Wow, they are really digging into the bottom of the barrel. As a kid, I grabbed tons of old Metal Men comics from a used bookstore, and I liked them okay (still got em' too). But, conceptually, this is just a terrible property to adapt.

Not when it comes to animation. Marvel has done nothing that compares to Batman:TAS, JLU or Batman Beyond.

Agree with the poster above.. Infact, I would say that even on film Marvel haven't done an outstanding job. Yes, they have a lot of films out there, but quanity does not equal quality... The original Superman, Batman Begins, Superman 2, Batman (1989)are all terrific films.. Then you have the Flash TV series which was also fairly decent. I won't even get started on the animation side where DC has just kicked all kinds of ass.

Oh..yea...back on topic.

Metal Men...Sounds ....crappy.

Well, the original Superman movies suck. Then there was Catwoman. Although Burton's Batman is probably the best comic book movie ever. Batman Begins and Superman Returns were pretty good. However, Spider-Man is consistently the best comic book franchise. Along, with the X-Men movies being pretty damn good. And a bunch of mediocre movies including Daredevil, the Punisher and the Fantastic Four. DC has yet to do anything really. Where's Aquaman? Wonder Woman? Flash?

But the point is for looong time Marvel movies where always shit. But DC has been kicking ass since Superman in the 70's. Marvel's RECENT success with Spider-man and X-men is just that...RECENT.

And Im sorry, but Marvel will NEVER touch the Justice League/Unlimited series.

Come on robo, you know the way it goes. "What have you've done for me lately?"

Marvel's success may be reccent, but it's pretty much here in a big way and yes, DCA is the best but DC is really lacking when it comes to powerhouse films. The batman franchise has suffered for a while till Begins. The Superman one now suffers BECAUSE of Returns and we have had scrubbed films for Green Lantern, first with eddie murphy and then with Jack black. We lose Joss whedon for Wonder Woman and The Flash is in a stand still with Goyer.

I have faith in Johns. I love his books and got most of them signed. But metal men? I mean, really, that's not really the biggest name to pick. You might as well see a Power Pack or X-force film from Marvel.

Yeah I guess. But it's still a new thing and who's to say how long it will last.

Sorry, you lost all crediblity there. The original Superman movie is one of the greatest films ever, infact, the Spider-Man franchise has done nothing but rip off the Superman films, almost scene by scene...And Burton's Batman, while I'm a fan, is nowhere near the best comic book movie ever, hell it's not even the best Batman movie.

I agree. Batman Returns is so much more like the Batman in the comics. It reminds me of the old Neal Adams/Denny O'Neil version.

The first 70's Superman movie was ok...and very overrated. Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor just did not work at all for me, and Christopher Reeve was more wooden in that role than Al Gore was during his 8 year run as Vice President under Clinton.

The entire character of Lex Luthor in that movie just didn't work for me...he had hair in 99% of the movie, he had his headquaters underground in a sewer for some reason when he was supposed to be this rich CEO type character who was virtually untouchable, and the people he surrounded himself with were morons. The real Lex Luthor would be more cunning than that...

The woman they had play Lois Lane also sucked and ruined the character for a long time. She was nothing like the Lois from the comics and her voice sounded like some old grandma at a Vegas slot machine who smoked since she was 5.

The flying around the planet to turn back time idea was also really taking things too far, but Superman 2 really deviated from the comics in a big way (what the hell was up with that plastic wrap that he pulled off his chest?????). Really, I can't believe these movies are so highly regarded now...is it just because Christopher Reeve had his accident that people started to look at them in a new light?

And Tim Burton's Batman flicks....Michael Keaton will always be Mr. Mom playing Batman...he was lousy. Jack Nicholson as the Joker was a cash grab for both Jack and to get people to see the movie, and the Prince soundtrack?????

You people have far more forgiving memories than you need, that's for sure.

Christopher Reeve was always reknown for that role, it had nothing to do with his accident, the fact that you have to bring that up to justify your disregard for the film is disgusting.

The film had problems, but when you consider when it was made, the. source material, it was a fantastic film. Yeah, he turned the planet back, but guess what? It's accurate to the comics, Pre-Crisis Superman could friggin tow planets .

Burton's Batman, was the film responsible for bringing back Batman to his dark roots. Perfect? No, but a good film? Yes.

As for Superman 2, yeah, it had a lot of cheesey points, but guess what? So does Spider-Man and X-Men. Infact, I would say t the Spider-Man series is the most over-rated, due to the fact that not a single person in the series can act worth a damn.

I can't remember the thread where it was argued that all COMICS have ripped off from each other and when translated to film, those same elements of a hero make everything very similar.

Well, sir, our memories serve us differently. I recall more of a lukewarm reception to the Superman movie when it came out.

And I just wondered when the shift changed....you seem to recall people being enamored with this movie all this time as the pinnacle of comic book movies. It seems most people gain more recognition for their work after they die/go through some life changing accident that changes them for the worst. That's the way it's been for a long, long time. You may find me bringing up "disgusting" but that's the way human nature is.

Yeah, but Spider-Man ripped off Superman beyond belief. Spider-Man 2 had the same ordeal as Superman 2, with him quiting and what not (granted that was also in the comic) and now we got Spiderman 3, with him donning a suit that makes him grumpy. Yes, all situations was in the comic, but its amazing how much Rami followed the Superman series also.

Just my two cents.

Ooooh snap you're right! Wasn't there a "black" costume and an evil out of control Superman in Superman III?

In other words, they're both comic book movies. Every comic, if it goes on long enough, has those stories.

Well, thank God I didn't lose any credibility While I can understand that the Spider-Man movies aren't your thing the Superman movies are laughably bad. At least now comic book movies take themselves seriously albeit sometimes too seriously.

I'd rather see the Goyer offical unoffical green arrow project that's going around now a days.

Or maybe the pitch was: Transformers Meets Fantastic Four!