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Old 03-21-06 | 12:17 PM
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also, is there some significance of his cell at Lakhill being V (roman numeral 5) and him calling himself "V"? i know they mentioned the cell V in the movie but i don't think there was any link to his naming himself that even though it is short for Vendetta.

and, what was with the "V" word soliloquy when talking to Evey? i thought that was his thing but he did only use them all there.
Old 03-21-06 | 02:07 PM
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He took on "V" because that was his cell number (by happenstance), was probably known as inmate V fwhile being held in cell V (or 5) and after he was reborn from the flames at Lakehill, he just kept "V" for his non de plume as he embarked on his plan for righting the wrongs of the government on its people with his own radical ideas and execution of plans. What's so hard to "grok" about this?

As to the "V" soliloquy, that's him impressing upon Evey his seriousness, plus having some fun with imparting his own worldview upon Evey. It doesn't mean that he has to artificially interject words that begin with the letter "v" into his speech in order to converse with others.
Old 03-21-06 | 02:44 PM
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and, what was with the "V" word soliloquy when talking to Evey? i thought that was his thing but he did only use them all there.
That was the Wachowski Brothers demonstrating their strong grasp of subtlety. As for the V/5 thing, remember what V says about coincidence.
Old 03-21-06 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Flave
2. the conversion of V from morally ambiguous anti-hero to outright hero;


In the GN he didn't seem to express any remorse for what he did with Evey, furthermore, this movie humanitized him a bit more. The GN kept him mysterious in his behavior, and he almost always spoke in riddles with a tinge of insanity. In fact, you never know if he doing what he does because it is right or if it is just because he is just a crazy terrorist. The movie makes it clear that he is a tormented being and he also seems legitimately shocked/hurt when Evey abandons him with the priest. In short, he is actually likeable in the movie, while in the GN he is quite a bit of an asshole.
Thanks for the clarification! I understand now.
Old 03-22-06 | 05:52 PM
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Saw it and absolutely loved it. Best movie I've seen in a while, definitely better than anything I saw in 2005. Was enthralled from start to finish. The acting was great, the dialog largely superb, and it was very well shot.

Will probably catch this in the theater again, havent' done that since the Aviator.
Old 03-22-06 | 08:26 PM
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Saw it and absolutely loved it. Best movie I've seen in a while, definitely better than anything I saw in 2005.
Really? Cinderella Man, Batman Begins, Sin City, etc... (not to mention the best picture nominees) all inferior eh?
Old 03-22-06 | 09:37 PM
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Really? Cinderella Man, Batman Begins, Sin City, etc... (not to mention the best picture nominees) all inferior eh?
I loved all those flicks (along with Munich, Brokeback etc), but yes I'd put V ahead of it. Simply enjoyed it more. Probably the most I've enjoyed a flick since ROTK.
Old 03-22-06 | 10:20 PM
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Im suprised by the amount of people that have seen this movie and concluded that V is gay.

Not only does he fall for Evey, but it was more than gays getting rounded up into the detention centers. V could have just as easily been Muslim or any other group that wasn't in the good graces of those in power
Old 03-22-06 | 10:49 PM
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Saw this today with my gf. Both of us thoroughly enjoyed it. But yes as others have commented, the commercials are selling it on its action, and thus I was expecting more of it. Great film, I hope there is a special edition DVD with director's cut/alternate ending(s).
Old 03-22-06 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by IMRICKJAMES
Im suprised by the amount of people that have seen this movie and concluded that V is gay.

Not only does he fall for Evey, but it was more than gays getting rounded up into the detention centers. V could have just as easily been Muslim or any other group that wasn't in the good graces of those in power
While I didn't get that impression from the film, that's definitely what I got from reading the comic. Of course, falling for Evey doesn't mean V isn't gay
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There are the theories that V is a woman
Old 03-22-06 | 11:11 PM
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Seen the movie tonight and from I think its pretty overrated here. It doesnt do anything really well. the few action scenes which what are only like 3 action scenes and just involves the same knife action stuff. last one is pretty good. Some parts were kind of dull and I didnt care for V himself.

It wasnt a bad movie but not that good could of been alot better

I would give it a C or 2.5 out of 5
Old 03-23-06 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
Saw it and absolutely loved it. Best movie I've seen in a while, definitely better than anything I saw in 2005. Was enthralled from start to finish. The acting was great, the dialog largely superb, and it was very well shot.

Will probably catch this in the theater again, havent' done that since the Aviator.

Same here. I can't recall a movie from 2005 that I liked better. I went into the movie hoping that it would resemble one of my favorite books, 1984. I was worried that it would have an excess of action in it like the last two Matrix movies, but it didn't. I liked the fact that it had few action scenes, and the action scenes that it did have were great. Also, V was such a cool character. He kinda reminded me of Captain Jack Sparrow.
Old 03-23-06 | 10:18 AM
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Sin City, V for Vendetta, Batman Begins ... Darker comic adaptations are really coming out well on screen (in the right hands, of course).
Old 03-23-06 | 10:36 AM
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Saw this yesterday and thought it was okay. Didn't hate it, but didn't love it. Although I thought Weaving did a good job, I kind of had the same hang up that Ebert had when watching V's speaking parts. They reminded me of the silliest scene in Spider-man (IMO) - when Spidey and the Green Goblin have their conversation and both are behind non-moving masks.

I know the ending was changed so it may not even be a part of the original source material, but was this explained the graphic novel (which I haven't read yet): where does V get all of those Guy Fawkes masks that he sends out to everyone in London? Did he do a massive raid of the Ministry of Forbidden Halloween Costumes?
Old 03-23-06 | 10:49 AM
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The V mask bit isn't included in the graphic novel. I suspect it's one of the scenes in the film that Alan Moore had a problem with.
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where does V get all of those Guy Fawkes masks that he sends out to everyone in London? Did he do a massive raid of the Ministry of Forbidden Halloween Costumes?
This type of question would never have even occurred to me. I guess I just don't question movies like this that much.
Old 03-23-06 | 11:26 AM
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It's funny because I usually overlook non-glaring plot holes and can suspend disbelief (hey, I'm a "24" fan). For some reason, though, that just stuck out to me. I guess because the rest of the movie is somewhat grounded in reality.

Originally Posted by majorjoe23
The V mask bit isn't included in the graphic novel. I suspect it's one of the scenes in the film that Alan Moore had a problem with.
Thanks.
Old 03-23-06 | 11:53 AM
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Well i went to see the movie last Friday and i totally loved it. Being a Brit i got all the references to Guy Fawkes and thw GunPowder Plot. I am still surprised that this film got made at all.....i thought that it would appeal to UK audiences...but maybe not much to the US audience.

I understand why they have tried advertising it and giving the implications that it is more of an action film....but i was glad to see that the story and characters took center stage instead. I can see that a lot of people who only appreciate dumb action movies will feel cheated.....but then it is there loss for not appreciating what is a very well crafted movie.
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Originally Posted by iggystar
I got a hoot a seeing John Hurt play "Big Brother" so to speak!
That wasn't Ian McKellen? Oh man, I swore it was..

So who was in Apt Pupil? McKellen or Hurt? I can't tell them apart.
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Originally Posted by nerdboyrockstar
That wasn't Ian McKellen? Oh man, I swore it was..

So who was in Apt Pupil? McKellen or Hurt? I can't tell them apart.
McKellen is in Apt Pupil.
Old 03-24-06 | 08:43 AM
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That was the Wachowski Brothers demonstrating their strong grasp of subtlety. As for the V/5 thing, remember what V says about coincidence.
"This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is it vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished, as the once vital voice of the verisimilitude now venerates what they once vilified. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin van-guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-à-vis an introduction, and so it is my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V."

That's supposed to be funny. Myself and the two audiences I saw the movie with all laughed.
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I laughed too, but I guess not for the same reason.
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This movie holds up really well on a second viewing, which to me is the best sign that I will not get sick of it. Where I gave a 3% goofiness rating before, I feel it’s actually below 1% with a whopping 99% + kick ass shit.

I actually appreciated the ending this time especially noting
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the public mood building up to it (what with the execution of that little dissident girl) and the fact that beneath the masks were the faces of the dead.


The only thing that disappointed me was that the theater I saw it in had the old previews for X3 and Superman. Ones that I had on my computer 6 months ago. Why wouldn’t WB supply each theater with new previews? Don’t they want to get people more excited about their upcoming titles? Why compile the things if you’re not gonna distribute them?

I was sad that I couldn’t see Juggernaut walking through walls, but then the feature started and eased my woes away…big time.

Goin’ back to Imax tonight.

Oh yeah. Thanks The Bus. I made a little poster for my workspace with that quote. (Did you record that or just watch the movie a million times?)
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I just saw the movie and have mixed feelings.

I thought the acting was excellant.
I thought the action sequences were good.
I thought the story was mangled. Half of the time I honestly had no idea what was going on.... There are points in the movie where the lead detective guy just magically finds things out which really bugged me. Such as the scene with the email. I had no idea what was going on..... At the very end where he gets out of the car...... He did this why? I'm not sure if 30 mins were cut out of this film, or the plot was really just messed up that much.... Had the detectives found things out progressively instead of BIG BAM I FOUND IT I would have enjoyed this movie more.... I thought the lesbian story was un needed. That was just 20 minutes of uneeded rubble. I would have much rather saw more back story on portmans parents and family, or V's.
This movie reminded me of Batman Begins where there was way too much dialoge. The problem with this is you loose people with short attention spans like me. It also doesn't help when characters have deep accents such as some of the characters in this film.... I was lost so many times in this film it wasn't even funny....

I'm hoping there is a directors cut version of this film with a added 30 minutes, and I'll give it another watching....

In it's current form I would give it a C+. While its a good watch I don't think it's worth the price of admission with such a fragmented mess of a story....
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Originally Posted by puddytay
I thought the lesbian story was un needed. That was just 20 minutes of uneeded rubble. I would have much rather saw more back story on portmans parents and family, or V's.
The lesbian story is about the only part of the movie I like. It's essential to V's backstory and moving Evey forward. And it may be more than essential to V's backstory, it's possible it is V's backstory.


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