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Godfather 3/Spider-Man 3:which third installment drops the ball worse?

Old 05-05-07, 03:02 PM
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Godfather 3/Spider-Man 3:which third installment drops the ball worse?

I saw Spider-Man 3 and found it to be rather lackluster compared to the first two. However, I only found it such in that it was preceded by two mindblowing prequels. The movie was good, but only good. After the achievments of the first two I expected something great. Especially with most of the original team still involved. Movies like X-3 where someone else takes over almost get an excuse for not living up it seems, as all one can do sometimes is ape another act. I guess I just didn't expect Raimi to fumble the ball at this point.

The only other movie of which I can think where everyone who was involved in two acclaimed prequels with a third one that was merely good but not great is Godfather III . It was not a bad movie (the scenes without Sophia were quite well done IMO), but definitely lacked the energy of the previous two, and it showed.

NOTE: I am not including LOTR because from a production standpoint, it was all one outing. I am not including Matrix Revolutions because both it and Reloaded were one outing, as well as POTC 2 and 3.
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Sure, Spiderman 3 was average but not as bad as GF3.
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Not going to lie, this is a pretty stupid poll.

The Godfather 3 is a terrible sequel, but there have been worse.

Scream 3?
Return of the Jedi?
Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome?
Austin Powers in Goldmember?
Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth?
National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation? (Oh, I'm gonna get shit for this one.)
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Um, SUPERMAN III?
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Spiderman 3 never had a ball to begin with.
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Amen. Spiderman 3 never had a ball to begin with, is correct. The big difference is people are just now realizing how Rami totally screwed this franchise up. I firmly believe, that in time, the previous two Spiderman films won't age and hold up.

With that said, no option for Return of the Jedi?

Oh and I like Godfather 3.
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GODFATHER 3 changed character's personalites from the 1st two movies and gives the series a bumer ending to the whole legacy. SPIDER-MAN 3 in no way does that!
SPIDER-MAN 3 could maybe compared to STAR WARS 3 & 6 or even INDIANA JONES 3.
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I don't even have to have seen Spider-Man 3 yet to know the answer to this one. The Godfather Part III is the bastard step-child of cinematic legends. I've watched it, I've tried to like it, it can't be done. I just don't find anything redeeming about watching the movie. If anything it only served to taint the impeccable legacy of the first two films.
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Matrix 3....The most dissapointing last hour to what would otherwise be a great series....

But other than that Scream 3 is a very weak and depressing end to the series...

I think Spider man 3 is the best of the trilogy and I think Godfather III is a very good film that is underrated...

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Matrix dropped the ball on part II and III. So I guess this can easily be a silly thread where the options are only Godfather III and Spider-man III.
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Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
Matrix dropped the ball on part II and III. So I guess this can easily be a silly thread where the options are only Godfather III and Spider-man III.
I would say Matrix Reloaded dropped the ball first. Matrix Revolutions, imo, is slightly better than Reloaded -- but that's really not saying much.
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GOOD PARTS OF GODFATHER PART III:
-Apache helicopter scene
Spoiler:
Sofia Coppola's death


GOOD PARTS OF SPIDER-MAN 3:
-Bruce Campbell's scene
-J. Jonah Jameson
-Sandman's character development
-The entertainment was very watchable, if instantly forgettable

One movie had Sofia Coppola. The other had Bruce Campbell. Go figure.
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However, there are far worse third parts than Spider-Man 3.

Batman Forever, X-Men: The Last Stand, RoboCop 3, Back to the Future Part III, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III, Rambo III...I rest my case.

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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
I would say Matrix Reloaded dropped the ball first. Matrix Revolutions, imo, is slightly better than Reloaded -- but that's really not saying much.
Yeah I felt the same way. After sitting through the weird Zion dancing/orgy sequence, the ball was long gone.
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So, the consensus is that DVDTalkers don't like Spider-Man 3? (Not counting LivingINClip he never liked any of them) Shame. Hype is such a terrible thing.
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Originally Posted by Zen Peckinpah
GOOD PARTS OF SPIDER-MAN 3:
-Bruce Campbell's scene
-J. Jonah Jameson
-Sandman's character development
Haven't headed over to the main review thread yet, but...Bruce & Jameson's bits were funny at first but, like a typical Family Guy joke, it went on way too long. And Sandman's character "development" was laughable at best (but Church was pretty good).
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
So, the consensus is that DVDTalkers don't like Spider-Man 3? (Not counting LivingINClip he never liked any of them) Shame. Hype is such a terrible thing.
I dug it. It had it's flaws and it could've been a lot better -- but for what it was, a film made by committee, I enjoyed it.

Batman Forever, X-Men: The Last Stand, RoboCop 3, Back to the Future Part III, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III, Rambo III...I rest my case.
Whoa there. You can take Batman Forever and Back to the Future Part III out of there. Forever is a guilty pleasure of mine (and this is coming from soneone who never liked what Burton or Schumacher did with the franchise) and Back to the Future Part III is damn entertaining.
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I liked the first two Spideys, but comparing them to Godfathers 1 and 2 is crazy talk.
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The one where the daughter of a famous director turns in a bad acting job.
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You're insinuating Spider-Man 1 & 2 were as good as Godfather 1 & 2. They were entertaining but definitely not as good as.
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Godfather III dropped the ball, but on it's own still rates a 3 out of 4 or a "B" grade. (Problem was the first two were four star "A" grade movies...)

Spider Man 3 doesn't drop the ball at all. It continues the series quite nicely, thank you. I liked Spider Man 3 better than the first movie (which I liked a lot), and even if Spider Man 2 set the bar rather high Spider Man 3 didn't miss it by all that much.
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This thread is bullshit. Spider-Man 3 doesn't drop the ball. It's actually a good movie. Unfortunately the expectations were so high since Spider-Man 2 is considered one of the best comic book movies of all time.
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"The Godfather Part III" is vastly underrated. Sure, it's significantly inferior to the first two "Godfather" films but it's hardly a bad movie by any stretch.

That said "Spider-Man 3" doesn't even come close to "dropping the ball" like such legendarily-disappointing third installments as "Return of the Jedi" and the aforementioned "Godfather Part III".

The "Spider-Man 3" backlash baffles me and I honestly think people will start to appreciate it more as time goes on. It's undeniably inferior to "Spider-Man 2" (the gold standard of comic book movies) but I don't think it's significantly inferior and I think it's arguably superior to the first "Spider-Man" film.
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Spider-Man 3 is a worse film than The Godfather Part III(if you can even compare the two), but the latter is a worse sequel considering what preceded it.

I'd rather pretend both movies don't exist though if it were up to me. Please WB don't screw up Nolan's Batman trilogy by forcing too many villains and subplots into the sequels.
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I think "Batman Begins" is already guilty of "too many villains" syndrome.
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
Shame. Hype is such a terrible thing.
Not as terrible as the film's interpretation of a "darker" Spidey.

Peter's hair gets greasy and he dances the jig. Le gasp.

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