Where the Truth Lies: now NC-17 for an "explicit three way sex scene"
09-09-05, 12:06 AM
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Where the Truth Lies: now NC-17 for an "explicit three way sex scene"
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The producers of director Atom Egoyan's controversial new film Where The Truth Lies have lost their appeal to overturn the restrictive NC-17 rating the movie was awarded. The film, which premieres at the Toronto Film Festival in Canada next week, features a threesome sex scene between Kevin Bacon, Colin Firth and Rachel Blanchard, which censors have deemed "sexually explicit." Thrusting in the scene required the rarely used NC-17 rating, usually reserved for the most overtly controversial movies. The rating means no one under age 17 can see the film in theatres. Egoyan and Blanchard appeared before censors in Los Angeles on Wednesday to boost the appeal but a panel of judges refused to be swayed. Egoyan insists the rating is "an unwarranted response given the story it's telling and the way it needed to be told."
has anyone seen this yet, to see how explicit it really is?
The producers of director Atom Egoyan's controversial new film Where The Truth Lies have lost their appeal to overturn the restrictive NC-17 rating the movie was awarded. The film, which premieres at the Toronto Film Festival in Canada next week, features a threesome sex scene between Kevin Bacon, Colin Firth and Rachel Blanchard, which censors have deemed "sexually explicit." Thrusting in the scene required the rarely used NC-17 rating, usually reserved for the most overtly controversial movies. The rating means no one under age 17 can see the film in theatres. Egoyan and Blanchard appeared before censors in Los Angeles on Wednesday to boost the appeal but a panel of judges refused to be swayed. Egoyan insists the rating is "an unwarranted response given the story it's telling and the way it needed to be told."
has anyone seen this yet, to see how explicit it really is?
09-09-05, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Remember, if there are penises, that automatically pushes it up a notch. And if there's any "gay touching," that would push it into NC-17.
And there are plenty of R rated films with gay touching (your favorite, "Brokeback Mountain" for instance)
09-09-05, 11:22 AM
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As I've said countless times before, it's just a penis. Half the world's population has one and virtually every living, breathing person has seen one at some point. Why the hell is the depiction of an actual male sex organ in a mainstream (or even not-so-mainstream) film production such a huge threat?
But 19 stabbings, 10,000 gunshot wounds and countless other violent acts resulting in graphic death or dismemberment slide by the censors unscathed . . .
But 19 stabbings, 10,000 gunshot wounds and countless other violent acts resulting in graphic death or dismemberment slide by the censors unscathed . . .
09-09-05, 10:34 PM
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from what i have read from the director and what not, this scene is all one take and a pull back, and is crucial to the story and could not be trimmed.
09-10-05, 02:28 AM
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The reason penises and sexuality in general is 'bad',at least in the U.S. Is because we have controlling facists using religion to shame us all and make us feel bad about our normal bodies and sexual functions.
For example,pretty damn graphic violence including grotesque aftermath footage and upclose details of what violent acts do to people can be seen on network tv in the CSI series.
But we still can't show a pair of breasts,or cock..and hell even asses get blurred out most of the time on basic cable/tv!
Why is violence more acceptable than harmless nudity/sexuality???
Until we deal with this reality,things will never change. And that is how certain facists want to keep it!
For example,pretty damn graphic violence including grotesque aftermath footage and upclose details of what violent acts do to people can be seen on network tv in the CSI series.
But we still can't show a pair of breasts,or cock..and hell even asses get blurred out most of the time on basic cable/tv!
Why is violence more acceptable than harmless nudity/sexuality???
Until we deal with this reality,things will never change. And that is how certain facists want to keep it!
09-10-05, 09:31 AM
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The rating is unwarented, though not unexpected, and the hoopla of this is in a word, simply typical.
Because an NC17 rating carries with it some truth that the studio hasn't caved in to an arcane rating system... I consider the rating a badge of pride to be worn proudly.
Considering that movie audience attendence is on the decline and DVD sales and home cinemas are quickly offering a better alternative to high priced sticky seats and dimmly lit screans... I say, keep those NC17s coming.
Jim
Because an NC17 rating carries with it some truth that the studio hasn't caved in to an arcane rating system... I consider the rating a badge of pride to be worn proudly.
Considering that movie audience attendence is on the decline and DVD sales and home cinemas are quickly offering a better alternative to high priced sticky seats and dimmly lit screans... I say, keep those NC17s coming.
Jim
Originally Posted by Rypro 525
from imdb
The producers of director Atom Egoyan's controversial new film Where The Truth Lies have lost their appeal to overturn the restrictive NC-17 rating the movie was awarded. The film, which premieres at the Toronto Film Festival in Canada next week, features a threesome sex scene between Kevin Bacon, Colin Firth and Rachel Blanchard, which censors have deemed "sexually explicit." Thrusting in the scene required the rarely used NC-17 rating, usually reserved for the most overtly controversial movies. The rating means no one under age 17 can see the film in theatres. Egoyan and Blanchard appeared before censors in Los Angeles on Wednesday to boost the appeal but a panel of judges refused to be swayed. Egoyan insists the rating is "an unwarranted response given the story it's telling and the way it needed to be told."
has anyone seen this yet, to see how explicit it really is?
The producers of director Atom Egoyan's controversial new film Where The Truth Lies have lost their appeal to overturn the restrictive NC-17 rating the movie was awarded. The film, which premieres at the Toronto Film Festival in Canada next week, features a threesome sex scene between Kevin Bacon, Colin Firth and Rachel Blanchard, which censors have deemed "sexually explicit." Thrusting in the scene required the rarely used NC-17 rating, usually reserved for the most overtly controversial movies. The rating means no one under age 17 can see the film in theatres. Egoyan and Blanchard appeared before censors in Los Angeles on Wednesday to boost the appeal but a panel of judges refused to be swayed. Egoyan insists the rating is "an unwarranted response given the story it's telling and the way it needed to be told."
has anyone seen this yet, to see how explicit it really is?
09-10-05, 10:43 AM
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I guess my question is. Do you people really want kids going into a movie like this. If you are 18, then who cares what the rating is? This is to stop kids, and I doubt any of you are affected.
09-10-05, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu 17
I guess my question is. Do you people really want kids going into a movie like this. If you are 18, then who cares what the rating is? This is to stop kids, and I doubt any of you are affected.
09-10-05, 01:48 PM
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Since this movie will probably make more money and veiwers on DVD, and seeing how popular those "unrated" DVD's are, i think this NC-17 rating is really a moot point.
09-10-05, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Julie Walker
The reason penises and sexuality in general is 'bad',at least in the U.S. Is because we have controlling facists using religion to shame us all and make us feel bad about our normal bodies and sexual functions.
09-11-05, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu 17
I guess my question is. Do you people really want kids going into a movie like this. If you are 18, then who cares what the rating is? This is to stop kids, and I doubt any of you are affected.
I don't want to live in a world that's been child-proofed. Thank you very much.
Keep that family-friendly crap to yourselves, please.
09-11-05, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by grunter
The "save the childrens" argument is seriously getting old.
I don't want to live in a world that's been child-proofed. Thank you very much.
Keep that family-friendly crap to yourselves, please.
I don't want to live in a world that's been child-proofed. Thank you very much.
Keep that family-friendly crap to yourselves, please.
09-12-05, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dsa_shea
I don't want to see Kevin Bacon's Sausage nor any other guys for that matter.
09-12-05, 02:00 PM
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Production stills: http://www.comingsoon.net/cgi-bin/im...the_Truth_Lies
09-12-05, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dsa_shea
I don't want to see Kevin Bacon's Sausage nor any other guys for that matter.
Is it the "I don't want to get caught looking or I might be considered gay" thing, again?
Or is there some real reason why you cannot bring yourself to look at a natural part of the human body?
I effin' hate that locker room boast bullshit.
09-12-05, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by grunter
Why?
Is it the "I don't want to get caught looking or I might be considered gay" thing, again?
Or is there some real reason why you cannot bring yourself to look at a natural part of the human body?
Is it the "I don't want to get caught looking or I might be considered gay" thing, again?
Or is there some real reason why you cannot bring yourself to look at a natural part of the human body?
09-12-05, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dsa_shea
I don't want to see Kevin Bacon's Sausage nor any other guys for that matter.
That says more than nothing at all.
