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slop101 02-14-07 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by Snowmaker
Just watched it for the first time. Pretty good, but the end left me a bit confused:

Spoiler:
1. What was supposedly in that envelope Leo gave the shrink? Did I miss it?

2. So, was Marky Mark really good or bad? I couldn't quite understand his motive for just shooting Damon like that.

Spoiler:
Your questions tie into each other. You didn't miss anything, it's all implied, and rather obvious if you pay attention.
Supposedly, Leo gave the shrink info to pass onto Marky Mark - she was a police shrink, and it's safe to assume that she knew how to get a hold of him. He did tell her "don't open it unless something happens to me" - so as soon as he dies, Damon finds Marky Mark in his house - some people don't agree with this, but most do.

Snowmaker 02-14-07 03:02 PM

Ah, thanks.

Nuff 02-14-07 03:32 PM

I finally saw this last night and really enjoyed it. I was expecting to be let down and instead it exceeded my expectations. Very good to great movie all around.

tylergfoster 02-14-07 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by slop101
Even still, just like he mailed the recordings to the Damon, he could've mailed them to the police, or at least found a way to get the evidence to someone that would help - which would've been way smarter than what he did. And that still doesn't explain why he still didn't know about Costello's other guy on the force after he had the recordings - because if he did, he should've handled things differently.

I'm re-watching it now...I don't remember what the recordings were of specifically, but in the movie Damon's friend never does anything outright. I mean, I'm sure he must have, otherwise he'd be kind of useless -- or perhaps just a backup -- but I guess if the guy never speaks up then there's no way to be caught.

slop101 02-14-07 05:23 PM

I don't know what that other rat did or didn't do - I'm just going off of what Billy says to Damon: "Costello recorded everything". Based on that, all his work was done for him, and he didn't need to apprehend Damon the way he did.

Josh H 02-14-07 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by slop101
Based on that, all his work was done for him, and he didn't need to apprehend Damon the way he did.

Well, Damon had told him that Dignam was gone and no one could find him.

Thus in that case Damon was the only person who know his identity, knew he had been undercover, could get his identity back and get him his money etc.

Maybe he thought confronting him the way he did was the only way to get his identity back and that if he turned the stuff in the cops would just think he was one of Costello's grunts turned snitch and Damon would have no reason to tell them otherwise?

Still a stretch, and it is a bit of a plot hole. The reality is its just there to lead to a more dramatic conclusion.

musick 02-15-07 01:19 AM


Originally Posted by slop101
The interview with Scorsese in Entertainment Weekly also bothered me. Scorsese seemed disengaged. When reminded that he is using the Rolling Stones’s “Gimmee Shelter” yet again to kick off a film, lamely replied that, “I guess I’m repeating myself.”

pretty much sums up how I felt watching this movie

good but nothing I haven't see him or others already do better

picked up the BB version blind today but rented the movie to make sure I liked it before opening

the rental goes back tomorrow on its due date as does the sealed dvd to BB
glad I watched it but don't need to own it

james2025a 02-15-07 09:28 AM

I enjoyed this movie, but feel that it is not the film that Marty should win the Oscar for. He should have won it before now for either Taxi Driver, Ragin Bull or Goodfellas. It just feels that the the Oscar is being pushed on him this year rather than his film truly deserving it. The film is very good, but compared to some of his other efforts its somewhere in the middle. I felt that Jack was a tad wasted in the role, i prefered Infernal Affairs to this movie and the Boston accents got a little grating after a while. Added to which the performance by the actress playing the shrink just annoyed the hell out of me. When i rewatched the movie i just flicked past every scene with her in. I don't mind the music being repeated from some of Scorsese' other work, and i love Gimme Shelter.....but i prefered the Irish backing track...it brought more atmosphere to the movie.

The DVD itself is excellent. I watched the very interesting documentary on the true life Boston Crime syndicates and also am half way through the Scorses on Scorses documentary which appears to run for at least maybe an hour and a half. I really appreciate seeing this kind of reflection by a director on the movies that they make.

The Bus 02-15-07 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Buttmunker
Would The Departed be:

a) a better movie with Robert DeNiro in the role of Captain Queenan instead of Martin Sheen

b) a better movie with Denis Leary in the role of Sgt. Dignam instead of Mark Wahlberg

These two actors (DeNiro/Leary) were originally slated for those roles. Do you think their inclusion would have made the film even better than it was, or worse?

Both of those are sort of the "expected" versions of the characters. When has Leary not played a smart-ass? Plus, he looks a bit too old. Wahlberg gives off the aura of a smart-ass that's done well and moved up quickly. (I know he's not in his 20s but he looks much younger than Leary). And after Analyze This and Meet the Cash-Ins I can take a long break from DeNiro.

Zodiac_Speaking 02-15-07 12:59 PM

I loved the movie on its theatrical viewing. Can't wait to revisit this.

I know a lot of people complaining about Jack (some say DeNiro should've been casted) and the second time "Gimme Shelter" was played (Marty's 3rd use for it), but maybe we've been too spoiled on his amazing filmography? I love Scorsese, so I might be a Scorsese apoligist, but this film is really good, smart, and doesnt warrant the planned sequels.

If he wins Best Director, he does deserve it. Not for the missed opportunities the Academy missed, but he was the best director of 2006 (and yes, I've seen all the other nominee's films). Case closed.

Can't wait to see his next...

hardercore 02-15-07 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by james2025a
I enjoyed this movie, but feel that it is not the film that Marty should win the Oscar for. He should have won it before now for either Taxi Driver, Ragin Bull or Goodfellas. It just feels that the the Oscar is being pushed on him this year rather than his film truly deserving it.

The Oscar goes to "Best Achievement in Directing" for the year 2006, not "Best Achievement in Directing in your 38-year career, 2006 or no." The Departed is the best directed film on 2006. He deserves it.

OutRun2 02-15-07 08:27 PM

when are the oscars?

clemente 02-15-07 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by hardercore
The Oscar goes to "Best Achievement in Directing" for the year 2006, not "Best Achievement in Directing in your 38-year career, 2006 or no." The Departed is the best directed film on 2006. He deserves it.

Gee, I'm still not sure how you stand on the Departed from your signature.

I would say Marty's directing job on the Departed was probably top 5 for last year, but because no one completely blew the field away (not that Alfonso or Guillermo were even nominated) they're going to give him the award, for justifiably a job well done, just not the best he's ever done.

zekeburger1979 02-15-07 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by OutRun2
when are the oscars?

Sunday the 25th.

DVDpackrat 02-15-07 11:57 PM

I wish DiCaprio had been nominated for this, he was brilliant. I really feel like I could watch this film everyday.

GoldenJCJ 02-16-07 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by DVDpackrat
I wish DiCaprio had been nominated for this, he was brilliant. I really feel like I could watch this film everyday.

That's the breaks for having two great acting performances in a year. Don't cry for him too much, he was nominated for Blood Diamond.

Legolas 02-16-07 01:44 AM


Originally Posted by hardercore
The Oscar goes to "Best Achievement in Directing" for the year 2006, not "Best Achievement in Directing in your 38-year career, 2006 or no." The Departed is the best directed film on 2006. He deserves it.

Oh come on. The Oscars have always given out the award to people they snubbed before. Do you really think Paul Newman deserved Best Actor for The Color of Money? And Denzel Washington was much more deserving for The Hurricane than Training Day.

RagingBull80 02-16-07 03:27 AM

I thought some of you guys might be interested in seeing this...
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1802/dscn2562bl0.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2149/dscn2564dk1.jpg
It's the trailer.

Buttmunker 02-17-07 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
That's the breaks for having two great acting performances in a year. Don't cry for him too much, he was nominated for Blood Diamond.

This isn't the first time DiCaprio has shot himself in the foot with two great performances in one Oscar season:

1993:
1) This Boy's Life
2) What's Eating Gilbert Grape

Gasspasser 02-17-07 11:32 PM

Loved it and just finished. Came in here to try and get some answers about what exactally Nicholson's character was doing for the FBI. I saw somewhere that someone thought that he was stealing those chips or something like that. But got a little lost through all the loved-it-hated-it posts. Any quick answer out there?

kms_md 02-18-07 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by Gasspasser
Loved it and just finished. Came in here to try and get some answers about what exactally Nicholson's character was doing for the FBI. I saw somewhere that someone thought that he was stealing those chips or something like that. But got a little lost through all the loved-it-hated-it posts. Any quick answer out there?

frank's character was based on whitey bulger (a south boston irish mob boss), who, in fact, was a long time FBI informant and used his position as an informant to gain power within the crime world. IIRC, no specifics are described in the film.

OldBoy 02-18-07 11:12 AM

just re-visited this opus last night and wow! is this a great flick.

the only thing i found cheesy and didn't notice it in the theater was:

Spoiler:
the last shot of the rat on the ledge of Sullivan's apt. looking towards the State House.

did anyone notice this in theaters or on dvd and has some comments? it seems like a cheap trick that MS doesn't usually resort to. i don't know about it...

Buttmunker 02-18-07 11:41 AM

I noticed it on the DVD, but thought it was just ironic because the
Spoiler:
rat was outside on the balcony, not inside the apartment
. I thought, at first, it was Dignam who left it, but now I think it was just there.

I thought it was ironic, not so much cheesy.

OldBoy 02-18-07 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by Buttmunker
I noticed it on the DVD, but thought it was just ironic because the
Spoiler:
rat was outside on the balcony, not inside the apartment
. I thought, at first, it was Dignam who left it, but now I think it was just there.

I thought it was ironic, not so much cheesy.

yeah, that is obviously what Martin was going for, but i just thought it didn't work and kinda took away a bit from the end. plus. i thought it looked cg'd.

Shazam 02-24-07 09:56 PM

Just watched it last night. Great movie. Fantastic performances. Really enjoyed the plot.

Leo's best performance in ages (although I hear he's good in Blood Diamond). It really pisses me off that he wastes his talent making C-D-F grade movies most of the time.

Jack's improv leeway in this movie led to some great scenes with honest reaction shots from the actors.


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