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Goat3001 06-10-05 09:58 PM

Here's the simplest answer:

He changed his name to Ben Kenobi because he was going into hiding. Kind of a witness protection thing. The reason Lucas didn't change his last name was so Luke would be able to think of Old Ben when he hears Obi-Wan in the message. Had he changed his name to Ben Smith then Luke wouldn't think Ben Smith when he heard Obi-Wan Kenobi on the hologram message.

Ruderic 06-11-05 11:28 PM

Like Kenobi said...."You eyes can deceive you"

so all he had to do was change his first name.

GuessWho 06-12-05 12:35 AM


Originally Posted by Softkore
To RoboDad and anybody else who wants to know
The books I voguely mention in my last Quote were the first three in the classic star wars series, First being called "In Deadly Pursuit," second "The Rebel Storm," and third is "Escape to Hoth"
so there's the books that are directly relented to movie and connecting the gap between Ep 4 to Ep 5.
anybody got any more question?

those aren't novels... they were just collections of the daily star wars comic strips that appeared in newspapers

The Cow 06-12-05 12:57 AM


Originally Posted by Ruderic
Like Kenobi said...."You eyes can deceive you"

so all he had to do was change his first name.

His name is never in writing in the movies. Your eyes would never have seen it.

Softkore 06-15-05 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by GuessWho
those aren't novels... they were just collections of the daily star wars comic strips that appeared in newspapers

First of all they are collections of just comics (that are issued monthly) not comic strips (which are daily three to five panels in the comic section of a newspaper), and just so you a collection of comics is called a graphic NOVEL but call it what you feel like.

GuessWho 06-15-05 08:18 PM

Your books are collections of the Classic Star Wars comic books...

...which were collections of the daily 3-5 panel comic strip that DID run in newspapers in the late 70s by Russ Manning and early 80s by Goodwin & Williamson


Dont trust me? Do you trust Dark Horse?

From 1981 to 1984, comic-book greats Archie Goodwin and Al Williamson turned out a popular series of Star Wars newpaper strips. Featuring the adventures of Luke, Leia, and Han in the time between the first and second movies, these strips were science-fiction adventure at its best.

Dark Horse reformatted those strips to make them work as a continuous story in a series of comic books
http://www.darkhorse.com/profile/profile.php?sku=45-043

Scans of strips
http://www.evan.org/swc/swc.htm


Next time, save your smartass underlining and giant fonts, you're wrong on this one junior. Your graphic novels are just a collection of strips (which, by the way, conflict with the Marvel comic books which detailed inbetween-movie action--none of it is canon).

bboisvert 06-15-05 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by Softkore
First of all they are collections of just comics (that are issued monthly) not comic strips (which are daily three to five panels in the comic section of a newspaper), and just so you a collection of comics is called a graphic NOVEL but call it what you feel like.

rotfl

As GuessWho says, these are just collections of Goodwin/Williamson newspaper strips that ran in the 1980s. (A few of the redundant panels have been removed to help the story 'flow' better.)

They collected all of the strips in their entirety in a limited hardcover set -- something I'd recommend to anyone who finds these enjoyable.

Fun stuff, but nothing that is considered canon except by the most lienient of fans.

Softkore 06-16-05 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by GuessWho
Your books are collections of the Classic Star Wars comic books which were collections of the daily 3-5 panel comic strip that DID run in newspapers in the late 70s by Russ Manning and early 80s by Goodwin & Williamson

Dont trust me? Do you trust Dark Horse?
http://www.darkhorse.com/profile/profile.php?sku=45-043

Scans of strips
http://www.evan.org/swc/swc.htm

Your graphic novels are just a collection of strips (which, by the way, conflict with the Marvel comic books which detailed inbetween-movie action--none of it is canon).

I can admit when I'm wrong and I was (partly) but they were still turned into graphic novels, so let's call it a draw

danicus007 06-16-05 07:27 PM

One thing everyone is forgetting is that The Emperor and Vader think Obi-Wan is dead. The clone troopers that shot him down think that he's dead and I'm sure reported that to the emperor.

GuessWho 06-16-05 07:48 PM

draw :up:

Class316 06-17-05 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by danicus007
One thing everyone is forgetting is that The Emperor and Vader think Obi-Wan is dead. The clone troopers that shot him down think that he's dead and I'm sure reported that to the emperor.

huh? Vader dueled with Obi Wan and I'm sure he would have said something to Palpatine.

SuprVgeta 06-27-05 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by bboisvert
Vader is "obsessed" with finding Skywalker (as mentioned in the ESB crawl). There is *no way* Vader doesn't know that he's his son by the time ESB begins.

Maybe he's obsessed with finding him because the little bastard sent him spinning off into space in his little spacecraft and blew up the Empire's ultimate weapon (The Death Star) and Vader wants to get revenge on him?

Class316 06-27-05 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by SuprVgeta
Maybe he's obsessed with finding him because the little bastard sent him spinning off into space in his little spacecraft and blew up the Empire's ultimate weapon (The Death Star) and Vader wants to get revenge on him?

Vader also remembers his former last name.

mikehunt 06-27-05 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by danicus007
One thing everyone is forgetting is that The Emperor and Vader think Obi-Wan is dead. The clone troopers that shot him down think that he's dead and I'm sure reported that to the emperor.

yeah they probably thought he was dead
until palpatine comes and finds anakin with no legs and only one arm

Qui Gon Jim 06-28-05 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by GuessWho
Your books are collections of the Classic Star Wars comic books...

...which were collections of the daily 3-5 panel comic strip that DID run in newspapers in the late 70s by Russ Manning and early 80s by Goodwin & Williamson


Dont trust me? Do you trust Dark Horse?
http://www.darkhorse.com/profile/profile.php?sku=45-043

Scans of strips
http://www.evan.org/swc/swc.htm


Next time, save your smartass underlining and giant fonts, you're wrong on this one junior. Your graphic novels are just a collection of strips (which, by the way, conflict with the Marvel comic books which detailed inbetween-movie action--none of it is canon).

QWNED!

muiaucht 07-01-05 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by MartinBlank
Is it just me or is it funny to refer to Vader as "Annie"?

Annie is short for anakin retard!

muiaucht 07-01-05 01:26 AM


Originally Posted by Hospitaller
there is a book that i believe is from the 80s or late 70s called Splinter of the Mind's Eye or something like that. I think its supposed to take place between the original Star Wars and Empire, and has among other things the first lightsaber fight between Luke and Vader.

But after that corny Thrawn trilogy ill never read anymore star wars books. the movies have enough silliness for me... Darth Plagius? wtf

A book? oh come on. seriously. i can't believe you actually read a star wars book. those stupid things were written for the soul purpose of trying to earn money. you know how popular star wars was? some redneck with a beer gut probably said " Why is George Lucas earning all the money and i'm Not? *burp*" " Hey Steve, I think I'm going to make up my own star wars story in book form" " I didn't know you were literate Bob!"*burp*" I'm not!" *fart*" What's literate Steve?" " I Dont Know Bob...." *burp* *fart* *burp*

a few years later....

muiaucht 07-01-05 01:39 AM


Originally Posted by RoboDad
Could you tell me what those books are? The only novels I am aware of that take place between ANH and ESB are Splinter of the Mind's Eye, Ruins of Dantooine, and the Bounty Hunter Wars. I've read Splinter, and don't recall any such revelations in that book, but I'm not sure about the others.

NOOOOOO! Stay in the Light! do not stray! The books are EVIL! EVIL! Stick to the movies, they are good.do not follow the ways of stupid made up books or comics or lego's! The movies are what is good! Turn back my son! Turn back! :saber:

muiaucht 07-01-05 01:49 AM


Originally Posted by Softkore
To RoboDad and anybody else who wants to know
The books I voguely mention in my last Quote were the first three in the classic star wars series, First being called "In Deadly Pursuit," second "The Rebel Storm," and third is "Escape to Hoth"
so there's the books that are directly relented to movie and connecting the gap between Ep 4 to Ep 5.
anybody got any more question?

I do. and it's "Why, Lord, Why? I mean, next theyll be calling Lady and the Tramp 2 a disney classic! at least that was made by the same company but this.... OH THE INHUMANITY! WHAT IS OUR WORLD COMING TO!! Are there any REAL Star Wars fans out there anymore?"

danicus007 08-17-05 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by mikehunt
yeah they probably thought he was dead
until palpatine comes and finds anakin with no legs and only one arm

Wow I hate to bring back a thread that died over a month ago, but I have to just apologize for my retarded statement that Vader and The emp think Obi Wan is dead. I seriously don't know what the hell I was thinking. Sorry about that.

Fincher Fan 08-18-05 06:45 AM

Here's the official cannon straight from Lucas' mouth. When Obi-Wan first went into hiding he ditched his last name and simply became known as Benny From the Block. After a failed music and acting career he became an violent alcoholic and starred in numerous porn films. By now a withered, old man Benny, shortened to Ben after critical backlash, turned to hard drugs such as heroin and cocaine and quickly injected what little was left of his wealth into his veins. When even viagra couldn't save his sinking career, Old Ben (as he was now jokingly referred to) sold his remaining possessions and was last seen running off into the Tatooine desert screaming like a banshee. He was never seen again.

namrfumot 08-20-05 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by Fincher Fan
Here's the official cannon straight from Lucas' mouth. When Obi-Wan first went into hiding he ditched his last name and simply became known as Benny From the Block. After a failed music and acting career he became an violent alcoholic and starred in numerous porn films. By now a withered, old man Benny, shortened to Ben after critical backlash, turned to hard drugs such as heroin and cocaine and quickly injected what little was left of his wealth into his veins. When even viagra couldn't save his sinking career, Old Ben (as he was now jokingly referred to) sold his remaining possessions and was last seen running off into the Tatooine desert screaming like a banshee. He was never seen again.

:lol: VERY well written

ben12 08-24-05 01:54 AM


Originally Posted by muiaucht
NOOOOOO! Stay in the Light! do not stray! The books are EVIL! EVIL! Stick to the movies, they are good.do not follow the ways of stupid made up books or comics or lego's! The movies are what is good! Turn back my son! Turn back! :saber:

The "Tales of the Jedi" comics are good...


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