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OutRun2 10-20-06 06:44 PM

Great flick! Couple of questions, dudes:

1)Is it true that Ed Norton was already cast as the character Leo played, but pulled out of the project during filming because he was beefing wth Damon?

2)Is the movie better than Miami Vice?

B.A. 10-22-06 05:09 PM

I finally caught this w/ my wife and we both enjoyed the hell out of it. ****1/2 out of five.

atari2600 10-26-06 01:38 AM

Spoiler:
ah man...what the hell was in that envelope?! the last 10 minutes of the movie i was DYING to see what was in there and i cant believe they never showed!

marty888 10-27-06 04:54 PM

Terrific movie - with so many outstanding performances. (Yes, I've seen the IA trilogy and loved it.)

As others have said or implied, one of the rewards of this movie is seeing the "cute guys" (Damon, DiCaprio & Wahlberg) all pull off adult roles, matching two of the best actors ever (Nicholson & Sheen).

Legolas 10-28-06 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by OutRun2
2)Is the movie better than Miami Vice?

Miami Vice and The Departed are two entirely different animals. They're both about undercover cops, but that's where it ends. Miami Vice is all about the procedure and completely empty on character -- like an R-rated Law & Order. The Departed is all about the characters.

monkeyboy 10-28-06 05:41 PM

Miami Vice was one of the worst films I saw this year, I really hated it. I really liked the Departed. As for people laughing in the theater at the ending, while that can be a bad thing(like the laughing that was erupting during my screening of Miami Vice), in this case, I think it was just astonishment at the sequence of rapid fire events. I laughed a bit too, but it wasn't because I thought it was silly and I suspect the same thing was going on with the oher laughers.

FinkPish 10-28-06 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by bravesmg
Maybe I missed the answer, but I also had the question

Spoiler:
I still don't understand what Jack was doing as an FBI informant. Did they know he was basically killing assloads of people? He seemed to operate with impunity, I don't understand what the FBI was gaining other than the occassional low level grunt it sounded like he turned over.

Spoiler:
That may have been something that they decided to use from Infernal Affairs 2, which is a prequel to the first Infernal Affairs. In that, Jack's counterpart is sort of the low man in the triad situation, so the Martin Sheen's counterpart uses him to get info on the bigger guys.
Spoiler:
Of course, by the end of that movie, Jack's counterpart is the big gangster and won't keep feeding the police anything anymore.
I could be wrong though.

BravesMG 10-29-06 01:48 AM


Originally Posted by FinkPish
Spoiler:
That may have been something that they decided to use from Infernal Affairs 2, which is a prequel to the first Infernal Affairs. In that, Jack's counterpart is sort of the low man in the triad situation, so the Martin Sheen's counterpart uses him to get info on the bigger guys.
Spoiler:
Of course, by the end of that movie, Jack's counterpart is the big gangster and won't keep feeding the police anything anymore.
I could be wrong though.

I saw it again this weekend and this is really bugging me after a second viewing
Spoiler:
I was watching intently to see if something slipped through the cracks that I may have missed to explain just exactly *WHAT* Nicholson did as an informant. It was a turning point for the whole movie, and unless I'm missing something, it makes no sense. IF they pulled it from IA, they can't just leave it hanging out there. I kind of agree with one of the above posts that it really feels like an epic movie when you leave, but it didn't work nearly as well the second time through.

What does shine through the second
time were the performances of Dicaprio, Wahlberg, and Farminga (sp?), I thought they were outstanding. Dicaprio deserves a nod just for keeping that role together, any overplaying could have killed that whole movie, he hit every note throughout the whole thing.

chrisih8u 10-29-06 10:55 AM

Nicholson's character being an FBI informant is the most realistic part of the movie. :lol:

atari2600 10-29-06 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by atari2600
Spoiler:
ah man...what the hell was in that envelope?! the last 10 minutes of the movie i was DYING to see what was in there and i cant believe they never showed!

^^^ anyone know?

jdslater1 10-29-06 08:06 PM

I have seen this twice now and the second time was better, mainly because I wasn't trying to second guess it because i have seen IA1 and IA2 so many times.
Just one of the best casts for sometime (well until Smoking Aces comes out!).
I saw this 1st in the UK and 2nd when I was on holiday in SF, obviously the Patriact act joke got a better laugh in the US, but I thought Baldwin got some great laughs in (I presume most of the actors were allowed a certain amount of improv).
I'm not a Leonardo fan but I thought he was excellent in this role and it was great to see Damon in a baddie role.
Also this film has to have some of the best lines of the year and a def for a purchase on DVD. I can just imagine watching this while working nights at my job.

Giantrobo 10-31-06 03:39 AM


Originally Posted by Legolas
Regarding the inappropriate moments of laughter, it's not the director's fault that moviegoers are getting increasingly stupider.

In this case I think any laughter had more to do with the utter "WTF?!?!!" shock of how it all went down. I don't think it was about a stupid public.

GreenVulture 11-03-06 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by atari2600
^^^ anyone know?

Spoiler:
I'm pretty sure it was info that proved Sullivan was the rat, which explains why Dignam killed him. I would assume there would be also be in the envelope a way for Madolyn to contact Dignam.

RocShemp 11-03-06 09:48 PM

Too bad that wasn't made clear enough. It's really just left to one's own assumption.

GreenVulture 11-04-06 12:21 AM

You're completely right, RocShemp:

Spoiler:
I rationalized that because it was really the only way to explain the ending. I seriously doubt Scorsese would overlook a giant plot hole like that if the envelope contained something other than the info proving Sullivan was the leak.

But I'm willing to bet money that the DVD will contain a deleted scene of Madolyn visiting Dignam after Costigan's funeral with the envelope in-hand.


To get away from the ending for a minute, Baldwin's "I'm gonna go have a smoke right now. You want a smoke? You don't smoke, do ya, right? What are ya, one of those fitness freaks, huh? Go fuck yourself" line had the entire theater laughing pretty loudly and got the biggest reaction (the second biggest was from Nicholson's rat impression). Combine that with him celebrating the Patriot Act along with his "mother/wife" exchange with Wahlberg, and the man is just comic gold in the movie.

ckw4b 11-12-06 04:41 AM

I enjoyed the the film, but have a question about the ending:

Spoiler:
How in the world did Barigan (Costello's other mole) know that Damon was also Costello's mole? In Infernal Affairs, Tony Leung's character sent a copy of the phone conversation to the police. However, the recording was intercepted by the other mole and therefore, the other mole knew that Damon was one of Costello's guys.

In the Departed, there's no explanation as to how Barigan obtained this information since Costigan never sent a recording to the cops. I find it incredibly hard to believe that Barigan was able to figure it all out himself seeing how basically no one on the entire force knew who Costello's mole was.

hardercore 11-21-06 04:24 AM

I absolutely loved this film. It's surpassed Raging Bull for me as my favourite Scorsese work. Where Raging Bull's direction is flashier, more masterful; The Departed is just suspenseful, wonderfully acted, plot driven, kick ass entertainment.

I immediately went out and saw Infernal Affairs (well, I saw a late screening of The Departed so it was next morning), and I find it funny how the director of Infernal Affairs casts off The Departed as "the Hollywood version" so dismissively. If anything, Infernal Affairs is.

Spoiler:
Take the handling of death, for example. Scorsese's treatment is brutal, abrupt, remorseless. Captain Queenan, or even the main character Costigan get whacked in a split second, and the camera just continues. In Infernal Affairs, we get the whole schebang - the slow motion reaction of the characters, the dramatic music crescendo, even a black and white montage in order to evoke some kind of emotional response. That's more "Hollywood" than anything Scorsese would choose to do.


Just my thoughts. I thought The Departed (A+) was far better than Infernal Affairs (A-).

treszoks 11-23-06 08:39 PM

Wow, that was a lot of headshot kills hehe.

hardercore 11-23-06 09:27 PM

^ Wow, that's a fine way to fucking spoiler a movie.

flashburn 11-24-06 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by hardercore
^ Wow, that's a fine way to fucking spoiler a movie.

OMG!!?!! You mean people die in this movie?!?!

Mr. Cinema 12-02-06 05:43 PM

I now have a new #1 movie after finally seeing this. From what I've watched, this easily has the best acting I've seen this year. I love the scenes with DiCaprio and Nicholson, especially the face to face conversation in the bar about 90 minutes into the film. It's a great exchange between the two. It's wonderful to see one of the all-time greats sharing the screen with one of today's great actors. DiCaprio, in my opinion, does not get near enough credit for his acting ability. He's got great range. I'm wondering if the role for Nicholson was originally written for DeNiro. It certainly seems like it was, but Jack was great as usual.

I think the 2nd act is probably the best part of the film. The pace really picks up and there's lots of tension. Just a great movie overall with a knockout cast. Unless something else wows me over the next few weeks, I think I know what I'm rooting for come Oscar time.

Buttmunker 01-15-07 04:34 PM

I'm surprised that Sullivan was able to
Spoiler:
shoot his mentor Costello
without any remorse.

Maybe Sullivan really had no remorse, which explained why he was able to do what he was doing all along.

***
If you had to pick one (1) actor to win an Oscar from this film, who would it be? DiCaprio, Damon, Wahlberg, or Nicholson?

Buttmunker 01-15-07 04:35 PM

If Martin Scorsese doesn't win his Best Director Oscar for this film, then the next time really will be more of an honorary thing.

Nobody really thought Scorsese had any more left to him, but this film proved all the nay'sayers wrong. This film was amazing, and if Scorsese wins the Oscar for this film, it will be because he deserves it.

And the fellow who wrote this screenplay also deserves to win. it was very tight.

OldBoy 01-15-07 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by Buttmunker
Nobody really thought Scorsese had any more left to him, but this film proved all the nay'sayers wrong.

who exactly said he had nothing left? he got raves after "The Aviator" and decent for Gangs.
frankly, i think he has a lot left.
and "The Departed" should win it for him and will win it for him. when tonight nets him the GG, it will be locked up.

Troy Stiffler 01-15-07 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by Buttmunker
If you had to pick one (1) actor to win an Oscar from this film, who would it be? DiCaprio, Damon, Wahlberg, or Nicholson?

Damon. The part where he breaks down in the elevator was my favorite.


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