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Old 10-22-05 | 02:28 PM
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Has anyone tried to make a "Phantom Edit" of Batman & Robin? Sure, it'd be one of the most difficult projects in history, but it'd be awesome if they could pull it off!
Old 10-22-05 | 02:43 PM
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Has anyone tried to make a "Phantom Edit" of Batman & Robin? Sure, it'd be one of the most difficult projects in history, but it'd be awesome if they could pull it off!
It's not possible; there isn't enough good material to cut up. You would end up with the opening titles and the end credits.
Old 10-22-05 | 02:48 PM
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and the end credits.

And not even those if you think listening to the Smashing Pumpkins is akin to hearing the sound a cat makes when someone sits on its balls.
Old 10-22-05 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by scott shelton
And not even those if you think listening to the Smashing Pumpkins is akin to hearing the sound a cat makes when someone sits on its balls.
actually, the opening credit is pretty lame too.

I think, truthfuly, you'd be left with the WB logo. Maybe a shot or two of Uma.
Old 10-22-05 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by scott shelton
And not even those if you think listening to the Smashing Pumpkins is akin to hearing the sound a cat makes when someone sits on its balls.
Good point.

I caught a few minutes of this on cable today (all I could stomach), and it really is one of the worst films I've ever seen, and that includes a bunch of MST3K stinkers. Everything in the film is so overwrought and overdone: the acting, the dialogue, the set design, the lighting, the music, the sound, even the extras work. I find it hard to feel sorry for or forgive Schumacher for this mess; studio interference only goes so far, the rest is the decision of the people working on the set every day. There isn't a moment in the film that feels even close to realistic or true. I think even the most fantastical stories have to have some grounding in reality, but suspension of disbelief doesn't even begin to cover what is shown in this mess.
Old 10-22-05 | 05:25 PM
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I was actually thinking of something just like this thread. I picked up the anthology cause I could score it for cheaper than 3 of the movies and figured b&r would be like a bonus. And so I finally watched it for the first time last week. And you know what? Really, it's not that bad at all. Is it stupid? Yes. Is the acting bad? Mostly. Is Arnold an idiot? Yes. But it all works. It's a silly stupid movie that has fun with the franchise. Actually, with my recent viewings, I think forever is the worst one. With Batman and Robin, there's no doubt that the movie is ridiculous and it is obvious that it is intended to be as such (much like the live action series). Where as forever tries to be serious at times. In batman and robin, when batman tells a stupid joke, it's not in the "batman voice," it's just the regular ol' george clooney voice. As opposed to forever, where kilmer uses the gruff "i'm tortured" voice, even when it's to use a stupid punch line or flirt with chase. I guess people can harp on about how abismall it is, but the way I see it, that's all part of the movie's charm.

Also, to all those who think bane was wasted in the movie. He was done perfectly. Bane is a retard. Yes, I am a big fan of the comics. Yes, I am familiar with his "origin." If by origin, you mean that he was a plot device used to sell comics through batman's breaking by him. Bane was a stupid character, and I relished seeing a movie taking such liberties with him. Anyway, kudos for having the courage to say that Batman and Robin isn't all that bad. Well, it is. But it's supposed to be fun. I'm sorry that people got so ticked that the movie wasn't what they wanted. But you have to judge things for what they are, not for what you want them to be. And this movie is high budget camp at its best.

Lastly, nipples on batsuits. So what? The suits have sculpted muscle on them. SCULPTED MUSCLE. Just to put it in perspective. The police where kevlar vests to protect themselves from gunshots. Do you see sculpted muscle on these kevlar vests? No. And why not? Because it's completely unecessary. Just like a fake nipple. So, before you think that a fake nipple is destroying the integrity of a faux muscle bullet proof vest, think about how stupid that was to begin with, and then see how a dot representing a nipple shouldn't be that big a deal. Because it's not.
Old 10-22-05 | 06:51 PM
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I see the Batman Anthology exactly like the karate kid saga. The first 2 were great, the 3rd was camply but fun, the 4th one was a disaster, but fun to watch now & then. I think of it as a great 2-disc bonus.
Overall it's not a movie I'd watch very often, but it's still an entertaining couple of hours.
Old 10-22-05 | 07:17 PM
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I think this is the only movie I have ever walked out of. I was looking forward to it, like I did with every batman movie, and despite Forever being an immense turd.

About 10 minutes in my head started hurting and I thought I was hallucinating, but the movie just kept going. At 40-50 minutes in I realized I was in a movie theater watching pure shit. I think I left shortly after that.

Giant blur, I know nothing about how the movie unfolds, I just know it might be the worst movie of all time. This movie is a colossal black eye on the batman franchise.
Old 10-22-05 | 07:34 PM
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I was disappointed when I noticed that Batgirl's costume lacked nipples. I said WTF is up with that?
Old 10-22-05 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Doughboy
Thank God WB finally came to their senses and let Chris Nolan make an actual film instead of a toy commercial. Not to mention firing idiots like Jon Peters and Brett Ratner and letting Bryan Singer take the reigns of the Superman series.
Also, Peter's sounded like an idiot producer the way people talked about him in interviews (he was the one who wanted prince, and probably requested that the joker have goons and a big fight every couple of minutes even though, the movie didn't need it.) also if you have seen the kevin smith evening with dvd, Peters is a nutcase.
Old 10-22-05 | 09:36 PM
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His fingerprints are all over the place in this movie, and I think some of them are on Batman's ass at the beginning.

Thank God for Nolan and Goyer.

LOL!!!!!!!!!! Too true! I actually had more of an isssue with the flagrant Bat-Butt shots than I ever did with the nipples on the suits.

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Old 10-22-05 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Fincher Fan
I wonder how much time Schumacher and the costume designer devoted to getting the perfect nipple. Did they try everything from the tiny to the big ol' salami ones? Did they base the nipple design on the personality traits of the character? I hope these points and more are addressed in the commentary and/or documentary.
he says that when creating the batsuit for forever, he and the costume designer didn't realize that putting nipples on the suit would create such a ruckus and that we fan boys should get a life.
Old 10-22-05 | 09:44 PM
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I doubt the bat nipples would have created such a ruckus had the movie had been good. As it is, they were just the poo cherry on the crap cake.
Old 10-22-05 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rypro 525
also if you have seen the kevin smith evening with dvd, Peters is a nutcase.
That spider story is one of the highlights of the disc

On topic: Batman & Robin was on cable today so I thought I would watch it again since I hadn't seen it since it was released in theaters. IMO, it hasn't improved with time. Way too campy. Plus it reminded me that not only were the bat nipples odd but I was disappointed that Batgirl didn't have 'em.
Old 10-23-05 | 01:51 AM
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I was actually thinking of something just like this thread. I picked up the anthology cause I could score it for cheaper than 3 of the movies and figured b&r would be like a bonus. And so I finally watched it for the first time last week. And you know what? Really, it's not that bad at all. Is it stupid? Yes. Is the acting bad? Mostly. Is Arnold an idiot? Yes. But it all works. It's a silly stupid movie that has fun with the franchise. Actually, with my recent viewings, I think forever is the worst one. With Batman and Robin, there's no doubt that the movie is ridiculous and it is obvious that it is intended to be as such (much like the live action series). Where as forever tries to be serious at times. In batman and robin, when batman tells a stupid joke, it's not in the "batman voice," it's just the regular ol' george clooney voice. As opposed to forever, where kilmer uses the gruff "i'm tortured" voice, even when it's to use a stupid punch line or flirt with chase. I guess people can harp on about how abismall it is, but the way I see it, that's all part of the movie's charm.

Also, to all those who think bane was wasted in the movie. He was done perfectly. Bane is a retard. Yes, I am a big fan of the comics. Yes, I am familiar with his "origin." If by origin, you mean that he was a plot device used to sell comics through batman's breaking by him. Bane was a stupid character, and I relished seeing a movie taking such liberties with him. Anyway, kudos for having the courage to say that Batman and Robin isn't all that bad. Well, it is. But it's supposed to be fun. I'm sorry that people got so ticked that the movie wasn't what they wanted. But you have to judge things for what they are, not for what you want them to be. And this movie is high budget camp at its best.

Lastly, nipples on batsuits. So what? The suits have sculpted muscle on them. SCULPTED MUSCLE. Just to put it in perspective. The police where kevlar vests to protect themselves from gunshots. Do you see sculpted muscle on these kevlar vests? No. And why not? Because it's completely unecessary. Just like a fake nipple. So, before you think that a fake nipple is destroying the integrity of a faux muscle bullet proof vest, think about how stupid that was to begin with, and then see how a dot representing a nipple shouldn't be that big a deal. Because it's not.
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