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Originally Posted by adamblast
Just FYI for fans, Oprah taped a show about Brokeback Mountain yesterday (Thursday 1/19), it's not on the schedule yet, but includes Heath, Michelle, and Jake in the studio.
BTW, I was just reading that Brokeback Mountain has been nominated for 9 British Academy Awards (BAFTA) including Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor, Best Supporting Actor and Best Supporting Actress! The awards are presented February 19th. I haven't been this excited about "awards season" since Philadelphia! |
Originally Posted by Duality
Well, thank you. I still find your Brokeback experience puzzling. How on Earth could you miss the various themes? Your life experience must be fortunate in the extreme. If so, I'm sincerely happy for you. Perhaps you should watch the film again when it hits DVD. Sometimes people are only open to films in the privacy of their homes.
That said, I dont think someone's life experience is necessary in the criticism of this film (or any for that matter). As I said in another post, ive dl'ed the award screener and will watch it again soon. It is true that sometimes I enjoy slower paced movies at home versus in the theater. |
Originally Posted by RockStrongo
I dont think someone's life experience is necessary in the criticism of this film (or any for that matter).
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Originally Posted by Duality
I respectfully disagree. Our life experiences are a key component of how we experience the world in the present moment. Life experience, whether sprinkled with tragedy or fortuitous events, influences our perception of communication directed at us by other people and media (film in this case).
As Ive said before, I believe that film criticism IS mainly subjective (as I believe your last statement indicates), BUT I just dont think its completely necessary. If so, it would exclude any professional critic who hasn't had this life experience from reviewing the film. Technically, I do not have many problems with Brokeback. |
Originally Posted by Duality
I respectfully disagree. Our life experiences are a key component of how we experience the world in the present moment. Life experience, whether sprinkled with tragedy or fortuitous events, influences our perception of communication directed at us by other people and media (film in this case).
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Originally Posted by Duality
Ignorance of history, lack of insight into the "human condition", and absence of the ability to use critical thinking will render a viewer of Brokeback Mountain bored and incapable of appreciating why this film is universally acclaimed as a masterpiece.
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
My life experience has very little to do with why I didn't like Brokeback. It definitely influenced it, though. I just got back from seeing the Family Stone and loved it leaps and bounds more than Brokeback. Is it a better "film" than brokeback? No. But I genuinely enjoyed it and was crying almost to the street outside. THAT, to me, is a movie with impact. Brokeback? None. I've already forgotten it.
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Originally Posted by riley_dude
Which is ashame. But it's great that it IS Impacting a lot of other people.
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
See this is what I don't get. Why is it a shame? What impact SHOULD this movie have had on me? Is there something I should be learning from it? Some way it should change my life? I just don't get it. It's just a movie about two supposed gay guys in the 1960's who are having problems accepting their homo/bisexuality.
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Originally Posted by SMB-IL
No matter what you did...no matter who you are...no matter where you've come from, you can always change...become a better version of yourself.
Is it some big gay secret? |
OK, I just got back from the Ang Lee reception. Lots of stars were there, including Chow Yun-Fat with his shaved head (for his Pirates of the Caribbean role), Jackie Chan, Tony Leung Chiu-wai and others (including Brigitte Lin! how rare).
Talked to Ang Lee briefly (he was being rushed all over the room). He said that he wasn't even sure if he wanted to make another movie after THE HULK, but his father, who never once encouraged him to make films, told him to pick up this project nonetheless (the project being BROKEBACK). But before the shoot was due to start, Ang's father passed away. So Ang used a lot of his emotions to make BROKEBACK. Mandarin is not my best language, so there may be some small inaccuracies :) But he seems very nice from the brief time I spoke with him. |
Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
I just got back from seeing the Family Stone and loved it leaps and bounds more than Brokeback. Is it a better "film" than brokeback? No. But I genuinely enjoyed it and was crying almost to the street outside. THAT, to me, is a movie with impact.
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Originally Posted by Grimfarrow
OK, I just got back from the Ang Lee reception. Lots of stars were there, including Chow Yun-Fat with his shaved head (for his Pirates of the Caribbean role), Jackie Chan, Tony Leung Chiu-wai and others (including Brigitte Lin! how rare).
Talked to Ang Lee briefly (he was being rushed all over the room). He said that he wasn't even sure if he wanted to make another movie after THE HULK, but his father, who never once encouraged him to make films, told him to pick up this project nonetheless (the project being BROKEBACK). But before the shoot was due to start, Ang's father passed away. So Ang used a lot of his emotions to make BROKEBACK. Mandarin is not my best language, so there may be some small inaccuracies :) But he seems very nice from the brief time I spoke with him. |
The film actually doesn't open in Hong Kong until end of February (right before the Oscars), and I'm not sure when it's opening in Taiwan (most likely around the same time). I didn't go to today's screening since I saw it in September, but the general chatter afterwards was quite positive. But then, it's a room full of celebrities, so they're not gonna reflect the general taste of the public.
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
And how is this movie supposed to do that?
Is it some big gay secret? |
Originally Posted by SMB-IL
Not a secret. I quoted your signature back to you because although I see it at the bottom of all of your posts, it never seems to affect you. I've never met you, yet I knew you wouldn't like this movie. The posts you've made about BBM seem to dismiss the film as something that has nothing to do with you or your life. Bottom line for me: the film is about longing; if you can't relate to that because you've either never experienced it or have shut out the possibility, that's the shame.
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I hope the Academy doesn't get cold feet and not award this Best Picture. Then again, I don't see why they wouldn't do so, as it seems that even conservatives are more accepting of this film than others with gay themes.
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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
I hope the Academy doesn't get cold feet and not award this Best Picture. Then again, I don't see why they wouldn't do so, as it seems that even conservatives are more accepting of this film than others with gay themes.
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Originally Posted by RayChuang
I have this feeling that AMPAS voters will give Best Picture to this movie almost by default because it's actually the least political of the movies that can be considered frontrunners for Best Picture Oscar. Movies like Good Night, and Good Luck, Munich and Syriana are just a bit too politically-charged for AMPAS voters, in my humble opinion. :)
I kind of like the fact that aside from Walk the Line, the AMPAS has little choice but to vote for something that will most likely piss some people off. :D |
Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
I kind of like the fact that aside from Walk the Line, the AMPAS has little choice but to vote for something that will most likely piss some people off. :D
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Originally Posted by SMB-IL
Not a secret. I quoted your signature back to you because although I see it at the bottom of all of your posts, it never seems to affect you. I've never met you, yet I knew you wouldn't like this movie. The posts you've made about BBM seem to dismiss the film as something that has nothing to do with you or your life. Bottom line for me: the film is about longing; if you can't relate to that because you've either never experienced it or have shut out the possibility, that's the shame.
I finally had the courage to go see Brokeback Mountain last Saturday. I took one of my friends to see it and she had no idea that the film was about (which I thought to be hilarious), but she ended up enjoying the film whereas I fell in love with it. I went and saw it again on Thursday with my friend from work and she had the same feelings as I did regarding the film. Easily one of the better films of 2005. |
I finally got to see it today. I was surprised, considering it was the second week it's been open in my small minnesota town, that during a matinee, the theatre was packed! I had to sit in the very front, in the sore neck area. I liked it, but it didn't effect me as much as I thought it was. Maybe you guys were right, if you haven't been in love and felt that kind of longing, it just doesn't hit you as hard. :shrug:
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Originally Posted by SMB-IL
Not a secret. I quoted your signature back to you because although I see it at the bottom of all of your posts, it never seems to affect you. I've never met you, yet I knew you wouldn't like this movie. The posts you've made about BBM seem to dismiss the film as something that has nothing to do with you or your life. Bottom line for me: the film is about longing; if you can't relate to that because you've either never experienced it or have shut out the possibility, that's the shame.
It's amusing that because I didn't like this movie, apparently that AUTOMATICALLY means there's something wrong with me. How fucked up is that? |
Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
It's amusing that because I didn't like this movie, apparently that AUTOMATICALLY means there's something wrong with me. How fucked up is that?
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I had read your earlier posts as well digi and, before you had even seen the movie read like you had a pretty good notion that you wouldn't like the movie in the first place.
I do agree wholeheartedly with SMP-IL. |
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