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Hoo, boy...

How about you just say this:
"When these movies show that the cross and other holy artifacts no longer work on vampires (i.e. pure evil), they're inherently moving away from the philosophy that Christianity is an effective way to combat the problems and evils we see in the world."

I doubt many more people would agree with you, but at least it would make more sense than something about today's kids idolizing vampires because vampire movies no longer feature God, so now they're becoming goth and evil and they didn't used to be that way, you know?

Seriously though, if there's a 'religious' reason for removing crosses from vampire lore, I'd assume it's to avoid offending other religions. Seeing as how it's all make-believe anyway, I don't see why people of one religion would oppose the stories being made a little more inclusive. I doubt many Christians are really claiming vampire stories as a vital part of their religious heritage.

And as for your contention that today's vampire movies tend to feature more morally ambiguous vampires, that can be said of just about any type of film/fiction/etc. of contemporary times. A lot of stories of all varieties feature moral gray areas, where the good guys aren't saints and the bad guys aren't pure evil. It typically makes for a more interesting story. Though this doesn't really apply to 30 Days of Night, as the vampires are pretty much pure fuckin' evil in it.

In response to your questions:

rotfl Perfect!

The movie was fairly enjoyable. Good, not great. There have been far better vampire movies, and there have been far worse vampire movies.

I thought the vampires themselves were pretty cool, and Danny Huston rocked as the leader. Too bad none of the humans were half as interesting.

Also, I agree that we need to get back to vampires the way they are presented in the Bible.

I blame shitty parents. Leave the vampires alone!

Nicely done!

'dragged' is an understatement - I was trying NOT to fall asleep. Also I can't stand the spastic editing everytime one or all the vampires attacked - it worked for 28 Days/Weeks later, here it didn't work.

i liked it...

i liked Danny as the alpha vampire... another good performance for him...

even in small roles like 'Children of Men' he's consistently good...

i like his work...

'30 Days' was good for recent horror films...

a cool take on vampires...

And why wasn't their any mention of garlic in this movie? It's like hollywood has some sort of agenda against garlic or something. Besides that, I thought it was pretty entertaining. Probably won't buy it though.

Saw this yesterday with my girlfriend.

I really enjoyed it. I am a big fan of the first 30 Days book and I liked what they did to make it more of a 'movie'.

As to the reason why there wasn't any garlic, if I remember right garlic isn't even mentioned in the first 30 Days book either. I sort of liked that the survivors of Barrow didn't have many options in disposing of the vampires. It makes things a lot more interesting.

What can destroy these vampires?
It's not a stupid question when up until the 90's the cross or a stake or sun light could destroy vampires. Since the 90's we have had vampires that fall in love(BRAM STROKERS DRACULA), vampires that are sensitive (INTERVIEW WITH A VAMPIRE), vampires that are heros (BLADE). And of course the christian factor has been removed and it's no longer vampires are evil anymore.

What. The. Fuck?

Welcome to the nonsensical postings of wm lopez. Enjoy the show.

When the lady says "Oh G-d" and the vampire says "No G-d" ... brr that gave me chills.

while it doesn't take 'Columbo' to figure out mainstream films from hollywood have been anti-religion and anti-Christian for a few decades...

i would say the change in vampire lore in films is the least relevant example of it...

thinking vampire films are in any way a key to this?...

to recruit children with a few vampire movies or something?...

and getting all analytical about it?...

allllrighty then...

nice...

It gave me a here we go again another liberal anti-christain vampire movie.

I don't care what other people say, I find your posts hilarious! Keep up the good work!

Are you trying to be the Groucho of the movie talk forum?

Key word being "trying".

I really liked this movie, one of the scariest I have seen in a while. The Vampires look and sound scary. I loved the feeling and mood the movie created. With them being stuck in the attic, not being able to make any noise, hearing people screaming etc. I really liked the way the vampires looked and spoke in this flick. Movie went down hill at the end and during the one gruesome scene at the end but still a really good horror flick. Started out so-so but quickly gained suspense.

Just saw it so it's fresh in my mind. I do agree with most of the observations made, though I didn't find it dragging at all. One of the better vampires movies to come out in a long while (certainly better than all the BLADE sequels). Loved the over-head view of the town being ransacked by the vampires. A few things nagged me, like the jumps in time. I agree with what a previous poster said, they lasted that long doing what they were doing, why not stick around? I understand not staying in the attic. But they could've easily stayed in the police station. Why did they need to run to that warehouse?

Plenty violent (+), great cinematography (+), anti-Christian vampires (+++).

damm decent vampire film. Cinematography was good and the kills were great. I didn't like Melissa George. Mark walberg would have been better than Josh Harnett

good FX

Just saw this flick yesterday and really liked it. Very atmospheric, a great use of color. I just wish I could have seen it on a bigger TV (watched it at a friends...she had a 15" LCD...)

Oh, and as for the whole 'anti-christian' Vampire thing...give me a fuckin' break.

= J

[art] There aren't enough guys on guys in vampire movies [/art]

Are you two related?

Finally saw this (via Netflix), and watched it on my huge TV. Yes, it's a great looking flick (style, colors, etc), but I was bored to death. Really wanted to like it more.

I disagree but it would be a good thing if it were true