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bunkaroo 10-20-07 12:16 AM

Just got back from this and was thoroughly entertained.

I'm not a huge horror fan at all, but I really liked the way this movie was made. I also have no familiarity with any of the source material, so I have no predisposition.

The mood and sense of dread and danger are great, and you never really feel like you can relax. Also loved the look and the color. The blood against the snow was really cool.

This should be a kickass Blu-Ray when it comes out (Sony release I think).

FantasticVSDoom 10-20-07 12:40 AM

Enjoyed this one alot, and one of the better horror movies to come out in a while... Like I said before, Ive read 30 Days, but dont remember it at all do I dont know how to relate it back to the TPB. Very creepy feel and tense. Great gore and great premise. Sure some pretty big cliches and plot idiocy by a number of the characters, but not so bad to make me not enjoy the film.

wm lopez 10-20-07 11:05 AM

When I first saw the trailers I was excited , but I thought after hearing the part where the vampire says "NO GOD". Is this another one of those liberal Hollywood vampire movies that throws out the cross as a weapon just to be anti-christain.

islandclaws 10-20-07 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by caiman
Just got back from seeing this. It was a decent vampire movie, but I was a little bit under whelmed overall. But then, I had very high expectations. Something about the vibe I got from the trailers made me think I'd be getting something that was extremely unique, new and different. Unfortunately I was a little letdown in those regards. While the movie is a notch above the average horror movie, it was still fairly conventional in a lot of ways.

Some things I disliked:

-lots of cliche situations, characters, and plot developments. The hurt relationship between Hartnett and the female lead felt shallow, uninteresting and tacked on. Most of the major events were predictable.

-The use of the "shaky" effect was obtrusive and irritating. It was the same thing we saw a lot of in 28 Weeks Later. It's that odd, undercranked effect we've been seeing a lot of lately. Its purpose, I suppose, is to increase intensity. What it really does is disorient the viewer.

-The progression of time hurt the feeling of tension and danger for the characters. Without giving too much away, at one point the survivors are holed up in a building, and then we see on the screen "Day 7," and then later, "Day 18." When I saw that, I thought to myself, well, they've lasted 18 days doing what they're doing, why not just hang out another 12 or so?

Some things I liked:

-The vampires were pretty awesome. They were very menacing and creepy. These are the first vampires I've seen that have an entire mouth of sharpened teeth. That was pretty unique.

-The movie was dead serious, which is refreshing to me after so many horror movies lately have fallen victim to the overuse of comic relief. Hatchet is the most recent offender. The underplayed tense music added to the air of seriousness as well.

-The gore was spectacular, and the deaths, especially one in particular near the end, were very brutal. Though they would have looked better if there were less quick cuts and use of the shaky effect.

-Though I wasn't overall impressed with the direction and editing, there were a handful of amazing birds-eye-view shots of the ensuing vampire carnage as they're overtaking the town. Pretty cool.

Overall I'd recommend this movie for fans of gore, vampires, or horror in general. Just be sure to keep your expectations to a realistic level and you'll be entertained.

This pretty much summed up exactly how I felt. I thought it was a very well-shot, gory, fresh take on the vamp mythos. Some decisions by the characters left me scratching my head (the constant movement one of them), the timeline was a little off-putting and the end fight ended a little too quick/convenient for me, but I still thought it was a lot better than most horror/vampire flicks to come out in recent years. I thought it was funny that even though they said these vamps weren't Eurotrash they sure dressed like it, especially the lead vamp who looked like a former 80's music video star.

maingon 10-20-07 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by wm lopez
When I first saw the trailers I was excited , but I thought after hearing the part where the vampire says "NO GOD". Is this another one of those liberal Hollywood vampire movies that throws out the cross as a weapon just to be anti-christain.


what? liberal?, anti cristian? its a vampire movie, what dont vampires like in any vampire flick or story? the cross? church, holy devices etc. Come on man


Just like people on the far right say people who hate America are gonna love Bourne Ultimatum I hate hearing people on the far right. Sometimes the far right take politics into everything. its a freaking vampire flick. you just sound stupid saying stuff like that

slop101 10-20-07 02:04 PM

There were some fun things to look at, like the vampires and the gore. But I just couldn't get past the shitty, shitty script.

slop101 10-20-07 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by wm lopez
When I first saw the trailers I was excited , but I thought after hearing the part where the vampire says "NO GOD". Is this another one of those liberal Hollywood vampire movies that throws out the cross as a weapon just to be anti-christain.

Are you fucking kidding me with this shit? First off, there are plenty of "liberal" Christians (myself included). But I guess that would depend on your definition of liberal, which I'm guessing for you means child-raping whore-mongers. And, oh yeah, only liberals come out of Hollywood, as if we've never had a major Hollywood actor as a conservative president or governor. Nor do we have a republican candidate now who's an actor....

Take your misinformed propaganda bullshit to the political forums, where you'll be taken apart better than I'm able to do.

majorjoe23 10-20-07 02:48 PM

I agree with WM Lopez, I'm tired of Hollywood pushing it's liberal vampire agenda on us.

nickdawgy 10-20-07 04:46 PM

I will not see this movie for it's liberal...anti..christ...views

oooh vampires...

*runs out the door to buy a ticket*

wm lopez 10-20-07 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by maingon
what? liberal?, anti cristian? its a vampire movie, what dont vampires like in any vampire flick or story? the cross? church, holy devices etc. Come on man


Just like people on the far right say people who hate America are gonna love Bourne Ultimatum I hate hearing people on the far right. Sometimes the far right take politics into everything. its a freaking vampire flick. you just sound stupid saying stuff like that

I'm not the one who made Judas from the bible as DRACULA in the last DRACULA movie. And if I remember correctly the BLADE vampire movies removed the whole cross part. And vampire movies from 1990's on made the vampire seem o.k. instead of pure evil which is on the same level as Satan.
So is the cross done away with in this new vampire movie?

LivingINClip 10-20-07 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by wm lopez
I'm not the one who made Judas from the bible as DRACULA in the last DRACULA movie. And if I remember correctly the BLADE vampire movies removed the whole cross part. And vampire movies from 1990's on made the vampire seem o.k. instead of pure evil which is on the same level as Satan.
So is the cross done away with in this new vampire movie?

Huh?

Alex, I'll take "what the hell did he just say for $1,000 please".

majorjoe23 10-20-07 05:17 PM

Vampires myths pre-date Christ, therefore it stands to reason that vampires wouldn't be afraid of the cross.

There are two schools of thought in fiction. There are vampires that are afraid of crosses because they're demons and there are vampires that don't react to religious items because they are just another flesh and blood creature. 30 Days of Night seems to feature the latter.

But either way, they're just monsters and it's silly to try to inject a liberal bias into everything. Sometimes a vampire is just a vampire.

Rammsteinfan 10-20-07 06:08 PM

Just saw it and it wasnt bad. It had good atmosphere and look to the creatures but the story could have been more and a little less with the shreiking. Wish there was more backstory given to everyone including the baddies in the film.

Robert 10-20-07 06:14 PM

The casting of Melissa George completely ruined the movie for me. I just could not get past her enormous buck teeth and god-awful American accent. Her native australian accent was always slipping through and it drove me nuts.

celmendo 10-20-07 07:31 PM

mostly left with "meh"
 
I didn't hate it by any means and didn't think it sucked but was completely unmoved. Not enough story to care about anyone. Some "perceived" changes to the vampire mythos but most of the usual stuff is there in gory washed out packaging. I say "perceived" because there wasn't any real explanation or story to go on.

Robert, Melissa George bugged me for a while too but I got over it. funny
The main vampire looking like Neil Tennant having a really bad day was what took me out of the film more. and wipe your damn mouths. Yeah, they're animalistic but even wild animals clean themselves. pointless and stupid

The only thing I could really say I "liked" was that there never was the moment in most of the vamp movies where people stop and say "so they're vampires huh? So what do we know about vampires? How do we kill them?" blah, blah
Everyone could see a duck was a duck and went with it

Brent L 10-21-07 12:01 AM

I saw this after GBG earlier tonight. I don't know anything about the source material, but I really enjoyed the film for what it was. I loved the presentation of the vampires, just flat out ruthless killers. I also really enjoyed the overall look of the film, and especially the overhead scrolling shot showing the mass killing by the vampires all across the town.

My only minor complaint is that there were times when the film really felt rushed, like time was going by in the movie world far too fast. I know that it had to cover an entire month, but still. It's not a major complaint, but it's something I guess. Also, if I have to mention anything else, I guess I would have liked a bit more backstory on everyone - both the people and the vampires. Again though, that's not a major complaint for a flick like this.

I highly recommend it for sure. If you are a fan of vampires, I'm not sure how you can't find something to like about it.

d2cheer 10-21-07 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Brent L
I saw this after GBG earlier tonight. I don't know anything about the source material, but I really enjoyed the film for what it was. I loved the presentation of the vampires, just flat out ruthless killers. I also really enjoyed the overall look of the film, and especially the overhead scrolling shot showing the mass killing by the vampires all across the town.

My only minor complaint is that there were times when the film really felt rushed, like time was going by in the movie world far too fast. I know that it had to cover an entire month, but still. It's not a major complaint, but it's something I guess. Also, if I have to mention anything else, I guess I would have liked a bit more backstory on everyone - both the people and the vampires. Again though, that's not a major complaint for a flick like this.

I highly recommend it for sure. If you are a fan of vampires, I'm not sure how you can't find something to like about it.

Looks like we saw the same flicks this weekend. Agree with the above comments. I thought this rocked!!

RichC2 10-21-07 10:47 AM

The pacing was off, and the middle dragged, but it was entertaining.

The religious comment "No God" was made as humor, or at least, I found it humorous.
Spoiler:
woman asks "Please God!", the vampire waits, looks around for a second, grins slightly and says "No God." just before killing her.



It was a lot like 28 Days Later, or The Diary of Anne Frank with Vampires.

duluthdemon 10-21-07 12:19 PM

I did not care for the movie, and a plague on the morons that run Coming Soon for branding David Slade as "the next Hitchcock."

Hitch would never use shaky-cam or Josh Hartnett. Or, for that matter, make crap like "30 Days" or "Hard Candy."

Brack 10-21-07 03:22 PM

Hard Candy crap? Ellen Page alone made that movie special. She's gonna win an Oscar someday.

Anway, 30DoN was pretty okay, but nothing that we haven't seen before in a vampire movie.

Kudama 10-21-07 05:41 PM

I thought it was awesome.

The monsters were like Daryll the Wendigo from B.P.R.D.
If you mate a human, cat, vampire, shark and Romanian that's what you get. Plus a never dying experience point count. These were awesome monsters. Good human characters too. If I had to equate it to, say 28 Weeks Later, 28 Weeks was only better because of the acting. The scripts are comparable.

I'm buying the DVD.

kilcher 10-22-07 12:59 AM

I liked it. One thing I had a problem with at the end, maybe someone can explain it to me...

Spoiler:
Hartnett's character injected himself with the vampire's blood to save his wife and the little girl who were trapped under the SUV. There were too many vampires to take them on as is and the streets were filling with oil/fire. Right? Well, at the end, when the sun comes up and the fight scene is over there's no fire anywhere near the SUV. Seems to me Hartnett's character could have just waited another 10 minutes for the sun to come up.


The only thing I can think of that makes any sense is...

Spoiler:
They kind of made a big deal out of no one knowing the vampires were ever there. Which would have been true had Hartnett's character not become one. So maybe part of his sacrifice was being able to (possibly) prove that they exhisted.

starseed1981 10-22-07 10:35 AM

I liked, but no enough to own it.

wm lopez 10-22-07 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by majorjoe23
Vampires myths pre-date Christ, therefore it stands to reason that vampires wouldn't be afraid of the cross.

There are two schools of thought in fiction. There are vampires that are afraid of crosses because they're demons and there are vampires that don't react to religious items because they are just another flesh and blood creature. 30 Days of Night seems to feature the latter.

But either way, they're just monsters and it's silly to try to inject a liberal bias into everything. Sometimes a vampire is just a vampire.

There is an agenda in Hollywood and that is to bash christainity.
So by removing what was around in many Hollywood vampire movies for decades up until the 90's. It's sending the message that evil is o.k. to today's youth. I remember when goth was just an underground thing that started in the early 1980's. Today highschoolers live that culture and many get there ideas from today's vampire movies. Would they adopt these values if they showed that vampires were anti-god? All I know is kids before 1990 didn't act the way they do today. And today's kids watch a lot of movies.

majorjoe23 10-22-07 01:57 PM

Again, this is silly. If kids are adopting their values from vampire movies, their problem is stupidity, not a lack of Christianity.

Kids have always acted the way they do now. Kids are dumb. That's why they're kids. Showing a vampire recoiling from a cross isn't going to make kids any better.


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