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Old 04-21-06 | 10:45 PM
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If you're a horror fan, you have to have seen enough movies to understand the difference between good horror movies and bad horror movies. If horror fans decided to stop rewarding the bad ones, the studios would probably figure out how to make more good ones.
Surely you jest. Bad movies will get made as long as movies are being made, period. Suppose we do what you say, and stay away from bad horror movies. Then the studios will, in general, stop making horror movies, period, until someone takes a chance on one five years from now and it's a big hit. Then you'll find hundreds of copycat films and remakes, with a few genuine good films in there. It's like there for most genres. They're in, then they're out. When they're in, a handful are good, and most are bad.

This also doesn't take into account that some people genuinely like what we consider bad movies. I was talking to someone the other day who said, "That House of Wax movie sure did scare me! I saw it three times!" And no, they weren't talking about the original. I wouldn't see House of Wax if you paid me. But this guy voluntarily saw it three times. So there's no point in telling film buffs to not see bad movies, because movie buffs really only contribute a small portion of a particular film's revenue.
Old 04-22-06 | 12:00 AM
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There are some movies that have great entertainment value and low critical value. And if you are a studio that invested millions of dollars in a lowbrow movie, why screen it to snobby critics? Let the audience decide for themselves.

Besides, the critic will get to see (and bash) the movie anyway, at the movie theaters just like everybody else. And just like everybody else, they'll have to buy a ticket.
Old 04-22-06 | 12:03 AM
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It's very simple. Find a critic with much the same tastes as yourself and you can him/her as a good measure of a film's quality. With films at $10 a ticket, I'd like to hear is the flick worth my time and money first.

Even a critic that you don't agree with can be helpful. Roger Ebert, for example; we don't see eye-to-eye as much as some people, but I like his reviews (the second half of them, anyway - he spends too much time summarizing). I can tell is it something that will interest me based on what he liked and didn't like.

Critcs are a help, not the authority. True, their opinions are worth no more than mine or yours, but since I value some of them and their opinions, they come in rather handy.
I agree.
Old 04-22-06 | 01:21 AM
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So, do you like Uwe Boll or not?
lol, no sir. i love how people hate uwe boll and don't understand that he purposely puts out bad movies because it makes him more money.
Old 04-22-06 | 01:27 AM
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Alrighty, just checking.

Wasn't a law recently passed in the country that he does business that's going to put an end to his little "scam" near the end of this year? I'm almost sure that I read that somewhere a few months back.
Old 04-22-06 | 03:43 AM
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Alrighty, just checking.

Wasn't a law recently passed in the country that he does business that's going to put an end to his little "scam" near the end of this year? I'm almost sure that I read that somewhere a few months back.
yeah, it was passed. he's trying to force like 4 movies to be done at the end of the year. it's gonna be quite funny to see how this turns out.
Old 04-22-06 | 03:48 AM
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What scam was he pulling? I didn't hear about this.
Old 04-22-06 | 04:03 AM
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What scam was he pulling? I didn't hear about this.
Boll is able to acquire funding thanks to German tax laws that reward investments in film. The law allows investors in German-owned films to write off 100% of their investment as a tax deduction; it also allows them to invest borrowed money and write off any fees associated with the loan. The investor is then only required to pay taxes on the profits made by the movie; if the movie loses money, the investor gets a tax writeoff.
But the thing is, he really is this bad of a director. He's not some money-making mastermind like the above poster is trying to make him out to be. He's a smart producer who knows how to exploit a tax loop, but if you've ever read any reports about how he puts together his movies from a creative standpoint, he is the by far the worst (and most incompetent) director in cinema.
Old 04-22-06 | 08:14 AM
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Well screw the studios then. I won't even bother with a film unless I can read at least a half dozen reviews for it. Not that I'm a slavish follower of reviewers or anything. It's just that if I read a bunch of positive reviews, I'll go see it. If the reviews are mediocre, but it's a subject I like, I'll probably go anyway. But if I read a bunch of reviews that call it absolute garbage, then it's probably a good bet i'm gonna pass.

Common sense really.
Old 04-22-06 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by joeydaninja
There are some movies that have great entertainment value and low critical value. And if you are a studio that invested millions of dollars in a lowbrow movie, why screen it to snobby critics? Let the audience decide for themselves.

Besides, the critic will get to see (and bash) the movie anyway, at the movie theaters just like everybody else. And just like everybody else, they'll have to buy a ticket.
Yes. This is why they withheld "Stay Alive," so it wouldn't get slammed by critics who don't appreciate entertaining movies and only want to see snooty art films like "Slither."

That or it sucked.
Old 04-22-06 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Surely you jest. Bad movies will get made as long as movies are being made, period. Suppose we do what you say, and stay away from bad horror movies. Then the studios will, in general, stop making horror movies, period, until someone takes a chance on one five years from now and it's a big hit. Then you'll find hundreds of copycat films and remakes, with a few genuine good films in there. It's like there for most genres. They're in, then they're out. When they're in, a handful are good, and most are bad.
Actually, R-rated horror films tend to be made on a relatively low budget, and tend to be achieve a relatively low box office. The moneymaking scheme for these movies is pretty dependent on hardcore horror fans, who can be more or less depended upon to show up on opening weekend and buy the DVD.

This audience is seen as nondiscriminating. Which is a shame, because if a film had to be good to get this audience to show up, it would create a strong incentive for studios to make better horror movies.

Studios still think their target audiences for comedies are 14 year old boys, which is why they think they can recycle the jokes (these kids haven't seen it before!). Maybe someday they'll figure out why "Wedding Crashers" and "Virgin" banked $100+ million and "Deuce Bigalow 2" barely broke even. Still with DVD sales factored in, Deuce will still make money.
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Well screw the studios then. I won't even bother with a film unless I can read at least a half dozen reviews for it. Not that I'm a slavish follower of reviewers or anything. It's just that if I read a bunch of positive reviews, I'll go see it. If the reviews are mediocre, but it's a subject I like, I'll probably go anyway. But if I read a bunch of reviews that call it absolute garbage, then it's probably a good bet i'm gonna pass.

Common sense really.
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Old 04-22-06 | 02:16 PM
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Maybe someday they'll figure out why "Wedding Crashers" and "Virgin" banked $100+ million and "Deuce Bigalow 2" barely broke even. Still with DVD sales factored in, Deuce will still make money.
Bingo. That's the point. Almost every movie makes money. And executives clearly don't know good from bad. Hence, we will see bad movies being mad until movies no longer exist as a medium.

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