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Old 06-16-07, 04:55 AM
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The Crow

What's everyones opinion on this?

I only managed to see it like a month ago, but it's already my favourite film. I've never seen a film where a soundtrack fits so perfectly. Just waiting on my soundtrack now from Amazon

From the opening scene (which is pretty intense) I knew it wasn't gonna disappoint and it didn't.

They should really make a remake of this film, I know they made like 3 more versions (only liked number 2), but a remake to the story originally in number 1.

Anyway, awesome film.
Old 06-16-07, 05:37 AM
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I've always liked the original.
Old 06-16-07, 07:03 AM
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I'm not sure why you think they should 'remake' this film. The original is perfect as it is. Hollywood should stay away from remaking movies that were already done right the first time unless they actually have something new to say or a new twist to put on the idea.

Unfortunately, the best thing that could have happened to this film when it came out was the 'mystery' surrounding Brandon Lee's death. Although it's a great movie, I think it would have come and gone relatively unnoticed if that hadn't made headlines.

I've watched the first sequel and part of the one with David Boreanz in it...huge mistakes on my part, and I'm sure the other sequels aren't any better....best bet is to stay away from them.

I've still got my crow soundtrack mainly for The Cure's "Burn" which I don't think is available anywhere except on their box set and NIN's cover of "Dead Souls" which I don't think is available anywhere else...great stuff!

Michael
Old 06-16-07, 07:22 AM
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As for my personal tastes: I like comics above all forms of story telling (movies second) and this movie was the first to have a roof running scene that merited the term roof running. Since then, we've had District 13 and Casino Royale (don't Jackie Chan me youse guys!), but I have a special place in my heart for this movie. It resides cozily in my left ventricle next to The Rocketeer.
Old 06-16-07, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by fiver
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I'm not sure why you think they should 'remake' this film. The original is perfect as it is. Hollywood should stay away from remaking movies that were already done right the first time unless they actually have something new to say or a new twist to put on the idea.

Unfortunately, the best thing that could have happened to this film when it came out was the 'mystery' surrounding Brandon Lee's death. Although it's a great movie, I think it would have come and gone relatively unnoticed if that hadn't made headlines.

I've watched the first sequel and part of the one with David Boreanz in it...huge mistakes on my part, and I'm sure the other sequels aren't any better....best bet is to stay away from them.

I've still got my crow soundtrack mainly for The Cure's "Burn" which I don't think is available anywhere except on their box set and NIN's cover of "Dead Souls" which I don't think is available anywhere else...great stuff!

Michael
I don't want them to remake it per say, just continue the story sort of.

Kinda like what they did with Batman Begins.

Watching the first left me wanting more, but all you get is The Crow 2, 3 and 4 which all pale in comparison to the first.
Old 06-16-07, 10:12 AM
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I remember wanting this movie when it was released on VHS. My grandpa bought it for me and told me it cost him $100, which I believed at the time. It is a very good movie.

As for your crazy remake/continuation/reboot idea, I think the TV series is about Eric. I have never seen it though.
Old 06-16-07, 10:46 AM
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I loved The Crow when I saw it in theaters in high school. It's been a while since I last watched it but I still think it's an amazingly bleak film. It's actually kind of depressing watching it not only because of the story and look of the film, but knowing that Lee died making it. Part 2 has the distinction of being the only film I've ever walked out of in theaters (I left and went to watch Tin Cup, which was much more entertaining). Never seen anything in the canon after that since it all looked pretty blase.
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Originally Posted by BlueCC
I remember wanting this movie when it was released on VHS. My grandpa bought it for me and told me it cost him $100, which I believed at the time. It is a very good movie.

As for your crazy remake/continuation/reboot idea, I think the TV series is about Eric. I have never seen it though.
It might have actually cost that much for a little while. Wasn't there a time where tapes were released only to video stores, only available for purchase at outrageous prices like this?

I don't really know. I was really too young at the time.

Still, I liked the original quite a bit. I was obsessed with it in junior high and high school, but not so much anymore. The sequels are all pretty bad; however, I think the cinematography in the second film is amazing.

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Old 06-16-07, 11:44 AM
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You can't remake or reboot that franchise , for one reason. The man who portrayed The Crow is dead. Let's face it, Brandon Lee was amazing in that role.

As for the question about tapes to video stores only, yeah. I remember when a VHS tape of T2 was $100 bucks.
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Alex Proyas is damn good at what he does, I wish he'd get inspired to do another dark flick that isn't I, Robot. I love The Crow, and Dark City is one of my favorite movies.

I remember wanting this movie when it was released on VHS. My grandpa bought it for me and told me it cost him $100, which I believed at the time. It is a very good movie.
Back when Rental Phasing was around (on VHS, it may still be for all I know), they would jack up the price of VHS movies to $90 - $120 to encourage renting. Then after 6 months, the price would drop to the consumer friend $10 - $20 range. Blockbuster was a huge supporter of them doing this for DVDs (for obvious reasons) and is part of the reason why BBV has gone down the drains in the last 5 years or so -- Why support rental phasing when they could just sell directly to the consumer and sell millions of copies in a week.

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Old 06-16-07, 12:05 PM
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I've been hording an HD broadcast of this from Starz HD - one of my all time favorites. I really hope it hits Blu-Ray soon.
Old 06-16-07, 12:16 PM
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One of my favorites since I saw it in the theater years ago. The second one is decent too IMO (mainly as it's very similar to the first, perhaps too similar). The third one is a huge step down, but still watchable. The fourth one is god awful and one of the worst films I've seen in recent years.
Old 06-16-07, 12:39 PM
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I've read there was a really detailed doc. on the Crow which was never released because of a feud between Proyas and the producers. They were trying to get it on the last 2 disc release.
Old 06-16-07, 01:31 PM
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Saw this again on demand the other day. I really love this movie. Its dark and bleak with a perfect sound track. This is one of those movies I should probably get on dvd.
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It was supposed to be released on BD on the 26th June, but it's not anymore.

Shame really.
Old 06-16-07, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mrhan
I've read there was a really detailed doc. on the Crow which was never released because of a feud between Proyas and the producers. They were trying to get it on the last 2 disc release.
And a commentary. Miramax chose the producer over Proyas.
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I fucking hate it.
Old 06-16-07, 03:22 PM
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I fucking hate it.
Well, you make a good argument too.
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I LOVE this movie.
I like the second one too, although it seems like i'm the only one who does.
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I thought this movie was only "alright". It was really dark and depressing. Nothing really stood out cinematography, performances, sets, or lighting. There wasn't much originality in the killings. While I always support vengeance films, this film just really had nothing unique going for it, except for the scene where the crow symbol is lit up in fire.

I liked the film enough but I don't think it's as great as some make it out to be.
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Originally Posted by majorjoe23
Well, you make a good argument too.
What about the people saying "I love The Crow" without going into elaborate detail? Does that also bother you? The question asked was "what's everyones opinion on this?" I gave my opinion. I didn't want to elaborate, I simply wanted to express that I hate it. But I should have known that Crow fanboys wouldn't let me get away with that. So here you go:

1. He's invincible. How is that interesting?? No weaknesses or vulnerabilities. No suspense. Just some invincible, undead douche bag in goth clothes and clown makeup starting fights that he can't lose. Stupid.

2. The cast and characters. There aren't any likable characters in the movie, and the cast sucks. Michael Wincott and the other bad guys are just terrible.

3. The dialog. Like everything else about this movie, the dialog is cheesy and juvenile. "Can't rain all the time?" :::wince:::

4. The style. Style is all this movie has, and the style is fucking LAME! The story and characters are paper-thin, and the characters are wildly unlikeable anyway. Mopey, melodramatic Eric Draven has returned to kill some silly, sociopathic bad guys -- which he can't fail at because he's invincible. The dialog is laughable. So with nothing else to make this movie interesting, The Crow relies on its style. And what is the style? Darkness, rain, black clothing, Trent Reznor covering Joy Division, and fucking mime makeup. Wow.

Now why don't you explain why you like the movie, wiseass.
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Now tell us how you really feel. Admit it, you loved it!
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<----------{{{ Loved the movie ( obviously )

I thought Brandon did a wonderful job in it. If he had lived it would have made him a star. I dont know if the movie would have made as much money because I think most people went to see due to Brandon's untimely death.

From what I understand the movie was very faithful to the comic so to the poster who hated it blame James O'Barr. I for one loved the darkness of it, the music and the twisted humor.
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It's an amazing film. Unfortunately this franchise has become laughable. God I hate Hollywood.
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I love this movie because Brannon Lee was and should always be rembemered as class-act.I miss him and dad alot RIP to the Lee's,may you shine forever a light of true widsom in are darkest days.

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