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Old 09-08-05, 11:03 PM
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was "the usual suspects" the first story to use a twist ending?

was there a movie (or anything else like tv or book) that used a twist ending before "the usual suspects"?

only other story i think of is 6th sense but that came out after
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no, while its not a movie, you have seen or at least heard of the show dallas right?
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"Twist endings" have been around forever. Psycho is the first film that comes to mind but i'm sure you could find a ton more older than that.
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I'm going to go with "no"

It depends on your definition of a twist ending, but I can think of a handful just off the top of my head that predate The Usual Suspects (including the original Planet of the Apes and Psycho).
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Certainly not. One that comes to mind immediately is Sleepaway Camp. Psycho has been mentioned...and there were others that preceeded it. I do like the question, though. Does anybody know what the first film with a "twist ending" was?

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Originally Posted by Rypro 525
no, while its not a movie, you have seen or at least heard of the show dallas right?
i have only heard of the title but no know nothing else.

could you give quick summary of what twist they did?
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A friend told me that The Empire Strikes Back had a twist ending. Can anyone here confirm that?
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The first one I remember with a twist ending was No Way Out.
I doubt that one was the first either.
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I'd say Oedipus Rex was the first story to involve a twist or at the very least dramatic irony.
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Originally Posted by Brain Stew
I'd say Oedipus Rex was the first story to involve a twist or at the very least dramatic irony.
So, when did that come out? Ancient times, I bet. 1988 or something?
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Originally Posted by Brain Stew
I'd say Oedipus Rex was the first story to involve a twist or at the very least dramatic irony.
Yeah, Whoopie Goldberg was great in that movie.
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could citizen kane count as a twist?
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Every episode of the Twilight Zone.
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Surely there are some twists in the Bible.

"Oh snap!!!! Judas just turned on his ass!"
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Maybe we're all 89 and our memories are... what were we talking about?!
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I'd say Oedipus Rex was the first story to involve a twist or at the very least dramatic irony
Is that the one where Denise Richards dates a dinosaur?
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If you're just looking for a film where it turns out in the end that everything you just watched didn't really happen, how about
Spoiler:
The Wizard of Oz
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In over 100 years of cinema, I doubt a picture released in 1995 would be the first to have a twist.
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Henri-Georges Clouzot's Les diaboliques (1955) went as far as put a warning at the end asking viewers not to reveal the twist to their friends who hand't seen the movie yet.

The Usual Suspects was novel, not in having a twist, but in its magnitude, namely that
Spoiler:
virtually all we've seen onscreen was a lie
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Originally Posted by Count Dooku
If you're just looking for a film where it turns out in the end that everything you just watched didn't really happen, how about
Spoiler:
The Wizard of Oz

I'm just hoping it turns out that everything I just read hadn't happened.
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Originally Posted by her34
was there a movie (or anything else like tv or book) that used a twist ending before "the usual suspects"?






The answer: YES
The entire premise of the mystery genre is built on it - books and film. And well before 1995, too.

Yep, you will find more twists and turns than you can shake your very young stick at.

I suggest you read Shirley Jackson's The Lottery. A classic short story first published in June of 1948.

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was there a movie (or anything else like tv or book) that used a twist ending before "the usual suspects"?
No, there wasn't. It was also the first movie to be shot in color and have sound.
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The Cabinet of Dr Caligari (1920), is the earliest film I can think of with a twist ending.
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no, while its not a movie, you have seen or at least heard of the show dallas right?

i have only heard of the title but no know nothing else.

could you give quick summary of what twist they did?
Bob Newhart wakes up at the end and it is revealed the entire show was just a dream.

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