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devilshalo 09-04-06 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by JordanGLC
I'm trying to recall when Godzilla was not man-in-suit in that movie....

The US Godzilla was digital, the old school Godzilla was not (they faced each other in Final Wars).

JordanGLC 09-04-06 10:45 PM

Oh OK, when you said "Godzilla 2000" I thought you meant the Japanese (real) one, since Godzilla 2000 is a Toho film. The Columbia TriStar Godzilla film came out in 1998.

UAIOE 09-05-06 03:03 AM


Originally Posted by devilshalo
The US Godzilla was digital, the old school Godzilla was not (they faced each other in Final Wars).

Yeah, that scene was the pinnacle of my geek delight.


A movie that needs a CG fix up?

Robocop! (j/k)


Maybe the water tenticle in "The Abyss". I get the feeling it was supposed to be clear instead of how it actually turned out.

Giantrobo 09-05-06 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by JordanGLC
It's really more about budget and production time, not technical know-how. These movies are produced for the Japanese market first and foremost, and the potential box office could never justify an $80mil+ budget. Yoshimitsu Banno's production company has been trying to raise $30mil for it's 3D IMAX Godzilla movie. If this approximately 40 minute movie ever gets made, it will be the second most expensive movie with the name Godzilla in the title ever made (behind that 1998 debacle). And third place is a distant third. As for production time, these movies typically start shooting in the Spring and are released in the winter of the same year. Not much time for rendering photo-real level effects.

All that is fine and good but settling for shitty CGI in movies is precisely why people here and out in the real world bitch bitch bitch about CGI and hate it in general. It makes them nostlagiac for the often equally fake ane shitty looking conventional sfx of the past. I realize G-films are often geared towards kids in Japan but still, I believe G deserves better. But that's just me.

People can hate G98 all they want and I would be on their side to some degree. After all, call it what you want but that was NOT "Godzilla". ;) But that "Zilla" in that film was probably the best looking and most realistic "G" we've seen in years.



I wouldn't want Toho to abandon their traditional methods of miniatures and suitmation (I believe you feel the same way Giantrobo), but I have no problem with them blending in a little CG neither. Whatever works for the scene at hand. So far, I think 2002's Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla mixed in CG the most effectively and appropriately.
Fine. As long as it looks good. It's like TOHO treats "G" like a red headed stepchild.

Egon's Ghost 09-05-06 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
Ghostbusters

Boo-urns!! Great movies are great the way they are. I hate this crap.

DRG 09-06-06 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by SINGLE104
If this were to happen, the majority of the true die hard fans of The Teminator would much prefer the original movie, over a remake. It's authencity what make it so special. There are two sequels currently in exsistence, which features, new and improved CGI technology as a continuation of the story.

I'm not suggesting a full-blown remake, just some minor fx tweaking here and there. Nothing overblown like the Star Wars editions, and nothing to change anything in the movie plotwise (making it so old lady Sarah Connor shoots Arnie first) or add or remove any elements currently in the shots (adding 20 extra CGI cops in the police station scene).

As a standalone movie I will always enjoy the film warts and all. All I'm suggesting is that I wouldn't mind having - as an alternative option - a version with minor tweaks to some of the lesser effects shots. Such a thing could potentially play better when watching this back to back with a sequel. I'm sorry, but that head surgery scene was a bad special effect even for 1984... Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter's fake Jason head was 10x more realistic and that wasn't exactly big budget for its time either. Again I wouldn't even want anything fancy or showy here, this isn't about incorporating WOW special effects, just to clean up the shots so they look more realistic and less distracting.

raven56706 09-06-06 11:54 AM

Battlefield Earth

digidoh 09-06-06 01:12 PM

Normally, I'd say leave the movies alone, although in another board I defended the use of CGI in the first Star Trek movie. But Star Trek V is a good candidate for a makeover, as well as Superman IV, on the grounds that the effects weren't as good as the previous films in the series.

A movie that sprang to mind was the Chevy Chase comedy Memoirs of an Invisible Man. In many scenes, the audience was expected to imagine that Chase was invisible.

Artman 09-06-06 01:16 PM

Conan the Barbarian

Sure of course the original effects are "special" in their own way, but in the spirit of this thread it gets the nod. A remastered soundtrack too.

orangerory 09-06-06 11:48 PM

Krull

riley_dude 09-07-06 12:01 AM

Damnation Alley.

Alvis 09-07-06 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by Filmmaker
Mogwai body mechanics aside, I'd have the shot redone to not take place in broad daylight (major plot snafu there, he he)!

I've been thinking seriously about this question and think I've finally found the perfect answer--a film that should possess state-of-the-art special effects but, even upon release, was derided for having bargain-basement-level effects, under par for what had been on display in the series prior and after. That film is...

http://www.film-music.it/score/headers/startrekV.jpg

Then instead of having a pile of crap with shitty special effects, you'd have a pile of crap with good special effects. :)

Oh, and I own this dvd and love Star Trek, but this was a low point in the film series.

ScandalUMD 09-07-06 09:22 PM

I think that there are some classic films that would justify a remake, but there's never a reason to go back and mess up a film. Films are products of their times and shouldn't be unmoored from their moments.

I think a remake of Ghostbusters could work well. The idea of a haunted New York, and the apocalyptic tenor of the film has a whole new relevance now that would make the sort of jokes you work around the subject kind of dark and edgy. Also, the longer run-times of movies these days could really be used to flesh out the rather interesting premise of the characters getting kicked out of academia and going into the private sector, and also, it could be used to mine the contrast between Venkman's cynicism and Stantz's enthusiasm. I think this stuff was cut out of the movies to make more room for the development of the relationship between Venkman and Dana Barrett. I also think the goofy Rick Moranis character, who was basically comic relief for a cast of comedians, was a bad idea in the first place.

Think Will Ferrell as Stantz, Owen Wilson or possibly Vince Vaughn as Venkman, Jason Schwartzman as Egon.

There could be a really interesting Wes Anderson version, a nifty Judd Apatow version, or a more straightforward Doug Liman version. Any of these could be really good.

ScandalUMD 09-07-06 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by Squirrel God
Gremlins.

I say, leave 80's "Gremlins" alone, but find something cool and new for Joe Dante to do.

He got really ripped on for "Looney Tunes: Back in Action," but he fundamentally understood the characters, and his downfall was the studio pressure to make it family accessible and the attempt to try and keep the manic pace of the Looney Tunes going for a feature length.

I'd like to see Warners resurrect the Looney Tunes in new shorts presented before features. I bet a lot of famous writers and directors would be eager to take a crack at doing a Looney Tunes short (I want to see a Charlie Kaufman scripted, Spike Jonze directed Daffy Duck short), and this would be (a relatively cheap) something to get people who are waiting for DVD to come back to the movie theater.

Supermallet 09-07-06 10:10 PM

I agree that new Looney Tunes cartoons would be great, but Looney Tunes: Back In Action was easily the best anyone could have done for a feature, unless you count Gremlins 2, which is basically a Looney Tunes movie without having it star Looney Tunes characters (the opening not withstanding). Joe Dante more than any director in Hollywood understands what made Looney Tunes great and brought that expertise to the movie, which I still watch regularly.

UAIOE 09-07-06 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by Alvis
Then instead of having a pile of crap with shitty special effects, you'd have a pile of crap with good special effects. :)

Just like most action movies of the late 90's! (and i like most late 90's action movies)

I'd agree for some Looney Toon shorts, but they really should have tone and humor similar to the old ones.

I recall seeing one that i think was from the late 80's or early 90's (cut away from any explosions of violence) but the funny part was Elmer, Bugs, & Daffy starting to get into thier "wabbit season, duck season" bit when Daffy brings it to a halt and says something like "Oh no, we're not doing this again."


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