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DVDsAreMyLIFE 10-08-06 07:11 PM

Loved the movie, does anyone know the name of the song of the old school Irish song that had a rock remix to it, it was played in the beginning of the movie when the title appeared and later when they were driving in the car near the end?

RoyalTea 10-08-06 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by DVDsAreMyLIFE
Loved the movie, does anyone know the name of the song of the old school Irish song that had a rock remix to it, it was played in the beginning of the movie when the title appeared and later when they were driving in the car near the end?

"I'm Shipping Up To Boston"
Performed by Dropkick Murphys

lawyer goodwill 10-08-06 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by RoyalTea
"I'm Shipping Up To Boston"
Performed by Dropkick Murphys

Great tune!

Applejack 10-08-06 08:28 PM

Excellent movie. One of those times when I could have stayed in the theater to watch the next showing if I had the time. I thought the acting was exceptional.

Only one very minor complaint though.
Spoiler:
The whole thing with DiCaprio giving the shrink the envelope to be opened after he died, in two weeks, etc. I don't need everything tied up in a bow necessarily, but it would have been nice if we had a clue what was in it, if she opened it, etc. It seemed like whatever was in it was likely information about Matt Damon's true identity that was given to Mark Wahlberg and lead to Matt Damon's death, but we'll never know for sure. They should have either made that clearer or just let Matt Damon get away with it and not brought up the envelope thing IMO. That being said, I LOVED the movie


About the use of Gimme Shelter. Who cares? Its a great song. He can use it as much as he wants because I never get tired of hearing it.

Geofferson 10-08-06 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by Applejack
Excellent movie. One of those times when I could have stayed in the theater to watch the next showing if I had the time.

Same here. I can't recall the last time I walked out of the theater being as pleased with a movie as I was with this one.

DRG 10-09-06 01:25 AM

I loved this movie, although there was one element that didn't ring true for me: the Madolyn character. I've never seen IA so I don't know if this was carried over from that film or if this was Scorcese's invention, but the idea that she was separately involved in both DiCaprio and Damon's lives, especially
Spoiler:
to the degree that she's engaged to Damon and screwing DiCaprio,
was just way too coincidental and implausible for me. I suppose there's a sort of irony to the idea, but come on.

JayDerek 10-09-06 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by Geofferson
Same here. I can't recall the last time I walked out of the theater being as pleased with a movie as I was with this one.

Same here also. LOVED this film

ShaunoftheDead 10-09-06 08:18 AM

What an incredible movie. This is one that stays with you long after it is over. There was not one bad performance and the dialogue was so crisp and riveting. I remember just focusing on everyone speaking and interacting.

This was the first movie that I know of that I thought the script played the biggest role. I never focused on it before but this time is just had me glued- every character, every word uttered. It was so much more about words for me than anything else. I think that is what bolstered such stellar performances from each and every character.

I honestly think that every character gave the performance of their lives. Forget about what they won the Oscar's for- Jack, Leo, Matt, Mark, Alec will have a very tough time eclipsing their performances in this movie.

Scorcese should be nominated and win for Best Director. Hands down. I don't care what comes out of the pipe from now until Dec. 31....he is the winner and it is long overdue. But, forget the sentimental vote- he should win for the skill he brought to this movie and evoking the performances he did out of this wonderful cast. This is what directing is all about.

You start with the screenplay, have the performers and direct the hell out of it all.

This will go down as a Scorcese masterpiece Period!

The Bus 10-09-06 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by RoyalTea
"I'm Shipping Up To Boston"
Performed by Dropkick Murphys

That's actually a Woody Guthrie song. It's on the Dropkick Murphy's newest, The Warrior Code.

runnersdialzero 10-09-06 09:26 AM

Like everyone, I loved this movie. We see crap most of the year and then when something really good comes out, it hits you like a ton of bricks.

I went to a matinee and saw a couple of old folks leave. Hmm, wonder why? I guess they went because of the marquee names. Should have realized that this is the guy who made GoodFellas.

Also, now that I think about it...anybody remember when Damon was in Police School and the lesson for the day was what a bullet does when it enters the head. Nice foreshadowing. :)

Saxon

grifter 10-09-06 10:00 AM

I only saw the first IA. Did this take scenes from IA 2 and 3?

gryffinmaster 10-09-06 10:07 AM

Great film, and a great time at the theater. I'm not a huge fan of Scorsese's work as a whole, but I thoroughly enjoyed The Departed. The dialogue was exquisite, the pacing was fantastic, just about every single performance was genuine and expertly crafted - especially Jack's mob boss Costello. There was an air of humor and believable psychoses that really rang through in his performance. I didn't think the violence was THAT brutal either. Sure, there was a few hardcore scenes, but nothing major. Oh, and the cinematography and score were also very well done. Like others have said, I left the theater thoroughly twisted, breathless, and pleased. :up:

My only gripe came within the last 30 seconds of the film (Do NOT read the SPOILER if you haven't seen the film) ...

Spoiler:
Personally, I think it would have been fitting for Sullivan to survive amidst that fear of exposure for the remainder of his life.

I was hoping the film was going to end with the psychiatrist walking away from Sullivan directly after the funeral (at this point, I'm thinking "Wow, fantastic ending. Best Film of Year material"). As she's walking away, I was left with lots of unanswered questions that would have been GREAT left unanswered ("Whoa, will she expose him?", "Will another member of the force discover the truth?", "Is the baby HIS?", "What really IS is the envelope?"). Then, once I saw Sullivan easily bite it and escape that dread at the end, all of those points lost their weight for me.

Up until the climax, the film was a borderline A / A- for me. With the conclusion, I'll give it a strong B+.

Bobby Shalom 10-09-06 10:53 AM

I enjoyed the hell out of it. I don't think I need to pick which film I like more... I liked Infernal Affairs and The Departed about equal - each for different reasons.

To add to some nitpickings - the Boston accents started to wear on me, every once in a while I could just tell one of the actors had to emphasize the last word in their sentence with a bit more Bostonian.

Also a thing that bugged me in Infernal Affairs, and The Departed -

Spoiler:
It should be so obvious to the criminals that Decaprio is the rat. There are some movie reasons why they don't think so, re-breaking his arm, he arrives at the empty building, etc. But there are just too few gangsters, and they continue to trust him. I remember thinking the same thing about Infernal Affairs. After a while it became a bit frustrating.

runnersdialzero 10-09-06 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by DVD King
I don't like to form opinions right after I see a film because so much can change within the space of a week, let alone a few months--but I can't stand reading all this endless praise without any rationality. It's funny however that you guys are no different than the critics on rotten tomatoes-- they write better, but I get the same general impression

I'm not quite sure what you want us to say. Not everyone wants to write a 2 page review about it. Do I really need to have some great rational on why I like or dislike a movie? I just love this movie, bottom line. Don't rag on us because we really like this movie. Sure, most of us our bias because we already love Scorsese, but I could imagine myself watching this 5-10 years from now and still being blown away by it.

Saxon

Dan1boy 10-09-06 11:25 AM

Loved it too...great thread here...I especially agree with Bobby Shalom's hidden spoiler as that was the one thing that bothered me as well.

Amazing film. Not better than IA but very very close.

runnersdialzero 10-09-06 12:41 PM

Another aspect I liked about this movie was the use of Cell Phones. They were almost like a character in the movie.

They are so prevalent in our society today and I'm glad that Scorsese didn't look over this fact. Half of the things that happened in this movie wouldn't and couldn't have without the use of cell phones.

Any other opinions on this?

Saxon

The Bus 10-09-06 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by DVD King
I have no bias, for the record; I own more scorsese films than any other director excluding hitch

I don't understand the Gangs of New York exercise. That movie to me always seemed like one of those great stylistic exercises ("Look at those top hats!"). Gangs of New York really didn't have much depth to it.

MasterCXtreme 10-09-06 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by runnersdialzero
Another aspect I liked about this movie was the use of Cell Phones. They were almost like a character in the movie.

They are so prevalent in our society today and I'm glad that Scorsese didn't look over this fact. Half of the things that happened in this movie wouldn't and couldn't have without the use of cell phones.

Any other opinions on this?

Saxon

And never a 555 number I noticed.

They all used sanyos by the way... Sprint represent

Noonan 10-09-06 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by MasterCXtreme
And never a 555 number I noticed.

They all used sanyos by the way... Sprint represent

And they used the proper area code for Boston.

maxfisher 10-09-06 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by DVD King
Just because a film is good entertainment doesn't make it a masterpiece. I think this one might fall into the category of Gangs of New York-- great theater experience, talent on display in every area, but time proves it to be hollow. What was the point of that film again? To document the real gangs of new york? I hope not.
The Departed feels like it retreads too much of it-- DiCaprio is under the wing of another vicious mob boss, whom he really wants to kill. The cranberry juice barfight scene is almost no different than the barfight scene in Gangs. DiCaprio once again is a lost, angst-ridden youth who comes to serve freedom. You could make comparisons all over the place but that's not what matters-- it seems as if Scorsese isn't entering any new territory and as a result this is a film he could coast with because there's so much familiar material. A smart, witty script, set in Boston, gangsters vs. cops featuring a prime cast, is there anything that could be more comfortable to work with? Is there any doubt that this wouldn't be entertaining? The film's still sinking in but I think already it has more substance than Gangs, but not Aviator, which I think was more of a step in the right direction even though I have a distaste for biopics.

I don't like to form opinions right after I see a film because so much can change within the space of a week, let alone a few months--but I can't stand reading all this endless praise without any rationality. It's funny however that you guys are no different than the critics on rotten tomatoes-- they write better, but I get the same general impression

You say you're irritated by the overly positive reception the film is getting, but your first two paragraphs make it sound like the thing that's really bothering you is Scorsese getting praise. I think there could be some interesting debate on how much credit he personally deserves, but I don't think people loving the film is that hard to understand, mainly for the two bits I bolded in your post. The whole time I watched the movie, I was continually drawn in by the dialog. I'd say it was easily my favorite script from a movie in 2006. Add in the great performances and it's not hard to see why people are talking so highly about the movie.

The only thing that didn't work for me was the giant coincidence of both guys getting the same girl, in one way or another. Other than that, I felt like the movie and its characters were perfectly true to the universe it created, which seems to be kind of rare these days.

Rypro 525 10-09-06 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by DRG
I loved this movie, although there was one element that didn't ring true for me: the Madolyn character. I've never seen IA so I don't know if this was carried over from that film or if this was Scorcese's invention, but the idea that she was separately involved in both DiCaprio and Damon's lives, especially
Spoiler:
to the degree that she's engaged to Damon and screwing DiCaprio,
was just way too coincidental and implausible for me. I suppose there's a sort of irony to the idea, but come on.

that character is in the first one (and I belive the second one also) but she wasn't in it that much.

TheStoicPaisano 10-09-06 07:17 PM

There are 3 females in IA. The psychiatrist only 'hooks up' with Leung. He also meets an old flame in a scene which completely disrupts the flow (this maybe explained in IA2 or 3, which I've yet to see). Like Damon, Lau moves in to a new place with his girl, but she's a writer and their relationship exists way before the movie's timeline.


Originally Posted by MasterCXtreme

They all used sanyos by the way... Sprint represent

I believe Jack used a Motorola.

Finisher 10-09-06 07:36 PM

Scene where DiCaprio rips the hat rack off the wall and stomps the hell out of those two mobsters sold it for me. One, you buy that Nicholson would believe DiCaprio is not a cop and two, you buy DiCaprio as a physical threat. As good as Gangs of New York and The Aviator are, they are limited by DiCaprio's boyishness; in The Departed, there is no such limitation.

The language in this film is reminiscent of Full Metal Jacket: turning profanity into sort of an art.

Loved the music (especially Van Morrison's cover of "Comfortably Numb"), loved the cinematography (Michael Ballhaus is a better fit for Scorsese, I think, than Robert Richardson) and loved the core premise (I have not been that tense throughout a movie, living and dying with the characters, in a long time).

Matt 10-09-06 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by MasterCXtreme
And never a 555 number I noticed.

I think I saw a 555. . .

Spoiler:
. . .in the jewel case of the CD that Leo sent the shrink.

Brain Stew 10-09-06 08:55 PM

The scene where Leo and Damon

Spoiler:
are both on the cells waiting for the other to answer
was awesome.

MigusMaximus 10-09-06 09:23 PM

Few comments about the flick (saw it Monday afternoon), and will comment more later if someone would tell me how to use the spoiler tag....

-As someone who is getting increasingly annoyed at every piece of dreck of a movie being greenlit, I loved having a movie with such teeth to look forward to, and, aside from getting a little lost in the beginning with the fast dialogue setting up the story, I loved it and look forward to seeing it again on my next Monday off where I can get to a matinae showing so I can flesh out what I might have missed.
-As far as the accents, I thought that Leo and Jack emphasized the Boston accents early to set environment and mood and then gradually laxed into their usual dialect where Marky Mark and Matty Damon seemed to put their natural accent into pure overdrive.
-Being a New Englandah, I loved all the local touches, and I loved that the out of territory mobsters were from Providence (where I was born and bred). As mentioned before, I also liked how the proper area code (617) was used on the cell phones.
-I think the amount of movies Ive taken in the last 5-10 years have desensitsed me to the extreme violence (also, the thought that I know that in real life, these people will clean themselves off and get to see another day). The language, on the other hand, was a touch dissarming, although I will grant that it was necessary considering the hardcore nature of what the subject matter was. Although, no matter how old I get, I will never grow content hearing the "n" word in conversation.

I have my own take and complainted about the ending. Once again, can some1 tell me how to use the spoler tag?

Matt 10-09-06 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by MigusMaximus
Few comments about the flick (saw it Monday afternoon), and will comment more later if someone would tell me how to use the spoiler tag....

(snip)

I have my own take and complainted about the ending. Once again, can some1 tell me how to use the spoler tag?

[spoiler*]Vader is Luke's father.[/spoiler*]

Remove the asterisks, and you have:

Spoiler:
Vader is Luke's father.

jeffkjoe 10-10-06 02:22 AM

Can someone use the spoiler tags to describe some of the violent stuff that went on in this movie? Just how violent is this compared to say, Casino or Goodfellas?

Do we see anyone's eyes get squeezed out by a vice per se, or a dude getting whacked to death with aluminum bats?

List the violent scenes in The Departed.

Cardiac161 10-10-06 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by jeffkjoe
Can someone use the spoiler tags to describe some of the violent stuff that went on in this movie? Just how violent is this compared to say, Casino or Goodfellas?

Do we see anyone's eyes get squeezed out by a vice per se, or a dude getting whacked to death with aluminum bats?

List the violent scenes in The Departed.

Spoiler:
Goodfellas & Casino are definitelty more graphic in its scenes of violence. The only ones here, as I recall, are gunshots to the head...quite a bit of them. Also a few beatings as well. But definitely not as much as Scorsese's previous "gangster" films. I personally don't understand why other critics and viewers saw The Departed as violent as Goodfellas.

Shannon Nutt 10-10-06 11:47 AM

For those worried that THE DEPARTED might be too "gory", don't worry. The violence is in the shock value of each act and not in the actual blood/gore shown on screen. It is, IMO, no more "bloody" than GoodFellas or Casino.

I saw this last night and have to give it a B+ as far as Scorcese's work goes. It's actually an A+ compared to everything else we've seen at the movies in 2006, but historically speaking (i.e. how we'll look at it 5 or 10 years down the road), it's a solid B+ movie.

I hope Marty finally gets his directing Oscar for this one (ironically, he might be going up against Clint Eastwood AGAIN!). My only fear is that the movie isn't cinematically gorgeous (as The Aviator was) nor is there a lot of fancy camerawork - so I'm worried that Hollywood might not see how brilliantly directed THE DEPARTED actually is.

I agree with several of the previous posters that wish the ending was a little MORE ambiguous. I wish we could have gotten more of a "Mystic River" like ending than the much darker one Scorcese gives us here. I think the film loses a lot of its "replay" value, and manages to suck all sense of "hope" out of the audience. Not to say that isn't what Marty was shooting for...it's just not the choice I would have made...

Giles 10-10-06 12:00 PM

this might have been mentioned but I thought Mark Wahlberg stole nearly scene he was in - he had such classic funny lines.

RichC2 10-10-06 12:31 PM

I really enjoyed the acting in this flick, first movie where I bought Leo as someone other than... Leo.

Shannon Nutt 10-10-06 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Giles
this might have been mentioned but I thought Mark Wahlberg stole nearly scene he was in - he had such classic funny lines.

I agree...I figured most would be making "Marky Mark" jokes, but he was really good in this picture...as was almost everyone else. Leo continues to prove that he's on his way to becoming a legendary actor, and I think Matt Damon might get his first Best Actor win (well deserved - his perfomance and accent were spot-on)...he certainly should get his second nomination.

Geofferson 10-10-06 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by Giles
this might have been mentioned but I thought Mark Wahlberg stole nearly scene he was in - he had such classic funny lines.

Agreed - Wahlberg's performance stuck with me more than the others. One of his best roles to date.

"I'm the guy who does his job."

"You must be the other guy."

:lol:
(I think I got that right)

GoldenJCJ 10-10-06 03:11 PM

I'll chime in and agree with the majority that loved this film. I saw it three days ago and I'm still playing it in my head. All the performances were perfect IMO, and I have to say that the editing was also great. To keep track of all those characters interacting with each other yet never apearing on screen together was pulled off seemlessly.

I'm also in agreement that Mark Wahlberg stole every scene he was in. I never cared for his music but I love him as an actor. I've enjoyed him in everything he's been in.

suziq999 10-10-06 04:40 PM

My question
 
What was in the box that J.Nicholson gave Matt in the back of the car when he graduated from the academy?

Was it
Spoiler:
a phone? If so... that's lame...

Deftones 10-11-06 12:14 PM

I have a question. What did DiCaprio's character give to the shrink in the envelope? I assume it was evidence implicating Damon's character. And, did she pass it along to Whalberg's character and we just didn't see it in the movie?

Really enjoyed the flick. Probably one of the, if not the best, I've seen this year.

Giles 10-11-06 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by Geofferson
Agreed - Wahlberg's performance stuck with me more than the others. One of his best roles to date.

"I'm the guy who does his job."

"You must be the other guy."

:lol:
(I think I got that right)

your'e right - it's also featured prominently in HBO's First Look episode for the film.

Giles 10-11-06 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by Deftones
I have a question. What did DiCaprio's character give to the shrink in the envelope? I assume it was evidence implicating Damon's character. And, did she pass it along to Whalberg's character and we just didn't see it in the movie?

my friend and I who saw Infernal Affairs I and II (we didn't stay to see III) at the Palm Springs International Film Festival thought we remember the character in IF actually open the letter. That whole part is vague in my memory, but it seems trunscated for the Hollywood version.

thematahara 10-11-06 09:27 PM

Saw this last night, overall the movie was pretty freakin fantastic, but I think it did fall apart at the end.

Spoiler:
The death's of all the character's just came off as a little too comical for my tastes. Starting with nicholson's death it seemed like the movie veered into a dark comedy.

The death of Leo would have been fine, and was very unexpected causing many gasps in the audience but the the rapid succession of head shots killed the shock and filled the theater with laughter.

Most of the audience was laughing throughout the end of the movie. It didnt seem like that was the intended reaction we were supposed to have from the film.


The movie was close to perfection until the last 20 minutes, then it felt like I was watching someone trying to recreate a Tarintino film.

Am I totally off base or was this film intended to be more of a dark comedy?

Leo was the bright spot for me in this movie. I usually cant buy him as an adult in any other film, but he played one hell of a tough guy in this one. Oscar worthy material, which is hard for me to say given the usual dislike I have for him.

The rest of the cast was great as well, all except for Damon. I dont believe his acting was bad by any means, but I felt his character was a little underwritten.


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