Go Back  DVD Talk Forum > Entertainment Discussions > Movie Talk
Reload this Page >

Does the Tech inconguence from PT to OT bother you?

Community
Search
Movie Talk A Discussion area for everything movie related including films In The Theaters
View Poll Results: Does the Tech inconguence bother you?
Very much! What with the adobe hut with automatic doors?
7
14.89%
A little! But it's just a movie and can't be avoided
12
25.53%
I have no opinion. I am teh suck lord.
0
0%
Not at all! I'm just enjoying the movies without worrying about that crap.
21
44.68%
I prefer it this way! I worry about other stupid questions, but not yours!
7
14.89%
Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll

Does the Tech inconguence from PT to OT bother you?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-23-05 | 11:15 AM
  #1  
kvrdave's Avatar
Thread Starter
DVD Talk God
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 86,231
Received 44 Likes on 26 Posts
From: Pacific NW
Does the Tech inconguence from PT to OT bother you?

This is one reason I hated to see a prequel at all. I would have rather seen eps 7-9. Okay, I know it is just a movie, but I still have a problem with the idea sometime over about 20 years, the population that make up the Empire, et. al., go from flashy ships, flashy clothes, flashy cities, to suddenly living in adobe huts with automatic doors. There are numerous examples, and it certainly isn't limited to SW. Obviously at some point between now and Jim Kirk's enterprise we develop a distrust of digital clocks and go back to analog scrolling wheels for our instruments.

But does this hamper your enjoyment of the movies and the mythos? It does me. It shouldn't, and if Lucas made the prequel of the same quality as the originals, it would have been laughable, so there isn't a good answer.

Anyway, hamper enjoyment or not?
Old 05-23-05 | 11:19 AM
  #2  
Groucho's Avatar
Moderator
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 71,383
Received 130 Likes on 92 Posts
From: Salt Lake City, Utah
It was kind of funny when they went on Bail Organa's ship, to see the 1977 set design. Real mismatch between that and everything else.

The real technical incongruity? How come the best (presumably) OB-GYN on Corsucant can't figure out that Padme is having twins, but a droid on a remote mining colony can figure it out immediately?
Old 05-23-05 | 11:21 AM
  #3  
Banned
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,220
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Doesn't really matter. After the Empire takes over it all hits the fan and there's no more flashy ships and all that shit anyway. I think it plays well all together.
Old 05-23-05 | 11:23 AM
  #4  
Groucho's Avatar
Moderator
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 71,383
Received 130 Likes on 92 Posts
From: Salt Lake City, Utah
BTW, if you consider the "Knights of the Old Republic" video games as canon, technology in the "Star Wars" universe hasn't changed in at least 4000 years.
Old 05-23-05 | 11:39 AM
  #5  
Mopower's Avatar
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 15,725
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
From: The Janitor's closet in Kinnick Stadium
Originally Posted by Groucho
It was kind of funny when they went on Bail Organa's ship, to see the 1977 set design. Real mismatch between that and everything else.

The real technical incongruity? How come the best (presumably) OB-GYN on Corsucant can't figure out that Padme is having twins, but a droid on a remote mining colony can figure it out immediately?
The last thing she wanted to do was go to a doctor then others would find out. But you'd think they would have some home twin test or something by then.
Old 05-23-05 | 11:49 AM
  #6  
kvrdave's Avatar
Thread Starter
DVD Talk God
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 86,231
Received 44 Likes on 26 Posts
From: Pacific NW
Originally Posted by QuiGonJosh
Doesn't really matter. After the Empire takes over it all hits the fan and there's no more flashy ships and all that shit anyway. I think it plays well all together.

I've considered that. Still bothers me, but obviously I let stupid stuff like this get to me. IT'S A FREAKING ADOBE HUT!!!!
Old 05-23-05 | 11:56 AM
  #7  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 23,225
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: Plano, TX
It's just one of the things that are going to come up when you make movies sequentially connected 20+ years apart.
Old 05-23-05 | 12:01 PM
  #8  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 8,572
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: Philadelphia
Originally Posted by kvrdave
I've considered that. Still bothers me, but obviously I let stupid stuff like this get to me. IT'S A FREAKING ADOBE HUT!!!!
I assume you are talking about Tatooine.

IIRC Tatooine is never really a member of the Republic or the Empire, but just a planet full of poor people and outlaws. The tech there is primative for that reason and doesn't really change much in the OT.

Other than that, we only see Hoth, the moon of Endor and Cloud City. There is a noticeable difference as Groucho mentioned, but not a HUGE one when you consider most of the locations in the PT aren't shown in the OT and vice versa.
Old 05-23-05 | 12:19 PM
  #9  
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,707
Received 73 Likes on 43 Posts
It doesn't really bother me because Coruscant is probably the flashiest, high tech planet in the prequels, but since Coruscant isn't shown in the OT it doesn't really matter. Some of the small things like the computer image of the Death Star in A New Hope bother me a little but not enough to make me like the movies any less.
Old 05-23-05 | 12:53 PM
  #10  
OldBoy's Avatar
TOTY Winner 2018 and Inane Thread Master
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 54,171
Received 1,734 Likes on 1,421 Posts
From: "Are any of us really anywhere?"
i think you saw the natural progression from ep 1 to ep 3 and how much ep 3 looked like ep 4. the muted colors, the first designs of the tie fighters, x-wings, and storm troopers. it all became toned down and more dirty, more mechanical rather than fanciful- war will do that. it made things more indestructible and plain, rather than penetrable and beautiful as seen in ep 1 and 2.
Old 05-23-05 | 12:58 PM
  #11  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Apr 1999
Posts: 14,259
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
From: Docking Bay 94
I think Lucas did a great job of making sure that the tech in the PT blended into the tech of the OT. So, instead of bothering me, it actually adds to the enjoyment.
Old 05-23-05 | 01:04 PM
  #12  
milo bloom's Avatar
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 19,005
Received 1,672 Likes on 1,209 Posts
From: Chicago suburbs
Originally Posted by bboisvert
I think Lucas did a great job of making sure that the tech in the PT blended into the tech of the OT. So, instead of bothering me, it actually adds to the enjoyment.

I gotta agree with this, and Groucho & Brain Stew have really good points. The only thing that really bother me were some of the dodgy matte FX in the OT, which I have to admit look better in the SE's. The SE's would be great if they had been strictly "cosmetic" changes.
Old 05-23-05 | 01:05 PM
  #13  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 9,334
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Chicago, IL
Actually while things may look better due to the advances in fillmmaking, the technology is still below that of the OT.

Check out the shells! that come out of the big turrets on the captial ships. Now we don't see those in action in the OT, but I'm guessing it was meant to show some inferior technology. I thought that it was pretty cool.

Most of the OT is spent in backwater places - Tatooine, Hoth, Dagobah.
Cloud City got a nice makeover in the SE's and the DVDs to make it look like a developed part of the universe.
Old 05-23-05 | 01:08 PM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 704
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by bboisvert
I think Lucas did a great job of making sure that the tech in the PT blended into the tech of the OT. So, instead of bothering me, it actually adds to the enjoyment.
agreed.

the emperor is using the galaxy for his own ends. if everything was rich and flashy and comfortable under the Empire why would there be a rebellion? everything imperial is clean and tidy where as the rebellion is a rag-tag group of people and equipment, exactly like it should be.

the flashy ships and bright colors all add to the overall picture of peace and harmony that slowly errodes into the Empire which is ruled by dull color and feels gloomy. works pretty well in my mind
Old 05-23-05 | 03:41 PM
  #15  
Member
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Shermer, Illinois
What's up with R2-D2 being able to fly and fart oil, yet all he can do is wobble around about 20 years later?

Oh yeah, and howcome Padmé is in so much pain giving birth... don't they have epidurals?

Last edited by krunchyfrogg; 05-23-05 at 03:43 PM.
Old 05-23-05 | 03:55 PM
  #16  
DVD Talk Godfather
 
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 54,199
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: City of the lakers.. riots.. and drug dealing cops.. los(t) Angel(e)s. ca.
well... he is now a 20 year old robot. I'm pretty sure that would be like a record player trying to play a DVD.
Old 05-23-05 | 04:34 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 999
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Groucho
It was kind of funny when they went on Bail Organa's ship, to see the 1977 set design. Real mismatch between that and everything else.

The real technical incongruity? How come the best (presumably) OB-GYN on Corsucant can't figure out that Padme is having twins, but a droid on a remote mining colony can figure it out immediately?
Even better... How can a JEDI, who can sense lifeforms and know when an enemy or friend is near, not sense two lifeforms within Padme?
Old 05-23-05 | 04:37 PM
  #18  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,262
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Phoenix AZ - West Side
Originally Posted by krunchyfrogg
What's up with R2-D2 being able to fly and fart oil, yet all he can do is wobble around about 20 years later?

I forget where, but I seem to recall it being stated that Anakin equipped R2 with a lot of the optional extras. Since he became Vader (Should I have spoiler tagged that? ) he no longer had R2, and as such, couldn't fix/repair the stuff once it broke. Since Anakin was never formally trained in robot construction, I guessed R2 was a bit hodge-podge, so others may not have been able to fix the rigging that Anakin did on him.
Old 05-23-05 | 04:40 PM
  #19  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 9,975
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: Ottawa
Originally Posted by Tigger
Even better... How can a JEDI, who can sense lifeforms and know when an enemy or friend is near, not sense two lifeforms within Padme?
This is going to turn into an abortion thread now.
Old 05-23-05 | 05:08 PM
  #20  
caligulathegod's Avatar
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,901
Received 74 Likes on 45 Posts
From: Grove City OH
The biggest difference in the PT and OT technology is that the droid armies were dismantled and replaced with clones. Take out the droid armies and the cities/planets we never saw in the OT and there isn't that much difference. Lars and Beru were living in adobe huts in the PT.
Old 05-23-05 | 05:20 PM
  #21  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 11,818
Received 380 Likes on 287 Posts
From: Seattle, WA
Stuff like the ships control panels do bug me - hope they update some of them for the next round of OT DVD's.(along with the lightsabers)
Old 05-23-05 | 07:04 PM
  #22  
kvrdave's Avatar
Thread Starter
DVD Talk God
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 86,231
Received 44 Likes on 26 Posts
From: Pacific NW
Originally Posted by Artman
Stuff like the ships control panels do bug me - hope they update some of them for the next round of OT DVD's.(along with the lightsabers)
That's my pet peeve as well. Just like the analog clocks on the original Enterprise.
Old 05-23-05 | 07:45 PM
  #23  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 9,617
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
From: not CT
Originally Posted by kvrdave
That's my pet peeve as well. Just like the analog clocks on the original Enterprise.
But a Lincoln Navigator has an analog clock in the dash ... it's a sign of luxury.
Old 05-23-05 | 10:29 PM
  #24  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 6,268
Likes: 0
Received 15 Likes on 9 Posts
I actually liked how the ship at the end
Spoiler:
with Vader and the Emporer
had the same look as the OT, down to the 70's tech large blinking color computer tech.

What bugs me is that the clone army go from efficient troops to useless fodder in episode IV.
Old 05-23-05 | 11:08 PM
  #25  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 729
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by clemente
I actually liked how the ship at the end
Spoiler:
with Vader and the Emporer
had the same look as the OT, down to the 70's tech large blinking color computer tech.

What bugs me is that the clone army go from efficient troops to useless fodder in episode IV.


That is one of my pet peeves as well, just what the hell happened to the clone troopers in 20 years , they fell so far down the ladder that savages with rocks could beat them.

As for the technology, I think it blended very well, Episode 1 was sparkling, II more of the same, III though and things were starting to look like Episode 4 stuff, I really liked the retro star destroyer designs.


Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.