Synecdoche, New York (Charlie Kaufman)
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I watched this yesterday and I thought it was great.
I'm not sure I understand what was happening but I loved watching it happen.
Watching everything he did become the play.
His life became the play to the point were he was non essential anymore
because his "role" was played by someone else.
I was moved to tears at the end mostly because
then the end.
I'm not sure I understand what was happening but I loved watching it happen.
Watching everything he did become the play.
His life became the play to the point were he was non essential anymore
because his "role" was played by someone else.
I was moved to tears at the end mostly because
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You can read it a lot of ways...I mean, he just kept on going and going. So it could be commentary on the necessity of a producer to keep a director in check and reign him in even if it just means setting a parameter through financing limitations or a deadline.
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He deserved the Best Supporting Actor win for Doubt. But, also deserved a Best Leading Actor nomination for this. Didn't deserve the win for it as I think Rourke did, but he should have gotten a nomination at least.
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I didn't think he was all that great in Doubt, just a bit loud. He was very good in this.
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I FINALLY saw this movie Wednesday night, after sitting on the Blu-Ray for a few days and not having the time to give it proper time and attention.
Holy cow.
Synecdoche, New York has just ripped past MULLHOLLAND DR. and HABLE CON ELLA to top my list of the best movies of the decade. What a wicked, nasty, heartbreaking, and insanely perfect delineation of a sad man's dreaming mind. Delineation is probably a bad term to use, as nothing here is truly linear. The opening scenes, in which a few moments take place over the span of six months without even realizing it, clues you in to the fractured, oblique reality of Cotard's existence. The radio says it's early October, he gets the mail and it reads mid October, he goes to the refrigerator and the milk is expired ("October 20th"), then he hits his head and goes to the doctor's office (which has Christmas decorations all over), on the ride home the radio says it's the first day of spring.... WHAT is happening here? Time is accellerating in a way unfamiliar and uncomfortable to the viewer, yet within the context of the movie we're hurtling through Cotard's life in a way works within the framework of recalling and recollecting. He wakes up as 7:43 am turns into 7:44 am, and at the end he's being told by Ellen (the cleaning lady who becomes him) that (paraphrased) "One moment it's 7:43 and you're here, now it's it 7:44 and you're here, and then you're gone..."
My favorite parallel is when Hazel asks him to beg her for a kiss, and then later his dying daughter begs him to admit he was a homosexual, underscoring his self-stylized victimization by women. Nothing is "real" here in the sense that everything shown to the audience is how Cotard has envisioned, reimagined, recalled, or exaggerated about his life.
I loved this movie. What a challenging, heartbreaking, and exhilerating piece of work. Easily Kaufman's masterpiece.
Holy cow.
Synecdoche, New York has just ripped past MULLHOLLAND DR. and HABLE CON ELLA to top my list of the best movies of the decade. What a wicked, nasty, heartbreaking, and insanely perfect delineation of a sad man's dreaming mind. Delineation is probably a bad term to use, as nothing here is truly linear. The opening scenes, in which a few moments take place over the span of six months without even realizing it, clues you in to the fractured, oblique reality of Cotard's existence. The radio says it's early October, he gets the mail and it reads mid October, he goes to the refrigerator and the milk is expired ("October 20th"), then he hits his head and goes to the doctor's office (which has Christmas decorations all over), on the ride home the radio says it's the first day of spring.... WHAT is happening here? Time is accellerating in a way unfamiliar and uncomfortable to the viewer, yet within the context of the movie we're hurtling through Cotard's life in a way works within the framework of recalling and recollecting. He wakes up as 7:43 am turns into 7:44 am, and at the end he's being told by Ellen (the cleaning lady who becomes him) that (paraphrased) "One moment it's 7:43 and you're here, now it's it 7:44 and you're here, and then you're gone..."
My favorite parallel is when Hazel asks him to beg her for a kiss, and then later his dying daughter begs him to admit he was a homosexual, underscoring his self-stylized victimization by women. Nothing is "real" here in the sense that everything shown to the audience is how Cotard has envisioned, reimagined, recalled, or exaggerated about his life.
I loved this movie. What a challenging, heartbreaking, and exhilerating piece of work. Easily Kaufman's masterpiece.
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Wow. Just finished it. Beautiful, sad, heartfelt, apocalyptic, bewildering, funny, complex...it touches on so many emotions I don't even know where to begin, and it has truly affected me. I don't know if it's my favorite of Kaufman's scripts, but the ambition in this one puts them all to shame.
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This is what I thought, every event in the movie is like a literalized neurotic version of what might have actually happened. I didn't notice the thing about time, though. Very interesting...
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Just watched it and damn....this is a challenging film. I'm a HUGE fan of Charlie Kaufman, but this was something on another level. It's a very scattered piece of work. It was almost too stream-of-conciousness for me to actually enjoy it on first viewing.
I'm sure this was Charlie's grand opus that was meant to only truly make sense to him. No matter how much dissecting we do, I don't think anyone will ever really get it. This isn't to say it was a bad movie. Any movie that is different and that challenges a viewer should be regarded on a higher level. There were some really beautiful moments in the film. I, for one, really enjoyed the speech given by the pastor near the final moments of Cotard's life.
What I took from the movie is that life is just a play, separated by moments. Time is not important. Only people are important. I loved the idea of how Cotard's life is wrapping in around itself (like a Russian Nesting doll). Even though he was surrounded by people, he was always lonely. So focused on this loneliness, he couldn't even see when he had loving people around him until it was too late. This was a man truly living in the past and with too much regret.
I'll really have to watch this again to see what I can gain from a second viewing. I'm still on the fence. There was a bit of pretentiousness to the film that turned me off. In terms of enjoyment, at this time I would rank this film near the bottom of Kaufman's work.
I'm sure this was Charlie's grand opus that was meant to only truly make sense to him. No matter how much dissecting we do, I don't think anyone will ever really get it. This isn't to say it was a bad movie. Any movie that is different and that challenges a viewer should be regarded on a higher level. There were some really beautiful moments in the film. I, for one, really enjoyed the speech given by the pastor near the final moments of Cotard's life.
What I took from the movie is that life is just a play, separated by moments. Time is not important. Only people are important. I loved the idea of how Cotard's life is wrapping in around itself (like a Russian Nesting doll). Even though he was surrounded by people, he was always lonely. So focused on this loneliness, he couldn't even see when he had loving people around him until it was too late. This was a man truly living in the past and with too much regret.
I'll really have to watch this again to see what I can gain from a second viewing. I'm still on the fence. There was a bit of pretentiousness to the film that turned me off. In terms of enjoyment, at this time I would rank this film near the bottom of Kaufman's work.
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Anyone else recently revisit this film? Saw it again on DVD for the first time in about a year. My estimation of the film has gone up, but I'll be damned if I have any more idea now than I did then what sense to make of it all. Individual moments shone for me, and I loved how Kaufman exploited the two-hour temporal unit of a movie to give a sort of heightened awareness of a really harrowing sense of time's exponential passing, which is how Caden would feel.
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Anyone else recently revisit this film? Saw it again on DVD for the first time in about a year. My estimation of the film has gone up, but I'll be damned if I have any more idea now than I did then what sense to make of it all. Individual moments shone for me, and I loved how Kaufman exploited the two-hour temporal unit of a movie to give a sort of heightened awareness of a really harrowing sense of time's exponential passing, which is how Caden would feel.