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Old 03-19-05 | 10:33 AM
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Well, as far as I've read, they've been developing ways to take a 2D live action film and convert it into 3D. I haven't actually seen one successfully done, but I imagine they're getting there.
...take it from me: there is NO way on earth 'they' can ever "take a 2D live action film and convert it into 3D." 'They' can fake it, by providing the viewer with special glasses, but that is all they can do (and the result is disappointing, to say the least - as well as painful for the eyes)...

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Old 03-19-05 | 10:34 AM
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I found this picture funny for many reasons..Geeks in 3d!!!! Is that Bill Gates off to the left??


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Old 03-19-05 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Hendrik
...take it from me: there is NO way on earth 'they' can ever "take a 2D live action film and convert it into 3D." 'They' can fake it, by providing the viewer with special glasses, but that is all they can do (and the result is disappointing, to say the least - as well as painful for the eyes)...

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Click the link to the Yahoo News article in post 13.

Apparently this new method shouldn't result in eye strain. Those who saw some of the scenes from Star Wars also seemed quite impressed by the depth of the image.

It's still nothing more than a gimmick to me though.
Old 03-19-05 | 12:33 PM
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Click the link to the Yahoo News article in post 13...
...well... I'll believe it when I see it...

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Old 03-19-05 | 01:16 PM
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I can't believe I am about to write this: From "Star Wars" in 1977 to "Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope" in 1981 to "Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope: The Special Edition" in 1997 to "Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope: The Special Edition: DVD Version" in 2004 to "Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope: The Special Edition: Ultimate 3D Version" in 2007. What. A. Joke.
Old 03-19-05 | 01:55 PM
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Somehow I'm not surprised Lucas is getting sh*t on the most, even though Cameron, Rodriguez, and Zemeckis are pushing this just as much. In fact, Cameron is pushing it the most. Yet Lucas takes the beating. I wonder why!

Lucas is such a loser.
Some joe chatting on an internet message board calling a multi-billionaire filmmaker and businessman a loser!

Let me ask you a simple question. Why are you so interested and so attached to what Lucas does? Do you plan your life around what some filmmaker you don't even know does? For the life of me, I'll never understand why people are so personally interested and involved what Lucas does?

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Old 03-19-05 | 02:03 PM
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Somehow I'm not surprised Lucas is getting sh*t on the most, even though Cameron, Rodriguez, and Zemeckis are pushing this just as much. In fact, Cameron is pushing it the most. Yet Lucas takes the beating. I wonder why!
Terrel, two things, first: I'm an old school fan myself (born in 74, been there from the beginning), second: I usually agree with your SW arguments*, I just don't post in SW threads a lot (I probably should though).

But here I have to agree with the others: Lucas has shown a precedent for this kind of thing before. Never satisfied with what a lot of people considered perfection for 20-some years. This just seems like another thing in a long list of grievances people have with Lucas for whatever reasons. I have to agree that it does seem kinda gimmicky, and I thought Lucas was going to get away from SW for a while after ROTS. I was really looking forward to seeing his "little art films" and this just seems like something else to take time away from that.
I'm not too interested in seeing older films by the others in 3D either, so I'm not playing favorites.

Now, if Lucas wants to film Eps 7-9 and they happen to be in 3D, well...




*your LOTR comments however are a bit high-blood-pressure-inducing.





Let me ask you a simple question. Why are you so interested and so attached to what Lucas does? Do you plan your life around what some filmmaker you don't even know does? For the life of me, I'll never understand why people are so personally interested and involved what Lucas does?
Because he does interesting things. Sorry, but when people get into an artform that involves mass showings to the public, then you become a public figure, that's just the sad truth of celebrity and art and the bastard child that combination creates. Now, I hate paparazzi, they should all be hung by their genitals and flogged, but if you're in the public eye, you can't expect to live a normal life.

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Old 03-19-05 | 02:12 PM
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Now, if Lucas wants to film Eps 7-9 and they happen to be in 3D, well...
Um, you obviously didn't watch 60 minutes did you milo? Lucas has already put this to bed. There will be no more Star Wars films, ever. Leslie Stahl even asked you, you are without a doubt shutting the door on new Star Wars films, with no wiggle room. He stated absolutely.

I have to agree that it does seem kinda gimmicky
I would agree, but according to reports from Showest, the presentation of this technology was pretty incredible. If Cameron, Lucas, Zemeckis, and Rodriguez are behind it, there has to be at least a little something to it.

and I thought Lucas was going to get away from SW for a while after ROTS.
Milo, people assume that Lucas is going to be heavily involved in the process and be involved with it for years. I doubt this is the case. The company that would do this was named in the article. Lucas probably wouldn't be involved much at all. He'd send the films to be remastered to the company that specializes in it. Lucas wasn't all that involved in the restoration of the films for DVD. He wasn't involved much in the production of the DVD. Maybe that was why there were some glitches in that DVD.

Just because Lucas is doing this, doesn't mean he's spending the next 7 years with Star Wars. He'll probably have plenty of time for his art films. He's already mentioned he'll be producing some film about black pilots in WWII.
Old 03-19-05 | 02:16 PM
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Why I point a finger at Lucas and laugh is because all the other directors cited are working on NEW 3-D projects. Lucas is the only one to say, "Hey, yah, let's go back and do it to Star Wars!" I mean, for god's sake man, change the fecking record!

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he'll be producing some film about black pilots in WWII.
In 3-D ...
Old 03-19-05 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Terrell
Um, you obviously didn't watch 60 minutes did you milo? Lucas has already put this to bed. There will be no more Star Wars films, ever. Leslie Stahl even asked you, you are without a doubt shutting the door on new Star Wars films, with no wiggle room. He stated absolutely.

Let me have my dreams Terrell, let me have my dreams...

Old 03-19-05 | 02:17 PM
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I found this picture funny for many reasons..Geeks in 3d!!!! Is that Bill Gates off to the left??

I think the guy on the far left is either:

1. Taking a break before filming the next Cheech & Chong movie.
2. Wanted in 15 states.
Old 03-19-05 | 02:18 PM
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Anybody still kinda want to see what Blue Harvest could be? Horror beyond your imagination might be interesting in 3D.
Old 03-19-05 | 02:20 PM
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Because he does interesting things. Sorry, but when people get into an artform that involves mass showings to the public, then you become a public figure, that's just the sad truth of celebrity and art and the bastard child that combination creates.
But see milo, you're much more reasonable and pragmatic about this situation. You didn't get mad about this news. I mean some guy literally called Lucas a loser, which is funny coming from chatters on chat rooms, and got mad about it.

It's okay to be interested in a filmmaker's work, but to get so attached to a filmmaker that you get mad at certain things he does, it is a bit much. These kinds of people don't have much to worry about.

Besides, there are many, many more filmmakers out there doing interesting things beside Lucas. These people don't have to invest so much of their time in on filmmaker. There are lots of them. Me, I just defend Lucas when people make such outlandish claims and criticize him in unfair ways. It's probably something I should learn to stop doing. Maybe I need to invest more time on a hobby.
Old 03-19-05 | 02:23 PM
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By the way milo, you're probably too sane to get involved in Star Wars threads all that often. Those threads are where we lunatics hang out.
Old 03-19-05 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason
As a person who wears glasses, I am really not to thrilled with this. Those cheapo paper 3D glasses are never big enough to fit over my glasses and never small enough to fit under them.
Old 03-19-05 | 03:41 PM
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Don't see David Lynch playing about with gimmicks like 3-D do you?
Old 03-19-05 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Hendrik
...take it from me: there is NO way on earth 'they' can ever "take a 2D live action film and convert it into 3D." 'They' can fake it, by providing the viewer with special glasses, but that is all they can do (and the result is disappointing, to say the least - as well as painful for the eyes)...

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Well, 3D is still about special glasses and and special methods. Yes, they can convert a 2D movie into 3D, as if you do some more reading on this very presenation, you'll know they showed 8 minutes of a New Hope in 3d, along with clips from Lilo and Sticth, LoTR and Attack of the Clones. Is it true 3D, ala holographic projection? No, but nobody said it was. I don't know how the tech works, but I doubt these guys would be presenting it (and getting some rave reviews) if it didn't look pretty damn good.

If you've seen these converted 3D films, I'm all ears to what you think of the quality. And then compare it to Imax 3D. But saying it's impossible when it's already been done is...obviously incorrect. Wearing glasses isn't "faking" the process.
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...erm... a 2D image is a single (=one) 2D image... for an image to be 'real' 3D (i.e. stereoscopic), you actually need two almost-but-not-quite-the-same images, one for the left eye, one for the right eye,
(for instance: Columbia's Miss Sadie Thompson, Warner's Dial M For Murder, MGM's Kiss Me Kate) and... oh, but why am I going on like this... fuggetit!

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Old 03-21-05 | 11:30 AM
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Great news! Now we can get that 3-D version of Howard The Duck that we've all been clamoring for.
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Great news! Now we can get that 3-D version of Howard The Duck that we've all been clamoring for.
No, it's the next generation. . . Jar-Jar in 3D!

Actually I am intrigued by the technical aspects but unfortunately am jaded by the usual Lucas-bashing.
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Originally Posted by Hendrik
...erm... a 2D image is a single (=one) 2D image... for an image to be 'real' 3D (i.e. stereoscopic), you actually need two almost-but-not-quite-the-same images, one for the left eye, one for the right eye,
(for instance: Columbia's Miss Sadie Thompson, Warner's Dial M For Murder, MGM's Kiss Me Kate) and... oh, but why am I going on like this... fuggetit!
And you don't think they can simulate this with CGI?
Old 03-22-05 | 12:09 AM
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Aww yeah...pretty soon...."Captain EO" in glorious 3D on DVD!!!
Old 04-11-05 | 03:51 PM
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from DVDfile.com...

"In related Star Wars news, reports are popping up all over the net about an amazing development. A company called In-Three located in Agoura Hills, California has perfected image-processing software it calls the Dimensionalization Process. It's apparently capable of transforming 2-D images into 3-D images. So impressive is this technology that at ShoWest last week, a panel of prominent filmmakers appeared to announce embracing the process. The panel was hosted by Business Development Manager for TI DLP Cinema Doug Darrow and composed of filmmakers George Lucas, James Cameron, Robert Zemeckis, Robert Rodriguez, and Randall Kleiser.

The panel presented a collection transformed 3-D clips from Attack of the Clones, A New Hope, and several other films. Reports from the show indicate that the 3-D effect is very impressive and very natural. Lucas announced that he plans to re-release the entire Star Wars saga - all six episodes - in 3-D starting in 2007 with A New Hope on its 30th anniversary; he then plans to re-release one transformed Star Wars film in each succeeding year. And Lucas was reported to have said that he wants to convince Steven Spielberg to shoot the fourth (and presumably last) Indiana Jones film in 3-D.

The other filmmakers are embracing 3-D for new productions. Cameron (who has released two IMAX films in 3-D) is in preproduction on a 3-D film called Battle Angel, scheduled for a 2007 release. Zemeckis has two 3-D features in production (The Polar Express was released in IMAX 3-D). Rodriguez is in postproduction for The Adventures of Shark Boy & Lava Girl, a 3-D film set for summer release. And rumor has it that Peter Jackson may shoot The Hobbits (the prequel to the Ring trilogy) in 3-D; he's reported to have installed a 3-D master suite in his production offices in New Zealand. Since ShoWest is a venue to reach exhibitors, the panel seemed to be reaching out to the community, encouraging them to install the digital cinema products that would support these new 3-D presentations.

The impact of this development on Home Theater is no less significant. HD's 720p60 (or perhaps better yet, 1080p48) is a logical choice for conveying of high-resolution 3-D images to the home. All that's needed is a fast display with low image lag and synchronized LCD glasses for a full color presentation. HD-DVD and Blu-ray Disc could be a wonderful source of high-resolution 3-D images, and I suppose it might be equally possible to create 3-D images in a similar manner with standard resolution progressive video (480p60). But very likely, to support 3-D will require firmware changes in the players.

The potential for such remarkable technology coming to Home Theater relatively soon is truly impressive, but I can't help wonder if 3-D might be withheld from the consumer market. 3-D might turn out to be the filmmakers' last remaining lure to tempt us to shut our DVD players off and draw us back into the motion picture theater. Then again, I suppose this could be the foretaste of high definition double-dips to come: buy the 2-D HD-DVD or Blu-ray Disc now, and be expected to buy the 3-D version later."
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Wow......I just happened upon this topic.........Wow, I am calling all my dork friends!!!!

This is a perfect excuse to rerelease any SW movies!!! YEAH!
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Lucas said he hopes eventually to release all six of his "Star Wars" movies in 3-D format that can be shown in regular moviehouses, not specialty theaters such as IMAX.

"It looks better than the original, to be honest with you," Lucas told theater owners Thursday at their annual ShoWest convention.
Does Lucas even remember what the originals look like???


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