The film's music is spectacular. The film itself....a bit overrated, indeed.

Definately worth at least one viewing, not for everyone, and it's no masterpiece, but it's well put together, even though the editing style is pretty show-offy, it still gets message through powerfully. And yeah for 10-15 bucks in the two pack with Pi, you can't go wrong really.

Requiem for a Dream thread...have you seen it? You should.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread....postid=3281618

Funny stuff!

I used to have a link to a review that (rightly) savaged this piece of pop ludicrousness but I can't find it now.

If you're only interested in the move for that one scene go get yourself a porno for the love of God. -ohbfrank-

Don't mince words. Tell us how you really feel about this film. :lol:

And get banned? No thanks! :lol:

I agree with movielib that the characters in Requiem can be hateful and weak, but that is the point of the film and which makes it so tragic and powerful. If they were all good people who got into drugs by accident and had their lives destroyed, then I would fall right in line behind you, calling it a propagandistic POS. But these are all flawed characters who end up using drugs as a way to escape, or as a way to chase away boredom, which to me is more dangerous than if they were doing it out of curiousity.

OP, go see it, at least once, so you can form your own opinion. Don't expect rational behavior from the characters, don't expect something uplifting at the end, just watch it and see what it does to you.

I think it's a great film, and I definitely recommend it.

Hateful and weak I could take. It's their overwhelming stupidity that loses me.

When you have to make your characters this stupid to make your story "work" it's too much for me.

But there are people that stupid out there, so the film isn't reaching that far. Find one of those time lapse videos with the pictures of people on meth, and you'll see that people can be and are that stupid every day of their lives. I agree that the film is hard to watch, and one of those reasons is because the main characters never seem to learn from their mistakes or have a rational thought beyond where their next score is coming from, but that is what makes the film so tragic and powerful. I find romantic comedies harder to watch because the characters there aren't under the influence of any drugs, yet they act just as stupid and irrational as if they were.

I find the movie greatly entertaining and have seen it numerous times.

Characters never struck me as particularly stupid, just single-minded... and sadly, I know plenty of people like that.

And yeah, you should see it. It's a memorable film. Liking it or not will be completely up to you (as is the case with all movies.) but odds are, you'll remember it.

With what you've posted, it seems you didn't get the film.

FinkPish is dead on with his post. The characters in the film are intended to be stupid and weak and they can never learn from their mistakes. It makes the entire story a tragedy, especially when the third act rolls around and the characters have nowhere to go but down.

This movie is in my top 5 of all time. It is one of those movies that I liked when I watched it, but over the next few days I couldn't get it out of my head.

Not sure what to make of movielib's view of the film. When the movie is dealing with addiction and drugs, I found the characters and their action very realistic. To each their own I guess.

http://www.d-a-v-e.com/southpark/drugsrbad.jpg

Drugs are bad, mmmkay?

Now give me your $8.50 instead.

I don't see the film as anti-drug propaganda at all, nor do I see the people as too stupid or shallow. It's a fatalistic montage movie about drug obsession, and fairly well-written and directed, if too arty and self-conscious. The characters actions are pre-detirmined and constant as something circling down the drain, albeit in a flashy style. I really love the final montage.

This movie will F you up!

The movie is not just about drug addiction, but all kinds of addiction. I thought it was well done and stuck to its theme throughout the movie. I tried watching it again recently, and I found it too heavy. I watched it many times a long time ago, and I think the moral of the story stuck forever.

I don't mind that you and many others disagree with me. But I did get the film. I understand they are supposed to be stupid. But having four people this stupid all together and needing them to be this stupid to have any semblance of making the story "work" is just bad storytelling and filmmaking as far as I'm concerned. And I don't think anyone could be as stupid as the Burstyn character and live long enough to breed.

Flaws are one thing and can be very interesting and compelling like in most Greek or Shakespearean tragedies. Stupidity this monumental is quite another and is not interesting or compelling (to me).

I don't see Burstyn's character as stupid at all but rather just a tragic figure. Why is she stupid? She is at a point in her life where things are looking bad. A kid who steals from her for drugs. No husband. Same boring old life day after day. She then has a goal; to get on a TV show that she watches. She realizes that she is old and fat. With a doctor's direction, she takes medication to help her lose weight. She thinks it will make her life better. It works for a while but only for a while. She ups her dose and goes down a dark path. How was she to know she would end up that way? It was prescribed by a doctor so it must be safe right? Not seeing the problem.

I am seeing this from the point of view of an alcoholic. My uncle had everything going for him. Looks, good wife and kids, good job, etc. His only flaw was he liked to have a good time. Next thing you know, he is drinking a lot. 10 years later he is basically homeless, can't hold a job for more than a month, has been through 3 wives with 4 children that he never sees and doesn't pay child support. Family has taken him in and tried to help him. He cleans up for a month or 2 and then back with the drinking. Give him a few months and then repeat. I don't think he is stupid (in fact I know he isn't). He just made some bad choices that took him down a dark path that it looks like he will never get away from. Requiem is so realistic (except for the OR scene) that it isn't funny.

My ex hated this movie because it reminded her of people she dealt with every day as a social worker. It was too "real" and she had no idea why anyone would see something like this for entertainment.

It is not too hard to imagine a world where someone


Heck, there's people that fit the first two that were in my calculus class in high school. And that's like out of fifteen people.

You really think when this story is inplausible? I've read some nonfiction books describing situations which would be near unfilmable that do occur every day in America which make Requiem for a Dream sound like a pleasant change of pace.

Thanks all (well most of you, anyway). I'm probably going to just buy it. I'll definitely see it.

(Although, to the person who said "Look up the original thread" in a smart-alecky way, I say the original thread is well over 3 years old and held no info that I needed. To the person who said "Just rent a porno if that's the only scene you're interested in", I say that I'm a fan of Connelly's, and had no idea she'd done a scene like this. It's not my main reason for seeing the film, but a thread about the scene brought the movie to my attention. Happy now? Now excuse me, my porno is on.)

"Ass to ass!"

Give the forum rules another once over. Assuming that the similar posts there (it's good, and here's why; it's bad, and here's why) weren't enough, you could've simply bumped the existing thread and posed your question there.

Just sayin'.

-JP

But few (if any) of the spoilers were tagged! I didn't want to know the whole plot, I just wanted other folks opinions' on the film, not the major plot lines/twists/events. If you don't like a new thread...well... tough crap for you, my friend, I guess. The thread's here. Deal with it. Or don't, I really don't care. The less you post, the quicker it will disappear!