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Old 05-21-06, 09:03 PM
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SEE NO EVIL : sick fun time:)

I caught this film late this afternoon, and since I didn't find a thread on the film. I thought I'd start one.

I'll get straight to the point. The film is nothing more than a simple slasher flick,that get's going and never lets up until the end.

While the fake slasher films of the late 1990's(which were really whodunits masquerading as 'horror/slasher') are too ashamed to revel in what makes the slasher genre popular.

This film revels in all that we love about slasher films without coping out and playing it safe. You want real prothetic no CGI(except one scene I could tell) gore? you got it! There's no shying away this time around. You want elaborate deaths? You got it!

There is a sick gleefully sadistic attitude to the atrocities commited in the film. Alot I was shocked to see happen in an R rated film no less.

One death sequence stands above all the rest though and is the highlight for myself. I won't ruin it for those who haven't seen it. But I will say it had people in the audience on edge and squirming in their seats(and that includes me). And the payoff is brutal,painful,very nasty and ironic.

Also two cliches which have been done to death, were nice to see done away with in this film. I won't say what they were. But it was refreshing once I realized "wow..they didn't do what I thought they would like all the other films!".

So if you want a back to basics slasher film which delivers what it intends instead of pretending to be something 'better' than a simple 'horror picture'. Then see this film if you enjoy that stuff

Oh and stay through the end credits for a sick surprise that had me laughing and surprised it passed with an R rating.


The only bad thing I can say about the film is the flashy attempts at editing the film. Other than that,I enjoyed the brutal grisly mean spirited fight to the finish ride.
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I'm actually looking forward to seeing this. I don't get the chance to hit the theaters very often so hopefully it'll see a video release by September or so.
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I caught it too. The flashy editing was quite jarring. Great gore, bad dialogue. Okay slasher, nothing unique or special. This could've been direct to dvd.

Grade: C-
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this is a HILARIOUS review i read of this movie: has spoilers

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This is kind of a weird question, but have you ever thought there should be a movie about a big bald retarded muscleman with extreme religious views running around an abandoned hotel banging people against walls and plucking their eyeballs out? If so, today's your lucky day, and SEE NO EVIL is your movie.

The retarded muscleman is played by Kane, not the rapper Big Daddy Kane but apparently a famous wrestler of some kind, making his acting debut. According to the credits he is playing "Jacob Goodnight," a name they unfortunately never say in the movie. Like the character, the movie is big, dumb, almost definitely using steroids, and also way more fun than you would think.

SEE NO EVIL is the first film from the prestigious WWE Films. WWE is what we used to call WWF until they got sued by the World Wildlife Foundation. I guess people must've been donating money to Hulk Hogan thinking he was gonna use it to save the pandas, but it all went straight into his 24" pythons. I was hoping the WWE Films logo would be accompanied by rockin guitars and clanging metal hammers, then it would explode and spray sparks and flames everywhere, and maybe some skulls and demonic goatheads. It turns out their film division is a little more high-minded than the wrestling division though, so it's a simple logo with the sound of an orchestra tuning. I mean I'm talking 100% class. Then the last shot in the movie is a dog peeing into a dead man's eye socket. By the way this review contains spoilers.

The victims/heroes of the movie are a bunch of tough talking twentysomething juvenile delinquents straight out of a NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET sequel, brought in to clean up a filthy abandoned hotel as part of their community service. They are accompanied by two surprisingly lenient correctional officers, one of them being a kind of cool stoic cop with an artificial arm. This guy is the most interesting character and, of course, the first to die. (At first it seems like they're going for a funny twist where all the nice people die first and most horribly, and the assholes come out alive.)

The kids do almost no cleaning before they wander off to take part in various leisure activities:

1) Kicking back in unsanitary hotel rooms. They make themselves comfortable even though the walls are covered in filth and we keep seeing cutaway shots of squeaky rats crawlin around or roaches fuckin each other doggystyle.

2) Going up to the fire damaged penthouse to enjoy some of the ol' illicit drugs and/or sex. It is hard to say what will happen to these characters.

3) wandering through secret tunnels to find a lost treasure one character read about on the internet

For our entertainment, these activities are all interrupted by Kane, who will suddenly stomp out with a huge ax or a long chain with a hook on the end. A big bald dude just doesn't have the same iconic presence as a Jason or a Freddy, but he's a pretty entertaining villain because he really knows how to manhandle somebody. He is constantly dragging people by the hair or lifting people up by the neck, sometimes throwing people long distances or banging them against a ceiling or that type of thing. But he's bad at judging distances so his victims always get a limb or a head closed in the elevator doors, or he clumsily bangs em against a wall going through a doorway.

Sometimes he's treated like a t-rex, you hear him stomping in the distance. Other times he makes an entrance like he probaly does in wrestling. Like when he's behind a two way mirror and suddenly appears in a dramatic pose, silhouetted holding a giant ax.

Director Gregory Dark (WHITE BUNBUSTERS, NEW WAVE HOOKERS, DEEP INSIDE VANESSA DEL RIO, BLACK THROAT, BETWEEN THE CHEEKS... yeah right, like I gotta explain to YOU guys who Gregory Dark is) unfortunately slathers the movie in the obnoxious style some call "nu horror." Constant avid farts, whooshy camera move sound effects, random bleeps and blurts and buzzes and vibrating cameras. There's alot of Kane's-eye-view shots where everything is shaky and blurry. Ironically, the guy who collects eyeballs apparently needs glasses. One pretty hilarious show offy camera move is when a guy gets scared and takes off running with a steadycam attached to his face. For a minute it's like Spike Lee did a slasher movie.

Having one of the Dark Brothers (actually now days I guess he's both of the Dark Brothers) direct the movie is fitting because there's a theme about sexual repression. This Jacob Goodnight character has a corny backstory about how he was raised in a cage by a crazy Christian extra-super-fundamentalist mother who made him look at porn magazines and then punished him for it. A person with a more open upbringing would just go home and jerk off to a Dark Brothers movie but this poor bastard has to jerk off to a real girl locked in a cage.

So yeah, it's the same "sexually repressed killer gets riled up by teenagers screwing and smoking pot" thing we've seen in HALLOWEEN, FRIDAY THE 13TH and SILENT NIGHT, DEADLY NIGHT movies. But there's a funny twist. This guy is so paranoid somebody might screw in his abandoned hotel that he has all the bedsprings hooked up to a system of strings and pulleys that rings a bell and tells him what room the fuckin is going on in. When it happens, he gets an outraged "What the fuck!?" look on his face. As if he never foresaw the possibility that these bells would ring some day. We have a code red.

As far as maniacs go he's kind of a lovable oaf by the end, and Kane sometimes does a good job with the facial expressions (thankfully he barely talks). Other times he does wrestling style "make sure the guy in the back row can see it" acting. When he gets mad he puffs his cheeks out like a cartoon.

Although the characters, dialogue, story, camerawork, etc. are all incredibly fuckin stupid, there are a couple things in it that could be considered clever, including at least two really spectacular death scenes. I saw this at a free screening that was mostly empty. That's something you don't see too much, 'cause people would watch a documentary about picking boogers if you gave them a free hat and poster. But this small audience laughed throughout the movie and especially at Kane's climactic, uh, smackdown. When I saw the ridiculous teaser trailer I thought this looked like a bad straight to video movie, but I was wrong. This is something you gotta see with an audience. Definitely the funniest and most consistently entertaining bad horror movie I've seen in a long god damn time.

I do have one complaint: there's a scene where the bitchiest character gets force fed her cell phone. Unfortunately, we don't get to hear the phone ring from inside her. It's obvious, but it's a wasted opportunity. It also would've been nice if the talk button got bumped inside her stomach and it cut to her friend on the other end saying, "Hello? Hello?"

That last shot I mentioned before, with the peeing dog, is a brilliant post-credits bonus shot. Except for some reason they got the idea that the type of people who would pay money to see a slasher movie starring a professional wrestler are not the same type of people who would stay and watch the credits. So they put it near the beginning of the credits, which kind of weakens the effect. Still, you gotta respect a horror movie that not only doesn't show the killer come back to life at the end, but also shows his mutilated corpse being crudely defiled by animals. Like I said, 100% class.

That said, I swear on Jacob Goodnight's piss-smelling grave that I would pay money to see him undead in a sequel.

I would like to congratulate WWE Films, the Dark Brothers, and everybody that goes to see this movie in the theater. That's what this world needs more of: heroes.

thanks boys,
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it was a good movie.... it was what it was..... a no brainer horror flick
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Originally Posted by raven56706
it was a good movie.... it was what it was..... a no brainer horror flick
Agreed. Reminded me of all the 1980s slasher movies. Good times. Grade: B+. I enjoyed it much better than Eli Roth's two efforts.
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Agreed. Reminded me of all the 1980s slasher movies. Good times. Grade: B+. I enjoyed it much better than Eli Roth's two efforts.

yeah seriously...... hey if it makes a total of $20 mil then its considered a success..
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I am a wrestling fan, but given WWE's track record (aside from The Rock's stuff) I was going to pass. I actually got dragged to it by non-wrestling fans, and I have to say I thought it was very solid. Agreed that the editing was a little over-the-top, but given that they had such a low budget and those interiors would have gotten awfully stale by the end, I at least understand why they tried. I liked this MUCH better than Hostel or The Hills Have Eyes, and I'm concerned that it's got 0% on RT right now. There's obviously a stigma to a WWE Films movie, but 0% can't be due to the movie itself.
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I'll wait for a DVD rental, but I've always enjoyed mindless slasher flicks.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Goose
I'll wait for a DVD rental, but I've always enjoyed mindless slasher flicks.

I think I'll wait too, who knows, maybe there will be some extra 'unrated' gore the dvd will reinstate.
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it's surprising that people actually enjoyed this. i would have thought a film with 0% fresh would not be liked. guess it is a cable watch for me then.
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Any T&A?
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Originally Posted by Mondo Kane
Any T&A?
Shockingly no. I won't spoil it, there are a few rear shots, but quick cutaways. Coming from a former porn director, it was a big disappointment on that end. There certainly were great possibilities in some scenes, just never happened. That blonde chick was really hot too.
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Following RottenTomatos scale is pointless. 0% is an extreme exaggeration(I mean Uwe Boll films score higher ratings!) and shows you can't always trust RT in the first place.

Especially since when I checked there were only 16 reviews up,thus giving it the 0%. Sure that means critics are not liking it. But that does not mean fans will not like the film. So it's pointless to base a horror film (especially) on what the critics think. They are notoriously hard on horror films..especially slasher films.
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Originally Posted by Julie Walker
Following RottenTomatos scale is pointless.
That's really all you needed to say.
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(Sorry to go off tangent here, but):

hey Julie, or anyone else for that matter, has anyone seen a slasher pic called 'Camp Slaughter' that supposedly is throwback to the slasher films of the eighties,
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Originally Posted by Julie Walker
Following RottenTomatos scale is pointless. 0% is an extreme exaggeration(I mean Uwe Boll films score higher ratings!) and shows you can't always trust RT in the first place.

Especially since when I checked there were only 16 reviews up,thus giving it the 0%. Sure that means critics are not liking it. But that does not mean fans will not like the film. So it's pointless to base a horror film (especially) on what the critics think. They are notoriously hard on horror films..especially slasher films.
that is exactly what i am talking about. considering Uwe scores higher seems to indicate this movie is less than good. what is wrong with RT anyway? it is simply a compilation of reviewers, respected and not so much. why wouldn't you trust it to spend $10 or not?
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that is exactly what i am talking about. considering Uwe scores higher seems to indicate this movie is less than good. what is wrong with RT anyway? it is simply a compilation of reviewers, respected and not so much. why wouldn't you trust it to spend $10 or not?
But if I listened to them I would have missed a pretty damn cool movie. I saw it anyway and it was well worth my 6 bucks (would have been worth 10 too). Horror movies, more than most genres, IMHO tend to differ most from critical reviews. Currently, Hostel is at 60% and The Hills Have Eyes is at 49%. I've seen all three, and I love horror movies, and there is no way those numbers should be that different. If See No Evil was released as a normal slasher without the "WWE Films Starring KANE" attached to it, my guess is that it would be right in line with those two. Personally, I infinitely preferred it to those two films, but either way I think that the reviews for this aren't a true reprsentation.
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I think I'll pass.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=21776
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On RAW just now, they had a video package where they spoiled every single "disturbing" part of the movie.

I cant believe that they just did that.
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Originally Posted by Giles
(Sorry to go off tangent here, but):

hey Julie, or anyone else for that matter, has anyone seen a slasher pic called 'Camp Slaughter' that supposedly is throwback to the slasher films of the eighties,
A friend of mine gave it a semi-positive review at his website. I've yet to see it for myself.
http://www.cinema-crazed.com/camp-daze.htm
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Originally Posted by Julie Walker
Following RottenTomatos scale is pointless. 0% is an extreme exaggeration(I mean Uwe Boll films score higher ratings!) and shows you can't always trust RT in the first place.

Especially since when I checked there were only 16 reviews up,thus giving it the 0%.
Actually:

Critics 0%
Users 53%

I've found the users rating to be a better guide to go by.
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Originally Posted by Giles
(Sorry to go off tangent here, but):

hey Julie, or anyone else for that matter, has anyone seen a slasher pic called 'Camp Slaughter' that supposedly is throwback to the slasher films of the eighties,
Giles....I saw it and didn't care for it too much. The writer/director had trouble deciding if he wanted to make an 80s teen comedy or a horror film. The comedy bits fell flat and some scenes seemed to go on forever. Interesting premise, though. Just not very well executed.

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