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Old 02-01-05 | 10:33 AM
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i might see it for the hell of it plus
"It's really brutal and there is stuff in it, we have a really, really hot sex scene with Lokken where she is completely naked."
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Looks like Uwe Boll is finally figuring out how to get audiences into the seats
Old 02-01-05 | 11:01 AM
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Wow, just watched the trailer. It doesn't look terrible, in the same way House of the Dead and Alone in the Dark do. It actually just looks really boring. Like there's absolutely nothing special about it, in a good OR bad way.
Old 02-01-05 | 11:31 AM
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It doesn't look terrible, in the same way House of the Dead and Alone in the Dark do.
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Old 02-01-05 | 11:43 AM
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http://www.uweboll.com/

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Old 02-01-05 | 12:10 PM
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Horrible. Alone in the Dark looks a lot more interesting.
I read somewhere that Kingsley was excited to do the project. Something it fitting in very well with the time frame and story. He could just be blowing smoke.
Old 02-01-05 | 12:19 PM
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this looks more like a b movie gone extremely bad..... i feel bad for ben kingsley
Old 02-01-05 | 12:35 PM
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the trailer looks SO BAD!!!! i cant believe Uwe Boll is still making movies. who lets this guy get movies made? the movie looks so cheap and dialouge seems awful. the production qualitie seems like a bad straight to video movie. Plus why is bloodrayne set in the 1600's?

it would of been much cooler to be set in the 1930's like the first game and deal with nazis like the game did. the only thing that this movie follows is the name and the outfit. And isnt wierd to see that kind of outfit in the 1600's that she is wearing?

Uwe Boll is the WORST filmaker in decades
Old 02-01-05 | 01:25 PM
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Anyone who says Boll is the worst filmmaker etc... have you seen more than exactly one or none of his movies? He's made like 9 films... seen any of those? As I've said in the other thread - he's not bad enough to be the worst or most anything. He's unremarkable except for the fact that he's so enthusiastic about his own films when they fail to live up to his own hype. There's plenty of films in theaters that suck worse than anything Boll could direct.
Old 02-01-05 | 01:41 PM
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Between this and Thunderbirds, they should demand Ben Kingsley's Oscar back.
Old 02-01-05 | 02:05 PM
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just think......2 years ago he was nominated for an oscar.....


god this movie sucks fat ones
Old 02-01-05 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Trigger
Anyone who says Boll is the worst filmmaker etc... have you seen more than exactly one or none of his movies? He's made like 9 films... seen any of those? As I've said in the other thread - he's not bad enough to be the worst or most anything. He's unremarkable except for the fact that he's so enthusiastic about his own films when they fail to live up to his own hype. There's plenty of films in theaters that suck worse than anything Boll could direct.
Well, if you want to be completely honest he's one of the worst. I can't think of many films that reach the utter terribleness of House of the Dead. Perhaps Mortal Kombat Anillhilation or...err...Universal Soldier: The Return (actually, that's not QUITE as bad as these). But, yes, he really is that bad. You're entitled to your opinion, but I seriously cannot think of very many films at all that are this bad. If you can give me some examples, I'm all ears, because my list is very short of films that even come close to being as terrible as his.

Paul Anderson may be a bad filmmaker, but he ain't got nothin on Boll.

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Old 02-01-05 | 06:44 PM
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Mortal Kombat Anillhilation and others are bad movies but they are watchable, but so far the Worst movie i have ever seen is House of the dead
Old 02-01-05 | 06:57 PM
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Mortal Kombat Anillhilation and others are bad movies but they are watchable, but so far the Worst movie i have ever seen is House of the dead
Ha, well, I think we're just splitting hairs there. If you find MK2 watchable, you're probably just drawing on something in its premise that you like, rather then it executing it properly. I love zombie films, and I find films that are so bad they're funny amusing to watch, so really I can watch both. Though, HoTD is a bit more funny in my opinion and it's a zombie movie, so I'd much rather watch it.
Old 02-01-05 | 07:21 PM
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Well, if you want to be completely honest he's one of the worst. I can't think of many films that reach the utter terribleness of House of the Dead. Perhaps Mortal Kombat Anillhilation or...err...Universal Soldier: The Return (actually, that's not QUITE as bad as these). But, yes, he really is that bad. You're entitled to your opinion, but I seriously cannot think of very many films at all that are this bad. If you can give me some examples, I'm all ears, because my list is very short of films that even come close to being as terrible as his.

Paul Anderson may be a bad filmmaker, but he ain't got nothin on Boll.
Roland Emmerich? Cutthroat Island?
What about Wing Commander?
What about Queen of the Damned?
What about Dr. T and the Women?

I don't know - I'm by no means saying Boll is a good director. I think he has some skills - an eye for shot composition and I think he'd make a good second unit director or assistant director, but yeah - based on the one movie of his I've seen, it's pretty clear he's not fit to direct entire movies by himself... but I feel that way about alot of directors. I think all this talk about Uwe being the worst filmmaker ever is way overblown. Plus - I think it's safe to say that nobody here has seen all or even most of his films (and in many cases only one or none, perhaps only a trailer) and therefore such a statement is pretty much baseless. Such is the nature of this forum though as many people around here like to say how good or bad a movie is without having even seen it. Boll is not bad enough to qualify as the worst director... in fact, I think given the right source material and some experience and guidance, he could even be good. The problem is, there are enough good directors out there who don't get any projects that I somewhat agree that Boll should stop making movies... but since his funding comes from private foreign investors (apparently), there's probably room for him to keep making films. If nothing else, they should all go straight to video.
Old 02-01-05 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Trigger
Roland Emmerich? Cutthroat Island?
What about Wing Commander?
What about Queen of the Damned?
What about Dr. T and the Women?

I don't know - I'm by no means saying Boll is a good director. I think he has some skills - an eye for shot composition and I think he'd make a good second unit director or assistant director, but yeah - based on the one movie of his I've seen, it's pretty clear he's not fit to direct entire movies by himself... but I feel that way about alot of directors.
Well, I haven't seen Queen or Wing Commander so I can't really compare those. Neither Dr. T and the women, but I do know Robert Altman is a better filmmaker then Uwe Boll. But Cutthroat and Emmerich? I have seen those things, and not even close. Emmerich, despite being a bad filmmaker, does have an eye for composition, and surely knows how to destroy stuff real good. I could say the same for Cutthroat, it's got some decent production design, some nice explosions and a wonderful musical score (though, it still sucks).

Where we probably disagree is this. I do not think Uwe Boll has an eye for composition whatsoever, at least based on the stuff I've seen from Bloodrayne and from watching House of the Dead. I will admit, Alone in the Dark seems to have a bit better lighting then either of those films though. But his films are poorly thought out, look silly, and his direction of actors is terrible.

Now, if you want to talk straight to video, I probably could find more that are that terrible. The film Cyborg Cop comes to mind, which is every bit as bad as HoTD, but with lesser production values (so, I suppose, even worse really).

Nonetheless, it's a pointless argument. He's pretty damn bad, no matter how you look at it. I don't see any redeeming qualities at all, and a lot of the hatred towards Boll comes from his interviews and attitude beyond his filmmaking ability. I think anyone that actually gets angry over his films is being rather silly, but for many of us, watching and talking about uwe Boll is just a lot of fun. Comparing a bunch of bad films and trying to decide what's worse is a rather pointless endeavor when you come down to it, as obviously personal taste will make for one's pick a little different from another. There will never be an objective "worst ever" filmmaker. But enough people think Boll is awful that he obviously has to be considered on of the worst.
Old 02-01-05 | 08:01 PM
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I thought that trailer was horrible. The action scenes looked incredibly slow, like they were rehearsing the fights or something. And I can't believe all the great actors who signed up for such a horrible looking movie.
Old 02-01-05 | 09:54 PM
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Well, I haven't seen Queen or Wing Commander so I can't really compare those. Neither Dr. T and the women, but I do know Robert Altman is a better filmmaker then Uwe Boll. But Cutthroat and Emmerich? I have seen those things, and not even close. Emmerich, despite being a bad filmmaker, does have an eye for composition, and surely knows how to destroy stuff real good. I could say the same for Cutthroat, it's got some decent production design, some nice explosions and a wonderful musical score (though, it still sucks).
This might be the problem... you haven't seen enough bad movies if you think Boll is the worst. Not that seeing crappy movies is required in order to have an opinion... but it just means you (or whoever) should adjust the statement to more along the lines of "Uwe Boll movies are the worst movies I've ever seen." That would at least be fair.

However, Robert Altman may or may not be a good filmmaker, but Dr. T and the Women was a piece of garbage and I hated it more than Alone in the Dark... and Tara Reid was in both of them. Hmm...

Originally Posted by jaeufraser
Where we probably disagree is this. I do not think Uwe Boll has an eye for composition whatsoever, at least based on the stuff I've seen from Bloodrayne and from watching House of the Dead. I will admit, Alone in the Dark seems to have a bit better lighting then either of those films though. But his films are poorly thought out, look silly, and his direction of actors is terrible.
Well, I never saw House of the Dead - only Alone in the Dark and based only on that I'd say he does have an eye for composition. It's one of the things I looked for as I watched the film... I went into it knowing how everyone thinks he's horrible and I wanted to be critical of his work. I payed close attention to composition in the first 20 minutes and he did a good job with it I think. It doesn't matter because the movie was crap. The movie would be crap with any director... Tara Reid was crap, the plot was crap, and the CG special effects were crap. And I mean - I have to wonder if given the right material, maybe Boll could churn out a decent B-grade sci-fi or horror film. Maybe if someone handed him a good script and the film had a talented hands-on producer... who knows.

Regardless - HotD as a video game was nearly story-less and wouldn't make for a good movie. Alone in the Dark's story was only fit for a video game. Bloodrayne would only make for a good movie if you had a good writer take the basic premise of the game (hot chick vampire with knives) and come up with something completely different because the game's story is kinda convoluted. Far Cry may have potential because it's a simple action story with some sci-fi in it and a beautiful tropical environment. It's the kind of dumb action movie that writes itself, but still manages to entertain. We'll see.

Originally Posted by jaeufraser
Now, if you want to talk straight to video, I probably could find more that are that terrible. The film Cyborg Cop comes to mind, which is every bit as bad as HoTD, but with lesser production values (so, I suppose, even worse really).
Trust me when I say that there's far worse straight to video out there than Cyborg Cop.

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Nonetheless, it's a pointless argument. He's pretty damn bad, no matter how you look at it. I don't see any redeeming qualities at all, and a lot of the hatred towards Boll comes from his interviews and attitude beyond his filmmaking ability. I think anyone that actually gets angry over his films is being rather silly, but for many of us, watching and talking about uwe Boll is just a lot of fun. Comparing a bunch of bad films and trying to decide what's worse is a rather pointless endeavor when you come down to it, as obviously personal taste will make for one's pick a little different from another. There will never be an objective "worst ever" filmmaker. But enough people think Boll is awful that he obviously has to be considered on of the worst.
There's redeeming qualities in everything... even Tara Reid. To prove it, let me think of something. ... Well, she has a nice tan. There. See?

"enough people think Boll is awful that he obviously has to be considered one of the worst" - well most people saying he's awful haven't seen any of his films (or perhaps only one), so no - there's no validity in it.

The only reason he's getting this attention is because of his enthusiasm about his own films and because he's seemingly found a niche with these video games to movies... and because the movies aren't up to some imaginary hollywood standard. He's a frickin foreigner and these films probably have bigger budgets than most of the films coming out of his own country.

Tsui Hark is one of the most brilliant directors Hong Kong has ever produced... some may disagree, but he's been called 'the Spielberg of Asia' by many people. He made films such as Once Upon a Time in China, Zu:Warriors of the Magic Mountain, The Blade, and Time and Tide. While not all his films are considered to be good, he has quite a resume with many positive reviews under his belt.

He comes to direct in America and he produces two films... both starring Van Damme... one was Double Team with Dennis Rodman and the other was Knock Off with Rob Schneider. Now, I could find things to like in these (widely considered) terrible films because I could recognize his directing style within. Many people were first exposed to Tsui Hark with these films and if his name was prominently displayed and he did interviews saying they were awesome films, people would be saying what a piece of shit director Tsui Hark is too just like they are with Boll.
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Wow, that was incredibly terrible! It looks like a trailer for a straight to video release. For some reason it reminds me of a trailers for direct to video releases that would be on vhs titles in the early to mid 90s. Instead of giving him 20 million to make a movie, I would give him 20 million to never make a movie again. LGF must not have learned anything from HOTD's success, hopefully the studios will understand what a piece of trash this is. Actually I hope somebody pays for the distribution rights. Then they should shelve it as a public service to society! Hey, since it is charitable work they probably could write it off.
Old 02-01-05 | 10:27 PM
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Damn, I mean we all keep joking about it but will this guy ever stop??? It's getting a little weird now.
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Originally Posted by Trigger

"enough people think Boll is awful that he obviously has to be considered one of the worst" - well most people saying he's awful haven't seen any of his films (or perhaps only one), so no - there's no validity in it.


I'm pretty sure most people are speaking a bit in hyperbole when referencing Boll as the worst. Nonetheless, he is rather unianimously slagged on as a bad filmmaker. Sure, there are those who haven't viewed enough of his work to judge. But just look at his film's reviews and you'll notice one thing they have in common...they all say he's terrible. I think, though, Boll gets most of his flack because of the genres he works in...it just so happens that many of the fans in those genres happen to be the ones who spend more time on the internet talking about movies. That and, despite not being good at what he does, he keeps getting work, and they are bigger budgets, more stars, and higher profile. Not to mention they're based on video games with, I suppose some fan base, but at least name recognition.

In the end, I agree with you, he's not the worst of all time out there. When it comes to theatrically released films, I do think he ranks high amongst the bad ones. He's definately made one of the worst theatrically released films I've seen, if one must have me include that last bit. If you read some of his reviews, a lot of professional critics who see movies for a living agree. This is a subjective matter, so no matter how many movies one sees, it is always possible that one might think that Boll's films are some of the worst. I mean, you thought Bourne Supremacy was a simply awful film. I could try to convince you why that's wrong and how it's not even close to true, but what's the point? It's your opinion, and you're certainly entitled to it, and in your eyes, it's true. Same as how, in many people's eyes, Boll is a shit filmmaker, and one of the worst to hit the cinemaplex.

Though, after seeing Tara Reid's tits, I'd say...I'd be happy if she never got a role again. Not even her boobs are worth looking at, which by all means, can make up a lot for no acting ability.
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I just watched a movie that made Alone in the Dark look like a cinematic masterpiece... Brush Up My Sisters (Hong Kong) - what a pile. It was filmed with a digital hand-held consumer level camera and had no budget... and it wasn't even porn.

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Between this and Thunderbirds, they should demand Ben Kingsley's Oscar back.

I hope Ben Kingsley does that Spielberg movie about the 1972 Olympics now that the start date has been delayed.
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Yeah, a janitor.
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Yeah, a janitor.
True. He should be cleaning shit, not making it.

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