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KnightLerxst 11-05-05 02:32 PM

Highlander: The Source
 
They are filming it now...apparently part of a new "trilogy" Please don't let this totally suck...partially I can live with...but not totally. David Abramovitz, who was responsible for the majority of the scripts on the series is writing this...so maybe there is hope...

http://highlander-thesource.com/

psifreek27 11-05-05 03:24 PM

i love the entire "highlander" world...and duncan kicks ass...so ill watch it...but i agree i hope it isnt "Highlander: Cheesefest"

RocShemp 11-05-05 06:03 PM

Wow! This project still exists? I wonder how much of the previous films they'll ignore this time. ;)

That said, I'll definitely go see it (especially if it's written by a writer of the series). -popcorn-

But if Adrian Paul is back, given his comments after his experience in Highlander: Endgame, I guess he's getting creative control this time. That's good news. :banana:

RocShemp 11-05-05 06:32 PM

Looking at the synopsis

The world is falling into chaos. As he roams a crumbling city, Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander, remembers happier times before the love of his life left... Hopeless and alone, MacLeod finds his way to a band of immortal companions, including his mysterious friend Methos, and a mortal, Watcher Joe Dawson. Together this small group sets out on a quest to find the origin of the first Immortal and The Source of their immortality.
it sorta seems like it takes place after
Spoiler:
Tessa died in
the series and not after
Spoiler:
Connor's death in
Highlander: Endgame.

Fok 11-05-05 06:44 PM

They should of stopped after 1

Joe Molotov 11-05-05 06:56 PM

This series needs to be rebooted.

But I'll still watch this anyway.

RocShemp 11-05-05 07:03 PM

I agree about a reboot but, if done well, this new trilogy might actually be good. Besides, it's not like they have to worry too much about continuity given this series track record.

nemein 11-05-05 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by RocShemp
Looking at the synopsis it sorta seems like it takes place after
Spoiler:
Tessa died in
the series and not after
Spoiler:
Connor's death in
Highlander: Endgame.


Sounds kind of like what they had wanted to do w/ the series but decided not to. One of the commentaries or making of features mentioned something about wanting to turn it into a post apocalyptic setting.

RocShemp 11-05-05 07:20 PM

Some storyboards from the abandonded Peter Briggs script for Highlander: The Source: http://www.dame-mehri.com/UnofficalA...ards/index.htm

Some trivia posted on IMDB (take with a grain of salt):


Joel Soisson's version of the script featured Duncan MacLeod living in a gas station in the middle of the desert, next to a run-down airplane. Also in the script, MacLeod smoked, wore cowboy boots and a hat, and had a pet monkey named Connor.


Peter Briggs wrote a version of the script while the project was still at Miramax. Before writing the script, Briggs re-watched all the "Highlander" movies as well as the TV series, then joined the official Highlander message boards (www.highlander-community.com) and researched what fans wanted in a sequel. He kept his identity secret, but was known to be an insider on the project. He soon became one of the most popular and respected members of the board, and remained so even after he was kicked off the project. It was after he was kicked off that he revealed his identity.
Unless Michael Madsen was to replace Adrian Paul as Duncan MacLeod, I guess it's a good thing Joel Soisson (the writter of Highlander: Endgame) is no longer working on this film. I do wonder if Peter Briggs' script will surface anywhere. His writing has always been very ambitious.

RocShemp 11-05-05 07:34 PM

A discussion of the storyboards, featuring comments by Peter Briggs (under the username Everpresent Scribe), can be found here: http://www.highlander-community.com/...;f=17;t=000763

Jon2 11-06-05 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by nemein
Sounds kind of like what they had wanted to do w/ the series but decided not to. One of the commentaries or making of features mentioned something about wanting to turn it into a post apocalyptic setting.

Yeah, the apocalyptic setting plot point worked really well with the second Highlander movie.


As for Highlander continuity, what continuity? The only way I could watch the sunsequent Highlander movies and TV series was to consider them as some sort of "alternate universe" or "alternate timeline" versions that split off from the original story.

Really, how could they be anything else? (Besides the obvious - bad writing)

In the original it is specifically mentioned that the few remaining immortals would be compelled to travel to a faraway land (New York) and battle until only one was left to collect "the Prize." Which was Connor.

The TV series gave us a few hundred immortals all over the world. And those are just the ones actually shown, if not killed, over the course of the show's modern day timeline. What about all those others, not shown on the series, that the Watchers were watching? There must have been thousands. There were certainly so many the Watchers required a computer database to keep track of them. And just how many Watchers were there? Over the course of the show there always seemed to be several for each immortal.

At any rate, it seemed obvious that the events of the TV series occured sometime prior to the modern day conclusion of the original movie. This certainly gave the TV series a tragic undertone as you knew Duncan's inevitable fate. Probably at the sword of the Kurgan.

This was so obvious, I almost didn't start watching the series. I didn't want to invest any personal time on a continuous basis, in watching a show that seemed to have "downer" written all over it.

Jadow 11-06-05 09:22 PM

No Christopher Lambert, no 10 bucks from me!

Goldberg74 11-06-05 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by Jadow
No Christopher Lambert, no 10 bucks from me!

That same rule applies to Mortal Kombat movies. ;)

candyrocket786 11-06-05 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by Jadow
No Christopher Lambert, no 10 bucks from me!

Jesus... Can he still pass for an immortal?

RocShemp 11-07-05 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by Jon2
At any rate, it seemed obvious that the events of the TV series occured sometime prior to the modern day conclusion of the original movie. This certainly gave the TV series a tragic undertone as you knew Duncan's inevitable fate. Probably at the sword of the Kurgan.

This was so obvious, I almost didn't start watching the series. I didn't want to invest any personal time on a continuous basis, in watching a show that seemed to have "downer" written all over it.

I agree with your views on the movies (I too view them as alternate versions of the same story) but, had you watched the series, you'd know it has zero continuity with the ending of the first movie since Dawson mentions that Connor killed the Kurgan and the show took place in the 90's. The Gathering in the first film concluded in 1985.

Thus the series is also an alternate reality and Highlander: Engame is another splinter story merging elements from the first film with the series but contradicting both.

As for Lambert, I'd love if he returned but he looked godawful in Highlander: Endgame (although he looked just fine in subsequent interviews :shrug: ). If they ever reboot the series or decide to recast Connor in this new trilogy, I vote for Thomas Jane as a new Connor MacLeod.

Xander 11-07-05 09:49 AM

God, the only way I would watch this would be if they PROMISED me that Christopher Lambert was in NO way involved. If there is a worse actor out there, I haven't seen him. I thought the movies sucked in every way imaginable. Thank god the TV series came along and turned the Highlander mythology into something watchable. If this project has Adrian Paul involved and focuses on Duncan McLeod, I would definitely be interested. He is the definitive Highlander for me.

cactusoly 11-07-05 10:54 AM

the original Highlander is one of my fave movies of all time. The sequels have been horrible (especially 2) and the series has been ruined. It would be better if they did a 'do over' like with Batman Begins. This way they could start from the beginning with battles of different immortals over the centuries and concluding with the prize in the final chapter.

RocShemp 04-10-06 02:45 PM

Well apparently filming has wrapped and it's currently being edited to be released sometime this year.

Over at the official message board, it's been mentioned that the writers were forbidden from including Connor (even in flashbacks), this new film is a sequel to Endgame (would be the first time any of the sequels acknowledges a previous sequel, though it will still obviously contradict the first film and the other sequels and series), and it takes place in the near future (but not a Highlander 2: The Quickening type future setting).

TheNightFlier 01-02-07 11:22 AM

Figured I'd give this a bump, here's a rough trailer/footage.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5EzByZleUro

From what I've seen and read it looks promising, but that's what I thought about Endgame.

RocShemp 01-02-07 12:04 PM

Any release date yet?

TheNightFlier 01-02-07 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by RocShemp
Any release date yet?

Glancing over the "official" board, apparently it's anywhere from February-May. I don't see this going to theaters though. I'd be happy with a decent dvd release.

The Valeyard 01-02-07 02:06 PM

Brett Leonard?

Yikes!

KnightLerxst 01-02-07 02:37 PM

I was surprised to find a thread on Highlander: The Source...I was even more surprised to find out that I started it...my mind is going Dave.

I have hopes for this...it seems like they are using Abromowitz's abandoned plot for season 6 of Highlander...

clemente 01-03-07 07:36 PM

I'm looking forward to this - you can even count me in to the small minority who like Endgame. At the very worst, it introduced me to Donnie Yen.

Superman07 02-01-07 11:45 AM

Just came across the trailer and figured I'd do a search over here....turned up this thread.

Really really not what I would consider a trailer. Really weird.

I need more of a trailer that lays out the plot (even though I read it on the web).

Concerned that this will be too much like HL2. Hopefully not though.


Oh, and from the website:

"HIGHLANDER: The Source will be distributed in North America through Lions Gate Films and in 40 foreign territories through the top independent distributors."

Joe Molotov 02-01-07 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Superman07
Concerned that this will be too much like HL2. Hopefully not though.

Half-Life 2? Maybe there a reason it's called Highlander: The Source. ;)

mrhan 02-01-07 12:01 PM

Why does everyone keep hoping there will ever be a good sequel to the first? I liked the first one but every subsequent sequel was horrible. I can't believe I actually watched all of them and more than likely watch this one, too. Why do they keep making them and why do I keep watching them knowing more than likely their going to be bad?

Superman07 02-01-07 04:15 PM

I don't know that I'd agree with that entirely. While I do agree that the first one is by far the best, I would also argue that 3 was much better than 2 and that 4 was better than 3. I felt 4 was the closest thing to 4 in terms of style and feel (story, characters). I think it also did a good job of bringing the TV characters to the big screen (although I still need to finish S5 and watch S6).

Joe Molotov 02-13-07 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by dvdigitall
Highlander: The Source is availale on DVD here http://www.dvdigitall.com/dvd/w11997

Hmmm...


http://www.highlander-thesource.com/news-updates.html
Re: Highlander: The Source

To our faithful fans.

Any version of Highlander: The Source that is currently available is not the final producer’s version of the film. Peter Davis and Bill Panzer of Davis/Panzer Productions, the producers, in conjunction with Lionsgate Entertainment, are presently editing and remixing the film. This final cut will be delivered to Lionsgate on or about March 15, 2007.

Lionsgate will be releasing the film in September, 2007.

Peter Davis

Davis-Panzer Productions

Supermallet 02-14-07 12:25 AM

Final producer's cut, huh? Doesn't sound good.

Fincher Fan 02-14-07 03:28 AM


Originally Posted by candyrocket786
Jesus... Can he still pass for an immortal?

Why not? He looks like he's a thousand years old now anyway...

Superman07 02-14-07 09:31 AM

September? :( I know that's when they've been traditionally released (usually best time anyway), but I was looking forward to spring.

RocShemp 02-14-07 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Final producer's cut, huh? Doesn't sound good.

Tell me about it. The theatrical cut of Highlander: Endgame, flaws and all, was loads better than the producer's cut of the same. I realy wish they had released the theatrical cut or the briefly proposed director's cut (assuming it would have been better).

Joe Molotov 02-14-07 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Final producer's cut, huh? Doesn't sound good.

Yeah, you've got the director of Man-Thing and T-Rex: Back to the Cretaceous helming the movie, and now you've got the producers recutting the film after it's already been finished (and apparently released in some territories), it doesn't sound good at all.

Supermallet 02-14-07 12:10 PM

The problem is, Highlander is a cool mythology, but it's become a total joke due to so many laughable sequels. There's no way the producers can lure in a director that could actually do justice to a Highlander movie. And so they get the director of Man-Thing, and when, shockingly, the film isn't great, they try to recut it to make it better, which will probably just make it worse, because you can't edit shit into gold. And then, when the movie bombs, they use it as justification to not spend money on the next inevitable sequel, which will only be worse.

RocShemp 02-14-07 12:25 PM

They should just reboot this franchise. Take the series and movie characters, tweak them a bit, and do series of films that progress toward the gathering. That way we don't have to deal with the same nagging "but Connor was the last one" problem that has nagged the sequels and series since day 1.

exharrison 02-14-07 12:34 PM

I honestly do want to see this. I was really into the show. Maybe they'll get around to one day putting out the animated show.

Supermallet 02-14-07 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by RocShemp
They should just reboot this franchise. Take the series and movie characters, tweak them a bit, and do series of films that progress toward the gathering. That way we don't have to deal with the same nagging "but Connor was the last one" problem that has nagged the sequels and series since day 1.

Agreed.

TheNightFlier 03-03-07 10:11 AM

A buddy of mine shelled out for the Russian copy. Bunch of us got together a few nights ago and watched it. Good lord, was it bad. This pretty much put the final nail in the franchise's coffin.

Seantn 03-03-07 04:44 PM

Would any amount of "producer's cut" retooling make it better? Or was it the overall quality of performances, storyline, acting, etc... that made it bad, and would remain bad in any version?


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