What movie has ever offended/angered you?
#77
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Originally posted by Crocker Jarmen
What angered me about the killings in Cannibal Holocausto was the geek-show presentation of the animal killings. It was there to satisfy the bloodlust and need to be grossed out by splatter movie. I was offended that people created suffering for the sake of cheap thrills. I can think of few sadder images from a movie then that great, magestic turtle, who had it's head lopped off and then split down the middle just so degenerates could gag into their popcorn and laugh at the outgrageousness of it all.
What angered me about the killings in Cannibal Holocausto was the geek-show presentation of the animal killings. It was there to satisfy the bloodlust and need to be grossed out by splatter movie. I was offended that people created suffering for the sake of cheap thrills. I can think of few sadder images from a movie then that great, magestic turtle, who had it's head lopped off and then split down the middle just so degenerates could gag into their popcorn and laugh at the outgrageousness of it all.
I would say Cannibal Holocaust is far from a 'cheap thrills' for 'degenerates' film. It is actually a well made piece of art. The camerawork,the editing,music,imagery,contrast between civilized and barbaric. Everything about the film works in some weird way. That it makes for a deeply disturbing,but interesting viewing experiance,that will get under your skin and make you think.
Other cannibal films may be more exploitive and definitely 'cheap thrills' for gore hounds(& I have not liked them so far). Yet C.H. is another monster entirely and something that stands above the genre as a great piece of work.
It is a **** star Euro horror classic and also a very important piece of work in the genre in my honest opinion.
Now if you want a truely bad cheap thrills for 'degenerates' or a better term,immature people with little I.Q.
see Pink Flamingos and see what a film aiming for nothing but shock after shock is really like.
It is flat out boring as hell. Now if you are really sheltered and have an immature sense of humor. The film may be the most outrageouslly funny film ever. Yet I found it a chore to sit through,since there was no point to it at all. Stuff just happened for mere shock value. Yet being bombarded with gross out material each second for 90 minutes,does not make for fun viewing.
I know there is a very very thin 'plot' to the film. Basically two sick families/couples wanting to be crowned 'filthiest person alive'. Yet the grudge between the two waring parties,was never really detailed. They hardly know each other,nor have any scenes together,nor really any reason to try to out do the other.
They just happen to blindly hear about the other party,and try to be nastier than them.
Yet it makes for a dull viewing experiance. Sure there is many things in it,that you don't normally see. Yet the novelty quickly weres off,without any real plot to take you from one scene to the other.
I would put it in the same league as the annoying Jackass. No real point,nothing,just a desparate attempt at getting attention for 90 minutes.
I will say the talking ass,did not gross me out..and was one of the few amusing/interesting things in the film. The sequence that really did gross me out and make me feel sick to my stomach,was the mother son oral sequence(they are ugly as hell,which made it even grosser!). The infamous shit eating ending was abit gross,but surprisingly not too shocking today. The way people went on about the scene,made it sound like Divine scooped up a huge load of shit and dug right in. Yet instead,we get alittle tiny piece of dog poop which makes you think "Is that it? What a cop out,people made it seem even worse than it really was!".
I was able to sleep peacefully right after viewing the film. I was bored,but forgot about it immediately afterwards.
Meanwhile C.H. really left an impression on me,that I was rattled for hours after seeing it. I had a tough time getting to sleep. I was deeply disturbed by the film,feeling numb for a week,before the effect wore off. Even worse,was I had a bad feeling about eating meat and my mom made steaks the very next night! I reluctantly ate of course,but nearly threw up.
I can eat meat now without a problem. Yet the film really does get to you,which is a good thing. If the film bored me and did not get under my skin and make me think. Then it failed to do it's job.
Yet since it did all the above and then some. I can see why it is such a well made controversial film.
Anyone can throw shock after shock at you. But it takes talent to actually make it work!
Pink Flamingos did not work,since there was really no point to the material.
C.H. worked,since it was not shock after shock every nanosecond,nor was it for mere shock values sake. There was actually a story in between the depravity..and the shock sequences were spread out far enough,to add maximum impact,rather than getting tiering too quickly.
So while the animal violence may be sickening. The film is not a worthless piece of crap based on that alone. In fact,compared to some other cannibal films. There is less animal violence in C.H.,than the ones before and after it. Yet C.H. is still the most effective film of them all. Which is why people rip on it so much,despite only 4 animals being killed durring the entire running time.
I am not saying that it is 'ok' since they only killed 4 animals,compared to the many many more in other films. Yet like the shit eating ending of Pink Flamingos. People make it sound like there is even more animal violence in the film,than their really is.
#78
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Originally posted by SuprVgeta
Dreamcatcher. I'm offended that they tried to ruin Morgan Freeman's career with that crapfest of a movie.
Dreamcatcher. I'm offended that they tried to ruin Morgan Freeman's career with that crapfest of a movie.
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#79
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Originally posted by Julie Walker
Meanwhile C.H. really left an impression on me,that I was rattled for hours after seeing it. I had a tough time getting to sleep. I was deeply disturbed by the film,feeling numb for a week,before the effect wore off. Even worse,was I had a bad feeling about eating meat and my mom made steaks the very next night! I reluctantly ate of course,but nearly threw up.
I can eat meat now without a problem. Yet the film really does get to you,which is a good thing. If the film bored me and did not get under my skin and make me think. Then it failed to do it's job.
Meanwhile C.H. really left an impression on me,that I was rattled for hours after seeing it. I had a tough time getting to sleep. I was deeply disturbed by the film,feeling numb for a week,before the effect wore off. Even worse,was I had a bad feeling about eating meat and my mom made steaks the very next night! I reluctantly ate of course,but nearly threw up.
I can eat meat now without a problem. Yet the film really does get to you,which is a good thing. If the film bored me and did not get under my skin and make me think. Then it failed to do it's job.
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Originally posted by Cornelius1047
I think Morgan Freeman's agent has been planning this for quite some time now. Just see nearly every movie he's made after SE7EN for proof.
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I think Morgan Freeman's agent has been planning this for quite some time now. Just see nearly every movie he's made after SE7EN for proof.
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#81
Originally posted by Julie Walker
You must have watched the film in a different frame of mind,than myself and everyone else who has seen it. I never found the animal & real death footage 'sick comedy for gore hounds',nor viewed in 'nasty fun,guaranteed to make you puke' enthusiasm.
You must have watched the film in a different frame of mind,than myself and everyone else who has seen it. I never found the animal & real death footage 'sick comedy for gore hounds',nor viewed in 'nasty fun,guaranteed to make you puke' enthusiasm.
Originally posted by Julie Walker
I would say Cannibal Holocaust is far from a 'cheap thrills' for 'degenerates' film. It is actually a well made piece of art. The camerawork,the editing,music,imagery,contrast between civilized and barbaric. Everything about the film works in some weird way. That it makes for a deeply disturbing,but interesting viewing experiance,that will get under your skin and make you think.
I would say Cannibal Holocaust is far from a 'cheap thrills' for 'degenerates' film. It is actually a well made piece of art. The camerawork,the editing,music,imagery,contrast between civilized and barbaric. Everything about the film works in some weird way. That it makes for a deeply disturbing,but interesting viewing experiance,that will get under your skin and make you think.
Originally posted by Julie Walker
So while the animal violence may be sickening. The film is not a worthless piece of crap based on that alone. In fact,compared to some other cannibal films. There is less animal violence in C.H.,than the ones before and after it. Yet C.H. is still the most effective film of them all. Which is why people rip on it so much,despite only 4 animals being killed durring the entire running time.
I am not saying that it is 'ok' since they only killed 4 animals,compared to the many many more in other films. Yet like the shit eating ending of Pink Flamingos. People make it sound like there is even more animal violence in the film,than their really is.
So while the animal violence may be sickening. The film is not a worthless piece of crap based on that alone. In fact,compared to some other cannibal films. There is less animal violence in C.H.,than the ones before and after it. Yet C.H. is still the most effective film of them all. Which is why people rip on it so much,despite only 4 animals being killed durring the entire running time.
I am not saying that it is 'ok' since they only killed 4 animals,compared to the many many more in other films. Yet like the shit eating ending of Pink Flamingos. People make it sound like there is even more animal violence in the film,than their really is.
You have the ability to fake any sort of atrocity a movie. The main draw of CH is not 'see an animal writh in pain as it is brutaly disemembered', but 'see an animal writh in pain as it is brutaly dismembered for real'.
Who are these sick assholes that would mutilate for the sake of entertainment? Even if something is a grand work of art, shouldn't I be angered by the immoral steps taken to achieve it? Especially since they were actions that could have been avoided.
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I spit on your grave
I don't really have a problem with rape scenes except when they are crap like in this movie. I can only think of two other movies that even had rape scences American Me and Boys don't cry. Both had scenes that would break your heart or put you heart in fear of prison. The rape in I spit on your grave is like half the movie. I just wanted it to end already. When is the blood going to start I thought. This isn't a horror film ts rape fetish film. boo hiss booo. Yeah there was killing but only one scene was good the rest were crap. The set the thing up with the girl being tormented and abused to point where you are thinking you'll have to buy a new dvd player to remove the stink of it. But hell a really over the top revenage scene could have saved it maybe, well not likely.
I spit on this movie.
I don't really have a problem with rape scenes except when they are crap like in this movie. I can only think of two other movies that even had rape scences American Me and Boys don't cry. Both had scenes that would break your heart or put you heart in fear of prison. The rape in I spit on your grave is like half the movie. I just wanted it to end already. When is the blood going to start I thought. This isn't a horror film ts rape fetish film. boo hiss booo. Yeah there was killing but only one scene was good the rest were crap. The set the thing up with the girl being tormented and abused to point where you are thinking you'll have to buy a new dvd player to remove the stink of it. But hell a really over the top revenage scene could have saved it maybe, well not likely.
I spit on this movie.
#86
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Mystic River.
First showing one of the little boys being kidnapped and then having the stuff done to him. Second showing that another boy was to be raised with out his father and him looking for him.
First showing one of the little boys being kidnapped and then having the stuff done to him. Second showing that another boy was to be raised with out his father and him looking for him.
#88
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Originally posted by Big Worms
Mystic River.
First showing one of the little boys being kidnapped and then having the stuff done to him. Second showing that another boy was to be raised with out his father and him looking for him.
Mystic River.
First showing one of the little boys being kidnapped and then having the stuff done to him. Second showing that another boy was to be raised with out his father and him looking for him.
#90
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Originally posted by FinkPish
So was it the content of the movie that offended/angered you, or the way it was presented? I'm confused here, because if it was the content, things like that aren't rare occurances, unfortunately. I'm having a problem seeing how that could somehow be offensive.
So was it the content of the movie that offended/angered you, or the way it was presented? I'm confused here, because if it was the content, things like that aren't rare occurances, unfortunately. I'm having a problem seeing how that could somehow be offensive.
#91
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"Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me"
I've seen alot of crappy movies (which i rip on because they are sucky) but AP2 is the only movie i have ever seen that made me wanna walk out of a theater.
I love the first movie but this sequal...ugh. The first was very smart and very, very witty (when you got the various references) but "Spy"....ick. Between the dumbass writing (Shes a fembot?) and the shit drinking scene....well, it was mostly the shit drinking scene. I lost huge amounts of respect for Mike Meyers after seeing that movie.
I've seen alot of crappy movies (which i rip on because they are sucky) but AP2 is the only movie i have ever seen that made me wanna walk out of a theater.
I love the first movie but this sequal...ugh. The first was very smart and very, very witty (when you got the various references) but "Spy"....ick. Between the dumbass writing (Shes a fembot?) and the shit drinking scene....well, it was mostly the shit drinking scene. I lost huge amounts of respect for Mike Meyers after seeing that movie.
#92
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Originally posted by Big Worms
The content. All I can say is that I have 2 sons.
The content. All I can say is that I have 2 sons.
Last edited by Rivero; 10-25-04 at 07:09 PM.
#93
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Originally posted by FinkPish
I'm not judging Bob Flanagan necessarily, everyone must deal with these things in their own way, but to me there was another way. My bigger problem was with the movie, basically showcasing this guy because he was so outrageous. Why not showcase the people who don't let it affect them, the people who still live their lives as normally as possible, without the disease taking over.
I'm not judging Bob Flanagan necessarily, everyone must deal with these things in their own way, but to me there was another way. My bigger problem was with the movie, basically showcasing this guy because he was so outrageous. Why not showcase the people who don't let it affect them, the people who still live their lives as normally as possible, without the disease taking over.
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Originally posted by brizz
Because that would be boring.
Because that would be boring.
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Among many...one that comes to mind right away is JOHN Q....
the message of this film was just stupid.
Pro-B
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...and I agree with Grimfarrow...Spring, Summer, Fall....boring and simply dull.
the message of this film was just stupid.
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...and I agree with Grimfarrow...Spring, Summer, Fall....boring and simply dull.
#97
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In the Company of Men
The behavior of the main characters really got under my skin. Heck, I've seen movies with serial killers that I was able to have a minute amount of sympathy for but Aaron Ekhart's character - unredeemable.
The behavior of the main characters really got under my skin. Heck, I've seen movies with serial killers that I was able to have a minute amount of sympathy for but Aaron Ekhart's character - unredeemable.
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Originally posted by iggystar
In the Company of Men
In the Company of Men
#99
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Two offended me:
Birth of a Nation
Yeah, I know..I know...it's a classic. Griffith introduced a lot of narrative techniques...blah....blah...blah. The film portrays the freed blacks of the south (all portrayed by whites in blackface) as animals and portrays the KKK as heroic. Its even beyond offensive. Its reprehensible.
Freddy Got Fingered
This one kind of tears at me. I don't find it funny. Yet, I think it is a strangely compelling look at a dysfunctional family. But man...does it push the boundaries!!! I thought the "becoming the animal" scene couldn't be topped for offensiveness, but that's just the beginning. Jokes about bestial masturbation (twice), child molestation; swinging babies from umbilical cords, etc. And yet, it still doesn't offend me as much as Birth of a Nation.
Films that anger me are a whole different thing. And no film has angered me more than "Good Will Hunting." Thought it was well-written, well-acted, and well-directed. But...boy was the end a cop out. Robin Williams decides its time to go, but oh...before I forget...let's cure you in two minutes with a load of childhood psychological crap which went unmentioned for the whole 105 minutes prior. Holy deux ex machinas, Batman!
Birth of a Nation
Yeah, I know..I know...it's a classic. Griffith introduced a lot of narrative techniques...blah....blah...blah. The film portrays the freed blacks of the south (all portrayed by whites in blackface) as animals and portrays the KKK as heroic. Its even beyond offensive. Its reprehensible.
Freddy Got Fingered
This one kind of tears at me. I don't find it funny. Yet, I think it is a strangely compelling look at a dysfunctional family. But man...does it push the boundaries!!! I thought the "becoming the animal" scene couldn't be topped for offensiveness, but that's just the beginning. Jokes about bestial masturbation (twice), child molestation; swinging babies from umbilical cords, etc. And yet, it still doesn't offend me as much as Birth of a Nation.
Films that anger me are a whole different thing. And no film has angered me more than "Good Will Hunting." Thought it was well-written, well-acted, and well-directed. But...boy was the end a cop out. Robin Williams decides its time to go, but oh...before I forget...let's cure you in two minutes with a load of childhood psychological crap which went unmentioned for the whole 105 minutes prior. Holy deux ex machinas, Batman!



