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Old 09-23-04 | 01:27 AM
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No way THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT!!

DIRTY HARRY
WALKING TALL (1973)
THE GODFATHER
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Old 09-23-04 | 05:19 PM
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No way THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT!!
Agreed. Someone was way off the mark on this one.
THE GODFATHER
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Old 09-23-04 | 05:42 PM
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The Green Berets. Any other John Wayne War film.
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Old 09-23-04 | 06:06 PM
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any of the "Death Wish" movies,
vigilantism? explain please
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Old 09-24-04 | 01:28 AM
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Well, on THE GODFATHER.
The movie has old fashion vaules of honor, family togetherness.
It has a message of family 1st.

On DEATH WISH.
The Bronson character is a liberal who changes his liberal beliefs when his family is attacked. Now he has no pity for the robbers,rapists & thieves as liberals do.
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Old 09-24-04 | 10:25 AM
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Well, I am going to state some conservative political positions and I’m asking if there are movies that address them:

Pro-military, pro-USA, anti-communism- this genre is well represented

Religious values/themes- again well represented (although I don’t believe that being religious is necessary a conservative or liberal position- obviously the argument can be made that Jesus was quite the liberal- just asked yourself WWJD in the Death Wish movies)

Conservative family values- again well represented

Pro-business/ pro market economy-?

Reducing one's tax burden- not a very exciting premise for a movie

Abortion:
Spoiler:
Alfie
dealt with this issue (I doubt that the remake will)
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Old 09-24-04 | 10:34 AM
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On Abortion, what about Listen to Me (the debate team movie). I haven't seen it, but I doubt Kirk Cameron would appear in a movie that ultimately espouses a pro-choice view.

How about the death penalty? Only one I can think of is Dead Man Walking...while this is clearly a liberal anti-dp film made by liberals, I did think it did a good job of representing the other side even if ultimately it didn't agree with it.
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Old 09-24-04 | 10:47 AM
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How about the death penalty?
what about The Life of David Gale did anone see this movie?
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Old 09-25-04 | 01:09 AM
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The BILLY JACK movies (4 of them) are the best example of liberal movies that even a conservative can enjoy.
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Old 09-25-04 | 03:26 AM
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Saved! (not really politics but religion)
Really? I thought Saved! to be a terribly leftist movie (not that I disagree with it), that is toally against such groups as the Christian Coalition, etc.
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Pro-business/ pro market economy-?
Other People's Money
Working Girl

(Both films, especially the former, have an untypical for Hollywood understanding of business and the market and are able to distinguish between the ethical and unethical.)
Reducing one's tax burden- not a very exciting premise for a movie
Harry's War

(A little seen film about the excesses of the IRS; better than its 5.2 rating at IMDb.)
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Old 09-25-04 | 11:43 AM
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Well, on THE GODFATHER.
The movie has old fashion vaules of honor, family togetherness.
It has a message of family 1st.

I guess one out the ten commandments is a start
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Old 09-25-04 | 11:21 PM
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Pro-family, Anti-abortion:

A Raisin in the Sun
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Old 09-26-04 | 12:44 AM
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More recent films:


The Patriot (Mel Gibson)

The Passion of the Christ

Braveheart

The Lord of the Rings (for the same reasons Star Wars Trilogy was mentioned in the National Review article above. Though like all great mythologies its used by both the political Right and Left all the way to extremists like White Aryan Nations to members of ELF to push their agendas)

Saving Private Ryan

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Old 09-26-04 | 04:28 AM
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"Triumph of the Will"? "Birth of a Nation"? Come on guys . . .

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Old 09-26-04 | 06:22 AM
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I'm gonna ask this, just because I want to see how ridiculous the answer will be...

How is The Passion of The Christ a political film and/or a film with a conservative message?
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Old 09-26-04 | 06:25 AM
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It seems silly but apparently...

Conservative = Religious. Well, I think one can be conservative without being religious and so can movies.
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Old 09-26-04 | 03:58 PM
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I don't follow organized religion and liked The Passion.

Stylistically it was a beautifully shot film with impressive scope. While thematically,it was a powerful experiance since the visuals and audio told the story,than mere words explaining it all to you.


Also on the entire liberal vs conservative thingy.

Look at it this way...Jesus is pretty liberal minded,the people in power that are against him are conservative. They want to stay in power and control and oppress people. Jesus wants to 'free' people and evolve society,while the conservatives in power want to keep things the same with no change. So they torture and punish those who think otherwise in order to keep others in their place. Don't dare speak out or question authority,or you will be executed slowly!

Also while the nazi propoganda pictures and Birth of a Nation were used humorously. When you think about it. The metaphor is not too far off when you look at the state of politics today.


Liberal does not mean 'evil' 'dirty' 'sinnful' and whatever nasty things conservatives want you to think. They thrive on ignorance. So with their control of the media(there is no 'liberal media',that is a myth)...they can spread whatever propoganda they wish. So if enough people start deriding liberals. Soon people will look at liberals badly. Yet if you actually used some common sense and looked up the word in the dictionary. Liberal means open minded and tolerant. Everything the conservative is not.

Of course just because you are 'liberal',does not mean you are open to everything..which conservatives constantly bring up too turn the tables on them.

For example,regarding gay marriage,that is why conservatives always bring up pedophilia,beastiality and other harmful things...which no one in their right mind would 'ok' in order to turn the debate into a 'if you allow this,you must allow that,or you are a hypocrite'..when they seem to forget a thing called common sense.

So basically it all comes down to using common sense and what is best for society(ie-it helps,not harms society...thus beastiality and such will never be allowed legally)...over what is best for some fear mongers trying to keep in power by feeding off the ignorance of others.


So in regards to the nazi propoganda pieces...............

Triumph of the Will.....ahhh the nazi party looks so innocent and something that will help society positively. Hitler seems like such a great leader. A vote for him is a vote for equality and healthy living!

but soon,once they gain power,uh oh,their real intentions begin to show,which leads to

The Eternal Jew a crude piece of hate propoganda,that did work in brainwashing the masses that jews were vile and evil and deserved to be slaughtered. Either you follow us,or end up like them!..again fear keeps people in power.


So it is not far off comparing the rights spinning of the media into making them look good,and everyone/thing they disagree with look vile and evil(and how they may say one thing,but do the opposite). If you watch enough of it without thinking and looking into the issues yourselves. You eventually will believe what they are telling you...and anyone who disagrees/thinks otherwise should be watched suspisciously and looked down upon.

Afterall,belonging to a group is better than being left all by your lonesome,..but then looked what happened with the nazi party..and political parties in general are no better.



Something to think about
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I don't follow organized religion and liked The Passion.

Stylistically it was a beautifully shot film with impressive scope. While thematically,it was a powerful experiance since the visuals and audio told the story,than mere words explaining it all to you.


Also on the entire liberal vs conservative thingy.

Look at it this way...Jesus is pretty liberal minded,the people in power that are against him are conservative. They want to stay in power and control and oppress people. Jesus wants to 'free' people and evolve society,while the conservatives in power want to keep things the same with no change. So they torture and punish those who think otherwise in order to keep others in their place. Don't dare speak out or question authority,or you will be executed slowly!

Also while the nazi propoganda pictures and Birth of a Nation were used humorously. When you think about it. The metaphor is not too far off when you look at the state of politics today.

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Something to think about
Now the hatred in your heart is naked.

Your comments are way off, thank you, and WAY OUT OF LINE. I'll appreciate it if you DON'T call me a Nazi. If you don't generalize and stereotype and label and dismiss and SHOW YOUR PREDUJICE.

Sigh. And the thread was so civil . . . None of this anything to do with movies. Let the record show that we were actually having a fine conversation about movies until your bigotry reared its head.

As for your argument that certain things will never be allowed, like some eternal secular common sense that guides the universe, well, I only need point out that the ACLU has defended NAMBLA.

And Hitler was a pagan, not a Christian.

Absolutely nothing to think about.

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Old 09-26-04 | 04:47 PM
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Well it does have to do with films. Discussing conservative themes and themes of the films brought up.


In that regard media manipulation for political gain are an important aspect to todays media....and Triumph of the WIll which was brought up earlier is an important piece of political propoganda,which shows how people can be lead astray by what they see & hear...and how it contradicts the true intentions of the party in question.


So the metaphor is not far off and should be looked at civily with an open mind. Do you follow your party without question? Or do you stop and think,and to look at the facts before taking sides?

But how can you do that when the news media is conservative controlled and skewered?

Thus you have to think outside the box and dare to ask questions and find the real facts...before forming an opinion.


Yet if you fail to do that and only believe what your party tells you in their ads,interviews and rallies since that is all that is out there..and anyone who thinks otherwise is immediately condemnded and shunned away.

It is not much different than being lead astray like in Triumph of the Will into believing the nazi party was a good thing.
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God, your thinking is so simplistic!

It's a total and absolute threadcrap. Even if the media were slanted to the right, (HAHAHAHAHAHA) then media manipulation still has nothing to do with any specifically conservative principles whatsoever. THE NAZIS WERE NOT CONSERVATIVES. In fact, they were socialists, and they were completly secular and anti-religion. (Sound familiar?) Nor, in fact, do conservative principles necessarily even have anything to do with a specific political party. Certainly mine don't. And I didn't see anything in this thread implying the Republican party before you brought them up.

Do us a favor and don't intrude where you know nothing about the subject. I wouldn't bother posting in the thousands of threads dedicated to liberal movies - err . . . that's 99% of them.

You basically refered to conservatives as Nazis. Typical attitude, predictable, studied, and boring. I saw it all through college.

But I doubt you intend to apoligize for your bigotry and prejudice.

It needed to be said, but now we're WAY off the subject.

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Old 09-26-04 | 05:35 PM
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But how can you do that when the news media is conservative controlled and skewered?
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Given that this thread has degenerated to political slander, I'm closing it.
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