Saw Hostel 2
06-03-07, 07:44 AM
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I saw the workprint, and while I thought it was passable (if a little too gratuitous for my taste...the aforementioned clip that appeared on wwtdd was difficult to watch), this sequel seemed pointless. When I see sequels, I want to see characters or themes further explored. Not much was further explored in this. As someone else mentioned, this was more a loose remake than a true sequel. I guess it showed us a little more of the business side of the hostel/"meat-packing plant". I saw a trailer and they're selling this as the film with "the most shocking ending in horror film history," or something like that. I guess they've added a new ending or something because I sure as hell didn't see that one.
06-05-07, 01:44 AM
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I got to see this earlier today at a screening with Eli Roth. He did a Q&A after the movie, did some signing for anyone interested, and seemed like a really nice guy. He mentioned the workprint that was released and seemed pretty upset about it, so for all you who watched that version shame on you.
As for the movie itself, I thought it was about on par with the first Hostel. There was less of an introduction in this one which I think was part of the problem with the first and that made this one move by much quicker. Overall though I think it was a pretty solid movie and i think anyone that enjoyed the first should like this one about the same.
As for the movie itself, I thought it was about on par with the first Hostel. There was less of an introduction in this one which I think was part of the problem with the first and that made this one move by much quicker. Overall though I think it was a pretty solid movie and i think anyone that enjoyed the first should like this one about the same.
06-05-07, 04:33 AM
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I'd be very interested to hear something more in depth about his thoughts on the workprint being released...what exactly did he say? I'd be pissed as well. You work on a film for a long time just to have it leak onto the net 2 weeks before release.
06-06-07, 12:40 AM
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I really want to know if the finished version is different than the work print. Because the work print is crap. Terrible movie... Basically it's hostel 1 without good looking women and minus the humor... So it's kinda like getting coal in your stocking at Christmas. I loved part 1 and consider it in my top 50 greatest horror flicks. This would go at the bottom with The Grude, The Wickerman remake, The Ring 2... We'll maybe not as bad as The Ring 2, but nothing could be that bad.
1. The lead girls cannot act
2. They aren't attractive, neither is really anyone else
3. Only one gets nude and it's the ugliest one... she's almost retard ugly, sorry but it's true.
4. No humor
5. Characters are flat and boring
6. Torture Scenes aren't interesting like the first
7. No emotion. I really cared less who died. I was rooting for people in the first one, and I didn't care in this one.
8. Seemed allot longer then it was
9. Character change at the end is beyond hilarious and unbelievable due to horrible acting.
1. The lead girls cannot act
2. They aren't attractive, neither is really anyone else
3. Only one gets nude and it's the ugliest one... she's almost retard ugly, sorry but it's true.
4. No humor
5. Characters are flat and boring
6. Torture Scenes aren't interesting like the first
7. No emotion. I really cared less who died. I was rooting for people in the first one, and I didn't care in this one.
8. Seemed allot longer then it was
9. Character change at the end is beyond hilarious and unbelievable due to horrible acting.
06-06-07, 11:57 PM
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Eli Roth is a tool
um.. not work safe.
http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/06/04/...mote-hostel-2/
um.. not work safe.
http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/06/04/...mote-hostel-2/
Eli Roth Poses “Nude” To Promote Hostel 2
Posted on Monday, June 4th, 2007 at 1:02 pm by: Peter Sciretta
Eli Roth Nude SMALLJeeez, what won’t Eli Roth do to promote Hostel: Part II!? When I heard that horror director Eli Roth had posed nude for a double page spread in an upcoming photo book, I was shocked. But when I saw the photo, I laughed out loud.
Lionsgate marketing exec and part-time photographer Tim Palen shot the photo as part of an upcoming book titled Guts: The Art of Marketing Horror Films. NYMag says that the book is “a collection of his creepiest work, including a pornographic, absolutely not-safe-for-work portrait of Roth”. The photo is called “Eli Roth Has the Biggest Dick in Hollywood.” The prosthetic was built by K.N.B. Effects, the same effects company that worked on The Chronicles of Narnia and The Island. The book is set to hit stores in July, although I can’t seem to find it on Amazon.
We decided that the photo was too graphic for the /Film frontpage, so if you really want to see Roth’s Dirk Diggler, check it out after the jump.
Posted on Monday, June 4th, 2007 at 1:02 pm by: Peter Sciretta
Eli Roth Nude SMALLJeeez, what won’t Eli Roth do to promote Hostel: Part II!? When I heard that horror director Eli Roth had posed nude for a double page spread in an upcoming photo book, I was shocked. But when I saw the photo, I laughed out loud.
Lionsgate marketing exec and part-time photographer Tim Palen shot the photo as part of an upcoming book titled Guts: The Art of Marketing Horror Films. NYMag says that the book is “a collection of his creepiest work, including a pornographic, absolutely not-safe-for-work portrait of Roth”. The photo is called “Eli Roth Has the Biggest Dick in Hollywood.” The prosthetic was built by K.N.B. Effects, the same effects company that worked on The Chronicles of Narnia and The Island. The book is set to hit stores in July, although I can’t seem to find it on Amazon.
We decided that the photo was too graphic for the /Film frontpage, so if you really want to see Roth’s Dirk Diggler, check it out after the jump.
06-07-07, 12:09 AM
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As of 1:08 AM on Thursday, its sitting at 100% on rottentomatoes.
06-07-07, 12:35 AM
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From the clips i've seen online, the acting is no worse than part 1. As for shock value - I don't remember much shock value from part 1 either. I just found it entertaining.
06-07-07, 12:04 PM
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I didn't care for the first one and will pass on this one on the theater, I like the Saw films better at least they are a little creative IMHO( and no I am not trying to start a Saw vs Hostel argument I just enjoyed them more). The premise of the film does not appeal at all to me. I may catch it on DVD though, I wouldn't pay to see this in a theater.
06-07-07, 08:57 PM
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I saw a copy of the workprint tonight. I really liked the first one but just didn't care much for this one.
06-08-07, 12:14 AM
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Harry's "review" on AICN is pretty damn funny.
Me, I was totally surprised at the turn of events regarding the desperate househusbands...
Me, I was totally surprised at the turn of events regarding the desperate househusbands...
06-08-07, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Rogue588
Harry's "review" on AICN is pretty damn funny.
Me, I was totally surprised at the turn of events regarding the desperate househusbands...
Me, I was totally surprised at the turn of events regarding the desperate househusbands...
06-08-07, 04:37 AM
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What a piece of fucking shit this movie was, and this is coming from someone who enjoyed the inital outing. This is what I said on this forum over a year ago when I saw the first film theatrically on opening weekend:
Hostel: Part II is nothing like the first film. To be honest, it suffers the same fate that Battle Royale II did -- it should've been more of the same, but it fails trying not to be -- and Eli Roth is not that type of filmmaker, not yet anyways. I came in expecting a horror film with death and violence abound and instead I got a boring character-driven thriller with terrible acting and even worse plot contrivances. It seemed that everybody in my group agreed with me as did everyone else in the theater.
The film has some stand-out moments, such as the character arcs regarding the American businessman and a character's fate at the film's climax. However, all of the things that made the first film so entertaining are completely gone. The female nudity? Mostly gone. The on-screen kills? Most gone. Oh, the torture is still there, but everything just feels tamer and washed away for mass consumption. There are good ideas planted here and there (such as the character arcs I previously mentioned), like 28 Weeks Later, but they're just not executed properly. The difference between Hostel: Part II and 28 Weeks Later is that the latter actually brought some of that brilliance to the screen, despite being a major misfire. Hostel: Part II just sits there and flounders around it's ideas until it's too late.
In a summer full of sequels that are terrible, Hostel: Part II is another one you can chalk up to that list. I really wanted to like this movie, you have no idea, but I just couldn't. This is a sequel that tries to be bigger and better, but just fails at the sight of trying.
Originally Posted by Younger Matthew Chmiel
Considering Hostel's primary function is to serve as a splatter film, with that, self control goes right out the window. Roth (or any director) is there to (torture or) kill off as many characters you can in unique, disgusting ways as possible. The higher the body count, the more of a reaction you'll get from an audience who are viewing the film. And I'm all for a splatter film that is not afraid to show all of the mayhem that is occuring.
However, in all other aspects of the film (other than nudity -- which there was a lot of, but I'm not complaining about that in no way), Roth does have self-control as the whole film is based right off the Hitchcock model. All of Hitchcock's "rules" of making a perfect thriller are all there in Hostel. Everything from the non-dramatic exposition straight to the demise a few choice characters suffer during the film's final act.
Hostel is one of the better American horror films in years. Not only was Roth able to create a nifty splatter film with a "simple" plot using methods that Hitchcock himself would be proud of, but he was able to throw in some social commentary as well. And all in a quick, easy to swallow 90 minute package.
However, in all other aspects of the film (other than nudity -- which there was a lot of, but I'm not complaining about that in no way), Roth does have self-control as the whole film is based right off the Hitchcock model. All of Hitchcock's "rules" of making a perfect thriller are all there in Hostel. Everything from the non-dramatic exposition straight to the demise a few choice characters suffer during the film's final act.
Hostel is one of the better American horror films in years. Not only was Roth able to create a nifty splatter film with a "simple" plot using methods that Hitchcock himself would be proud of, but he was able to throw in some social commentary as well. And all in a quick, easy to swallow 90 minute package.
The film has some stand-out moments, such as the character arcs regarding the American businessman and a character's fate at the film's climax. However, all of the things that made the first film so entertaining are completely gone. The female nudity? Mostly gone. The on-screen kills? Most gone. Oh, the torture is still there, but everything just feels tamer and washed away for mass consumption. There are good ideas planted here and there (such as the character arcs I previously mentioned), like 28 Weeks Later, but they're just not executed properly. The difference between Hostel: Part II and 28 Weeks Later is that the latter actually brought some of that brilliance to the screen, despite being a major misfire. Hostel: Part II just sits there and flounders around it's ideas until it's too late.
In a summer full of sequels that are terrible, Hostel: Part II is another one you can chalk up to that list. I really wanted to like this movie, you have no idea, but I just couldn't. This is a sequel that tries to be bigger and better, but just fails at the sight of trying.
06-08-07, 08:45 AM
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Yeah, but honestly how many on screen deaths did Hostel part 1 have? I honestly think the torture in this one was on par with the first one. Yeah the nudity was gone, but look at how many people complained about that for the first film. You can't please all of the people all of time. Too bad you didn't like it.
For everyone else a couple more reviews:
http://dreadcentral.com/index.php?na...ontent&id=1478
http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=reviews&id=10634
For everyone else a couple more reviews:
http://dreadcentral.com/index.php?na...ontent&id=1478
http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=reviews&id=10634
06-08-07, 08:48 AM
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I forgot to add another review link. For some reason the board isn't letting me edit my post.
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/review/1058
Its a counter balance to the other two reviews.
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/review/1058
Its a counter balance to the other two reviews.
06-08-07, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cerial442
Yeah, but honestly how many on screen deaths did Hostel part 1 have? I honestly think the torture in this one was on par with the first one. Yeah the nudity was gone, but look at how many people complained about that for the first film. You can't please all of the people all of time. Too bad you didn't like it.
Josh getting his heels cut open, Paxton getting his fingers cut off, the Japanese girl getting her face burned and her eye cut off are all scarier and more disturbing than the on-screen torture we saw in this outing (in which it just consisted of a chick hanging upside down getting her throat slit and a guy getting his junk ripped off).
06-08-07, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RichC2
As of 1:08 AM on Thursday, its sitting at 100% on rottentomatoes.
And now down to 53%.
06-08-07, 05:24 PM
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I went to the premiere last night in LA and saw this with a packed house and the cast/crew. Now, first off, I'm someone that wasn't a huge fan of the first film. I gave it a 7/10. I enjoyed it, but I thought the first hour was too talky and not entirely funny. Once they got to the gore my interest was piqued, but I still didn't revel in it as I expected to.
Hostel II is leaps and bounds ahead of the first film. I didn't think it was all that terrifying (some parts were) but, goddamn, was it bloody as hell. I can't believe he got an R and I really can't imagine what ended up on the cutting room floor. I'm a total 80's slasher gorehound so most of the brutality was right up my alley. I empathized with these girls a bit more than the guys of the first film, but they are still just stereotypical in their attitudes and appearance. The film plays like the first one on steroids. Even Eli himself told me he thought the second film is the better of the two. The cameos felt much more natural than Miike's forced-English clip. I'm not going to spoil anything but this is something that should be seen with a receptive audience. 9/10.
Hostel II is leaps and bounds ahead of the first film. I didn't think it was all that terrifying (some parts were) but, goddamn, was it bloody as hell. I can't believe he got an R and I really can't imagine what ended up on the cutting room floor. I'm a total 80's slasher gorehound so most of the brutality was right up my alley. I empathized with these girls a bit more than the guys of the first film, but they are still just stereotypical in their attitudes and appearance. The film plays like the first one on steroids. Even Eli himself told me he thought the second film is the better of the two. The cameos felt much more natural than Miike's forced-English clip. I'm not going to spoil anything but this is something that should be seen with a receptive audience. 9/10.