There is a growing sentiment on these boards that Martin Scorsese will take home his first Oscar for The Aviator, moreso for his legacy than for the film's merits vis-a-vis his body of work.

That being said, does anyone even remotely think that Epiosode III will have a snowball's chance in Hades of being similarly considered next year on the same premise for George Lucas?

Now I realize there is going to be a poopload of invective towards Mr. Lucas, or me for suggesting their bodies of work are comparable, so please none of that.

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Hell no. The Academy will never reward the industry's biggest Independent Film Maker.

I do not.

I'd have to agree that George forfeited any chance of Best Director when he shunned the mainstream long ago.

Now for technical achievements he may get a lifetime when he's 90.

Unless the third film is a significant improvement over the last two, I doubt he'll be considered for Best Director.

"Faster and more intense" doesn't earn you an Oscar.

No. Even though I didn't much care for The Aviator, I'm sure it'll be 100 times better than Episode 3.

I thought this thread was going to be about Voldemort getting an Oscar.

Uwe Boll?

i agree. I think his reputation as a poor director is what will keep his colleagues from nominating him, not because he's an "independent filmmaker". how could that be a factor if you consider that every director nominated this year worked on a largely indepentantly-financed production. and of the Best Pictures, only Finding Neverland came thru the studio system. [link]

No, but the film might get one for visual effects since the last two didn't.

It's still very early and I'm only speculating, but Episode III will probably receive nominations for all the technical awards (Sound, Visual Effects, Sound Editing), and maybe the usual John Williams nom for score. I don't see it getting anything outside of the usual technical fields though, even cinematography and editing might be a stretch.

He's not going to get a best director nod. You see, Scorcese is thought to get one, but he's very different then Lucas. Scorcese is a man who has made some films that are considered classics, and has lost the best director's trophy what, four or five times? People think he has deserved one throughout the years.

Lucas, while he has been nominated twice for American Graffiti and Star Wars, isn't really much of a director. He's directed 5 major films, 3 of which are Star Wars films. He had a 20 year gap where he directed basically nothing, and did lots of other things. While I could see Hollywood bestowing lifetime achievement awards (in fact, I don't doubt he's gotten that type) Lucas isn't really perceived as a truly amazing director simply because of his lack of output, but more as a giant contributor to film in general, both in technical fields and with stories.

Not to mention, the prequels aren't nearly as well received as Scorcese's current films. While one can argue The Aviator or Gangs of New York are not up to his previous work (I would argue that too) there is obviously a lot more going on than Lucas' prequels, which many enjoy (I think AoTC is a lot of fun) but have some rather glaring flaws nonetheless. He's more of a talented visual director these days, imo.

Hell, I don't think Scorsese will even win best director this year, although it's possible. But I would consider it a minor upset. Eastwood's cleaning house with the DGA and Golden Globe among others

Lucas is more likely to get an honorary Oscar somewhere down the line.

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What he said. He gives the finger to the system because of what he wont put infront of his film. So no way will they give him an oscar..


BUT, they will eventually give him this..

sums it up.

i wish i thought of that.

I think you've got to be kidding yourself if you think that's the reason why. Perhaps if Lucas had a film that was really deserving of the honor this might be a discussion, but the prequels are hardly films that would ever be considered for the award of best director. Unless Episode 3 turns out utterly magnificent, it just wouldn't even be considered (nor deserved really). I enjoyed the hell out of AoTC, but I know it's not deserving of any of these awards. If Lucas makes a film that seems like an Oscar worthy picture, then let's have this discussion again. Then we can gage whether him being independant or following certain rules make much of a difference. Considering A New Hope was nominated for best picture, best director, and best screenplay and won myriads of other awards, I don't think what he puts in front of his picture really matters all that much.

Granted, he wasn't independant at that time, but let's see Lucas make a film worthy of a best director nod before we come up with reasons why they're not nominating him. I suppose Episode 3 could be that movie, but let's be realistic...I expect it to be one of the best times in the theater this year, but I don't expect it to be something that would ever be considered for a best director award.

That's one of the many reasons. But to be honest, Episode III isn't Oscar material to begin with.

I just don't feel the need to post every single reason why because 2005 just started Oscar potential films aren't for another 9 months away. Who knows what will be out there in the front running.

I was simply expanding on what a previous poster mentioned.

But if you want to expand on the discussion, I feel he is much better fit to recieve a life time achievement award or honoary award because of his impact in film. from FX advancement to Sound advancement and always pushing the envelope in the technology used in just about every film now a days. Director is pushing it simply because the amount of films he has done and what kind of films they were.

He should be happy with his 2 noms... that's as close as he'll ever get.

i've lived in LA and worked in this industry for nearly 10 years and I have never once heard any high ranking studio goon badmouth Lucas b/c he's given the finger to the system. this "rebel-status" is not what will keep him from being awarded an oscar for directing. first, he'd have to get nominated by fellow directors who are more likely to vote based on the "ideals" of their profession.

I'm speaking more on the grounds that he's not even in the DGA because he wont put credits infront of his films. No one is going to bad mouth him because of his other achievements in the industry, but I doubt a group of his peers will ever nominate him or give him a win. Especially for the star wars films. While I'm not saying they are bad, I will say that they are not Oscar material for Best Picture or Director. Visuals and audio's are better choices.

Also with it being released during the first half of the year, there will be many more Oscar worthy films by the end of the year.

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