated films do. Looks like Die Hard will pull in near $30 million, which isn't bad at all. Cars opened to $19.7 million on its first Friday at about the same number of theaters.

FF2 and Knocked Up are neck and neck, even with FF2 playing at 1,000 more theaters.

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Looks like the Rat is going to have legs, lots of them... The reviews are just out of site for this movie.
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Originally Posted by Lateralus
Looks like the Rat is going to have legs, lots of them... The reviews are just out of site for this movie.
RT has it at 6/114 for 95% fresh.
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Originally Posted by JPRaup
Some of you guys are delusional, thinking Rats can beat Die Hard
Old 06-30-07, 12:25 PM
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I guess you shouldn't underestimate the loads of money americans will spend on shit films.
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What are you referencing there chris_sc77?
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I'm dissapointed that FF2 isn't doing better, since its a fun film.

I'll probably wait a week or so before catching Rats. I'm not particularly excited about it, but hey, its Pixar
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Originally Posted by chris_sc77
I guess you shouldn't underestimate the loads of money americans will spend on shit films.
Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself now.
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Originally Posted by Drop
What are you referencing there chris_sc77?
Does it matter? He probably hasn't seen whatever he's talking about.
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Originally Posted by chris_sc77
Rat will not make more than 35 million this weekend.
Old 06-30-07, 01:43 PM
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I love how everyone's an expert in these threads. Speaking as if they're the only ones who could possibly know.

Oh, btw I casually threw out a 50/30 million wknd number for rats and DH....and what do ya know, looks like I'm right on. (again)
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Originally Posted by chris_sc77
I guess you shouldn't underestimate the loads of money americans will spend on shit films.
A critical hit with A-level word of mouth is a piece of shit?

I'd bet $10,000 you haven't even seen Ratatouille. It's one of the best films of the entire summer. Certainly beats the suffering some of us encountered while viewing Spiderman 3.

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1. RATATOUILLE BVI 3,940 16,395,000 4,161 n/a 16,395,000
2. LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD 20TH CENTURY FOX 3,175 10,495,000
That was just far too easy a prediction.
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NO havnt seen ratatouille, die hard, evan almighty or fantasric four. I dont have a desire to see them at all. They all look encredibly unappealing to be and cant really see what some people are enjoying about them but thats fine. Maybe ive become too snobby when it comes to this or I'm still bitter about the failure of Perfume, Grindhouse, and Zodiac.
It just seems like a normal movie cant make money unless it has animated talking animals, superheroes or dumbed down PG-13 action.
I'm just amazed at how these films make all this money. And the more they continue to make money it seems like the more these kind of movies will be made and less of the kind I want to see like Perfume, Grindhouse or Zodiac..
So theres my piece.

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And the more they continue to make money it seems like the more these kind of movies will be made and less of the kind I want to see like Perfume, Grindhouse or Zodiac..
So theres my piece.
Oh, so you're one of those hardcore type of moviegoers. Hate to tell you this, but the vast majority of folks just aren't into that kind of stuff. And what do you consider a normal film?


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