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Superboy 02-10-05 05:22 PM

The one and only "I hate Star Wars" thread!
 
You know that other Star Wars hype thread is just brimming with positive energy! I'm just brimming with fear, and fear leads to anger, and anger leads to hate, and hate leads to suffering!!!! so here, post everything you hate about Star Wars!

You know what really irks me? when Obi-Wan deflects Count Dooku's force lightning in Episode II. Yet later, he somehow forgets to give Luke this handy little tidbit. It would have been great to hear: "Hey Luke, before you face down this master of absolute evil with unimaginable power who has abilities that are far beyond your reach and understanding in a battle in which you will decide the fate of the entire galaxy, by the way, you can deflect his death lightning with your lightsaber. Just so you know."

Trigger 02-10-05 05:30 PM

worst. thread. ever.






j/k ;)


So, really assuming this thread flies with the mods - I love Star Wars (hopefully this isn't seen as a threadcrap) the original trilogy, although I realize they aren't the best movies ever. I do loathe the new trilogy, but am hopeful for the final installment. Being a realist though, I can't see it being much better.

Numanoid 02-10-05 05:33 PM

I think this thread sums it all up: http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=409162

Superboy 02-10-05 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by Trigger
worst. thread. ever.






j/k ;)


So, really assuming this thread flies with the mods - I love Star Wars (hopefully this isn't seen as a threadcrap) the original trilogy, although I realize they aren't the best movies ever. I do loathe the new trilogy, but am hopeful for the final installment. Being a realist though, I can't see it being much better.

DOOD What kind of crazy ass threadcrapper are you! I mean Episode III will be sooo stupid! why not just call General Grevious what he really is: Captain Loser McEvil!

Cygnet74 02-10-05 07:21 PM

thank you for starting this thread. gives us a place to express our disappointment with the prequel trilogy without being told I'm not welcome. so here's a big concern for me: I am seriously afraid that the two minutes of Darth Vader scenes toward the end of ROTS will be mishandled in the usual manner that Lucas has handled much of the last two films, putting a blight on an otherwise legendary character.

jaeufraser 02-10-05 07:23 PM

Ok, I'll add what I don't like about Star Wars.

I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.

Kal-El 02-10-05 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by Superboy
You know what really irks me? when Obi-Wan deflects Count Dooku's force lightning in Episode II. Yet later, he somehow forgets to give Luke this handy little tidbit. It would have been great to hear: "Hey Luke, before you face down this master of absolute evil with unimaginable power who has abilities that are far beyond your reach and understanding in a battle in which you will decide the fate of the entire galaxy, by the way, you can deflect his death lightning with your lightsaber. Just so you know."

Well for starters, I don't think Obi Wan knew at the time he did that that he could do it. He was probably as surprised as you were. He was just good in hiding it. ;)

As for the advice to Luke, I guess the better one would be, "NEVER throw away your lightsaber just as you're about to face down this master of absolute evil with unimaginable power who has abilities that are far beyond your reach and understanding in a battle in which you will decide the fate of the entire galaxy. That whole 'I am a Jedi like my father before' me speech you've been practicing lately is fine, but like I told your daddy, 'your lightsaber is your life'. He never listened to me and look what happened. *gestures around him* I kicked his ass."

:D

Sessa17 02-10-05 08:35 PM

I don't hate Star Wars (well the new ones I despise), I just hate the annoying fans -ptth-

Kerborus 02-10-05 09:56 PM

I hate Star Wars bashers. Does that qualify? ;)

Ok, ok - I do dislike the over-use of Jar Jar in the first movie. I also disliked that Darth Maul had hardly any lines.

Terrell 02-10-05 10:17 PM


I don't hate Star Wars (well the new ones I despise), I just hate the annoying fans
I hope you realize that the fanatics make up a very small majority of Star Wars fans. They're just the loudest. Every big franchise has fanatics. Star Wars, Star Trek, LOTR, and Matrix all have their fanatics.

As for this thread, about all I can add is I hate Jar-Jar and Jake Lloyd's performance. That's about it. Otherwise, I love Star Wars.

cactusoly 02-10-05 10:18 PM

:whofart: Some people really do need to get a life.

DonnachaOne 02-11-05 01:12 AM

<marquee>PAGING RIVERO... PAGING RIVERO...PAGING RIVERO... PAGING RIVERO... PAGING RIVERO... PAGING RIVERO...</marquee>

Cameron 02-11-05 01:38 AM


Originally Posted by Sessa17
I don't hate Star Wars (well the new ones I despise), I just hate the annoying fans -ptth-

what you mean these guys

http://krautboy.tripod.com/sitebuild...starwars45.jpg

better ones in the link above


I love Star Wars...I love the Prequals....I love George Lucas

ILikeDVD 02-11-05 02:29 AM

Mods, close this thread.

joeydaninja 02-11-05 02:49 AM

if we posted "I hate the Star Wars prequels" in the other threads, we would've been accused of threadcrapping, so we might as well have our own thread.

Superboy 02-11-05 03:11 AM

Wow, some people's sarcasm detectors aren't quite up to snuff. I guess the line about General Grevious wasn't enough.

Anyway, I'm tired of people who incessantly bitch about how bad Star Wars. Alright, we get it, you hate that rotten little bastard from Episode I that ruined the entire movie for you (Anakin or Jar Jar, take your pick). It's not as if someone's making you go see Episode III, and if you feel that George Lucas owes the world something, then you are perhaps in need of moving out of your parents basement, getting a real job, and growing up.

AGuyNamedMike 02-11-05 07:04 AM

I don't hate Star Wars, it's fans, or even eps 1 & 2. I'm a sw geek myself, and I'll be at Celebration 3 this year. Jar Jar made me cringe, but then so did the ewoks, the ugnaughts, and the dianoga in the trash compactor. Anyhow, I am tired of people who incessantly bitch about anything.

chess 02-11-05 07:47 AM

Other than Jar Jar and the Gungans, who I simply loathe, The prequels have been fine so far. Not the second coming of anything really, just decent little space adventure flicks. I'd put each of them on par with an average episode of Farscape, but with far far worse acting.

And in retrospect, were the originals really that good? No, we were just young.

wendersfan 02-11-05 07:52 AM

I liked <b>The Empire Strikes Back</b>. I hated all the others, including the original one. I think Lucas is a hack director who had one really brilliant idea, and since he's a great businessman, milked that idea for billions of dollars.

huh? 02-11-05 09:16 AM

I like star wars. I don't think they are the best movies ever, but I'd rather watch any of the star wars movies for mindless entertainment than most of the other films that are shoved down my throat. I can see why some people hate the new ones. I won't defend them, but I happen to like them.

ivelostr2 02-11-05 09:25 AM

so, let me get this straight. If i come here and say, "Star Wars is great, I love it" is that thread crapping?
Because technically this is a thread created for crapping, so if i say something good then Im the asshole...

chess 02-11-05 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by ivelostr2
so, let me get this straight. If i come here and say, "Star Wars is great, I love it" is that thread crapping?
Because technically this is a thread created for crapping, so if i say something good then Im the asshole...

yes.

Fok 02-11-05 10:51 AM

Jar Jar Binks comes to mind and the shit acting from that little kid who played Anakin in Ep1. Some of changes that Lucas made for the DVD release of the original trilogy were pretty shit.

Michael Corvin 02-11-05 11:23 AM

There is only one thing that irks me about star wars. Jar-Jar? No, he is tolerable. Jake Lloyd? Nope. Tolerable as well.


Medichlorians

Just ruins the magic and mystery of the force and Jedis. The backbone of the saga. I think future releases should excise any reference to it, ala Highlander 2 and the "from another planet" BS.

Cygnet74 02-11-05 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Just ruins the magic and mystery of the force and Jedis. The backbone of the saga. I think future releases should excise any reference to it, ala Highlander 2 and the "from another planet" BS.

in regard to midichlorans in Episode III:

Spoiler:
it was leaked that as Padme is about to give birth, Qui-Gon appears to Yoda and relays that he had a hand in the twins conception via midichlorians. so... they're back.

chess 02-11-05 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by cygnet74
in regard to midichlorans in Episode III:

Spoiler:
it was leaked that as Padme is about to give birth, Qui-Gon appears to Yoda and relays that he had a hand in the twins conception via midichlorians. so... they're back.

I think Luke said it best when he said..."NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" :eek:

Josh H 02-11-05 01:12 PM

I liked the midichlorians for one reason. It should up all the bible thumping star wars fans who were always saying crap about the force being "god." :D

Terrell 02-11-05 01:20 PM


I think Lucas is a hack director who had one really brilliant idea, and since he's a great businessman, milked that idea for billions of dollars.
I was going to let this go, but someone has to shoot ridiculous statements like this.

- Created ILM, Skywalker Sound, LucasArts, and Pixar
- Pro Tools, Avid, non-linear editing
- Pioneer in digital filmmaking
- Directed THX-1138, American Graffiti, Star Wars, and really directed most of ROTJ
- Nominated twice for Best Director
- Star Wars and American Graffiti nominated for Best Picture
- Created, wrote, and produced the Indiana Jones trilogy and Willow

Now how many hack directors have directed two Best Picture nominees and received two noms for Best Director? How many have created two trilogies the likes of Star Wars and Indy? I don't know of any. Maybe you're talking of Uwe Boll or Stephen Sommers, because you sure aren't talking about Lucas. So he made two films you didn't like. That hardly means he's a hack.

Go here for an education on Lucas and his work.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr...ent_id=2094216

Terrell 02-11-05 01:24 PM


Wow, some people's sarcasm detectors aren't quite up to snuff.
I thought you might have made this thread out of sarcasm, but on the internet, you can't ever tell. You just never know. :)


I think Luke said it best when he said..."NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
Yeah, people who hate midichlorians are really going to hate Episode III. Besides, I've always maintained that if you hated the first two, there's not a chance in hell you'll like Episode III. So why waste your money. ;)

talemyn 02-11-05 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by chess
And in retrospect, were the originals really that good? No, we were just young.

http://www.mindspring.com/~boycekb/i...s/Applause.gif

Thank you . . . it's always nice to find people who are willing to recognize that fact.

UAIOE 02-11-05 03:05 PM

I never liked "Star Wars".

Its not that i "hate" the movies, they just don't do anything for me.

I tried watching the first one (not Episode 1) when the trilogy was released on VHS (before DVD the SE movies) and i couldnt get excited about any of it.

I saw bits of the movies when i was younger, i like sci-fi movies, but the movies just do not do anything for me.

wendersfan 02-11-05 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Terrell
I was going to let this go, but someone has to shoot ridiculous statements like this.

I've seen every picture Lucas has directed. Hell, I've seen all but one of them in their original theatrical release, so I'm quite familiar with his body of work. I don't like any of the movies he's made. I think he's a hack director. However, I think he's an absolutely brilliant producer, and a tremendous businessman. ILM, Pixar, etc. are tremendous achievements, but founding ILM doesn't make one Alfred Hitchcock, it makes one Walt Disney.

That Lucas is a hack director is my opinion, but be assured that it's my <i>informed</i> opinion.

BTW, Ron Howard has won or been nominated for all kinds of directorial awards, and I think he's a hack, too. In case you weren't aware, the awards AMPAS hands out every year mean nothing to me.

Terrell 02-11-05 03:56 PM


And in retrospect, were the originals really that good?
Yes, the original SW trilogy was indeed that good. You don't achieve what that trilogy did simply because of innocence or youth. However, I've never bought into this tearing down the originals to make the prequels look better, or make them not look so bad. The prequels are not bad films. They're just not as good as the originals and that irks a lot of people. You might not think the original trilogy is any good, but I'd have to disagree wholeheartedly. :)

Star Wars and Empire are great films. Perfect? No! I've never seen a perfect film. If I really want to, I can nitpick even the greatest film. Return of the Jedi is not a great film. But I think it is a good to very good film, and very entertaining. Whatever the case, it beats the pants off of 90% of the crap that gets released today.


I think he's a hack director.
With all due respect, you can think anything you want. That's your perogative. It doesn't make you right though.


but founding ILM doesn't make one Alfred Hitchcock
Um, where did I ever equate Lucas with Hitchcock? Stick to the discussion at hand. Better yet, forget the discussion. I'm done. I proved my point, and since I know I'm right, I'll leave it at that. ;) Besides, I'm not big on people chatting on internet forums calling successful filmmakers and multi-billionaires hacks to begin with.


I never liked "Star Wars".
I don't think anyone will ever brand you a pariah because of that fact. ;)

Cygnet74 02-11-05 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by wendersfan
That Lucas is a hack director is my opinion, but be assured that it's my <i>informed</i> opinion..

completely agree. the man, as a director (which does not reflect on his abilities as producer, Terrell) is average at best... just barely competent.

Terrell 02-11-05 07:16 PM


is average at best... just barely competent.
Sorry cygnet, you're wasting your breath on me, because that's nonsense as far as I'm concerned. The man that directed THX-1138, American Graffiti, and Star Wars is far, far beyond barely competent. Many directors would give their left arm to direct three films like that, much less create and Indiana Jones. Hell, the man that directed TPM and AOTC is far beyond a hack. A hack is someone that has no talent whatsoever in their field. You sure as hell couldn't say that about Lucas with a straight face. Now, if he had never directed a good film, you might could say that. But that's not the case. As far as I'm concerned, he's never even come close to directing a truly terrible film. Whatever! I'm blowing hot air for no real reason.

I've presented my evidence to back it up. End of story. But, people can believe what they want. Just don't come at me with that hack crap. ;)

Maybe you'd like the resume of a true hack.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0093051/

Cygnet74 02-11-05 08:04 PM

actually a hack is define as "mediocre and disdained", or average and lacking respect. he excels as a producer, but when it comes to working with actors and and composing mise en scene, he's merely competent. i'm sure many producers would give their right arm to have his career, but i've never met another filmmaker that includes Lucas' directing as a major influence.

jarofclay73 02-12-05 03:50 PM

I hate in Star Wars when they say, "May the Force be with you." Either you GOT it or you DON'T! Saying, "May the Force be with you" to Han isn't going to give him any more Force power! -wink-

conscience 02-12-05 03:54 PM

Boring overhyped movies.

I fell asleep in Episode 1 and that was against overly loud fat people. :)

cactusoly 02-12-05 06:48 PM

:yack:

Kerborus 02-12-05 10:52 PM

cygnet - where has it been revealed that midichlorians have returned? Source?

Also, Lucas is far from a hack director. He invented the modern action/adventure movie which every director tries to emulate (and fails most times) to this day.


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