You seem to really have it in for this movie. We've all seen the same amount of footage from the trailers, and nothing I've seen leads me to believe that this one is "poorly shot & made," or that it is somehow redundant. Again I have to point out, Alexander led massive battles, so to me they must exist in this movie about his short life. It is obvious that you are sick of these big battle sequences, but how many can you name since LOTR came out that have made the whole matter boring? I can only name one. "Troy," but again that battle was in the original story, in fact it was the original story. I'm not trying to change your opinion, and I'm not necessarily standing up for the movie, because I'm not convinced yet either, but I'm not getting your point of view.

http://raincloud.warnerbros.com/wbmo...ailer_MSTR.mov

New trailer for this one. I'm thinking this has potential to be pretty good stuff. No doubt there's more to this than just big battles (which also look good) and lots of Stoneish political intrigue. Angelina growling on all fours is nice.

Oh, and probably what excites me even more is that Vangelis is doing the music. This guy does film scores seemingly once ever decade, and the three I can think of are perhaps some of the best film scores ever, Blade Runner Chariots of Fire and 1492. 1492 was the Columbus epic, and wow, that's a truly powerful score. I can't wait to hear what he has in store for this movie.

I don't know what exactly the naysayers are complaining about. From the trailer, this looks great.

Oh, and LOTR's battles weren't that great, sheesh.

I actually plan on watching this when it hits DVD and I have no idea why. Doesn't look too impressive but it's good to see Oliver getting out of making movies like "Any given Sunday" - I still can't believe that flick was ever made.

I think Colin does a decent job as sort of a sleezebag like in Phone Booth or Daredevil (although I hated the forehead thing... would've been better as a tattoo). As the hero type he's passable but bland.

I think this movie looks jokingly bad. Colin Farrell just plain sucks.

My problem with the movie, atleast from the trailer is the acting, it seems as though all the actors are over acting, especially Angelina Jolie and her accent, its almost funny, but I hope im wrong and the movie turns out to be a very well made epic.

I agree. All of Jolie's lines made me cringe. And Colin Ferrel certainly has had an uphill battle from day one convincing everyone he can pull it off. From the trailer, I am certainly not convinced. Hope I am wrong.

Is there a new theatrical trailer out there? All the ones I have seen end with that crazy shot of Farrell taking on the elephant.


Let me say that even though I seem to have it out for this movie, I don't. I will most likely see it opening day or night because I like this kind of material and I am curious to see how Oliver Stone will handle it. Heck, Stone directing a movie is enough to peak my curiousity as I am almost guaranteed a trip, what kind is always another matter. It just doesn't impress me at this point.

Dr. DVD, there is a new trailer. Look at the link from my post at the top of the second page of this thread.

Otherwise, wow, I guess I just disagree with most ya guys. Yeah, there's a lot of very broad acting going on here, but well that doesn't bother me. Not every film has to have a low key asthetic, but I can understand why some might be bothered. of course, taken out of context it's really hard to say whether it is over acting or just an emotional peak.

Nonetheless I'm excited...Stone will bring a much keener eye to the politics and historical aspect of this story, and of course bring a different style as opposed to the workmanlike blandness of Peterson's Troy, which was good looking but overall not that great. So yeah I think this looks pretty damn cool, if for no other reason than...well....Alexander is a pretty damn good story! Colin looks a little odd, but it wouldn't suprise me that people back then would look odd to us.

Personally, after seeing the new preview... I dunno. It still doesnt interest me all that much. Prob skip it or see it for $1.50 at the super saver.

actually he probably had blonde hair like most indo-europeans
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It was a powerful score. Can't say the same about the movie.

Since I'm an Oliver Stone fan (it's been way too long since he's done anything) and a Hopkins fan, I'm looking forward to this quite a bit. I did not even mind the early teasers, which pretty much consisted of Hopkin's narration and words on the screen.

This new trailer, though, has really gotten me pumped. I think it looks really good, and I have confidence that Oliver Stone has a very good movie on his hands (even with the release date shift).

You guys can predict hair color from places where many hair colors are common?! Can ya tell me what hair color some guy in California will have? Or how about Greece?

when Colin, er I mean Alexander yells "Do you want to live forever" or something to that effect it evokes the similiar line from Starship Troopers

Well, in California it would be tough, but considering how singularly ethnic many areas were back in the day, I can imagine people could predict hair color fairly accurately. Could they be wrong? Sure, but that doesn't mean it isn't a good guess.

Personally, I'm looking forward to it. Jolie's accent is kind of strange, but hopefully it won't be too distracting.

Did it look like Christopher Plummer was in one of those scenes?

Also, has anyone seen Reign: The Conqueror? It's an anime from the guy who did Aeon Flux, and it's a strange view of the life of Alexander. It's a stunning piece of work and well worth checking out for anyone who likes unconventional anime or Alexander The Great.

I'll take the original over this one any day.

New trailer does look better. Jolie's accent doesn't annoy me as much as I thought it would, I just hope we don't get an Oedipus type relationship between her and Farrel.

I did like the line about being a successful military leader is to not ask your men to do anything you won't do yourself. The same can be said for any leadership position.

1. troy was terrible. let's try not to mention that piece of shit ever again, ok?

2. LOTR's special effects are way overrated. anyone who thinks LOTR set the standards for epic movies obviously doesn't know much about films. i agree with Michael Corvin when he says that braveheart set the standards. LOTR ruined what braveheart achieved by their use of shitty CGI. Hero did a much better job than LOTR in that department.

3. i was really looking forward to alexander, i adore oliver stone and rodrigo prieto is one of the best cinematographers out there today. the first tv spot wasn't so hot, but the newest trailer looks much better.

Next time you might want to qualify your opinion, rather than demanding people concede to it. Your bit on Troy some might agree with, your bit on LoTR many less will agree with, but they stand as little more than a threadcrap. We get it you don't like LoTR, but to claim anyway who doesn't think they're bad effects doesn't know film indicates that...well your'e arrogant and YOU don't know film. Lay off with the threadcrap statements.

Nonetheless, yes, Alexander does look good imo.

I agree with decemberlove, CGI in LOTR, and in cinema for that matter is shit, utter utter shit. Whenever i see a gaping scene of 'glorious' CGI i think of a Pixar movie.

I'll take Braveheart battles over that shit anyday.

Did you see the same LOTR that everyone else saw; the one that one a bunch of Academy awards?

Next time it helps if you see the movie in a theatre instead of a Japanese bootleg on a 15" PC screen.

Good lord! Two big craps on LOTR and then what could be construed as a cutdown on another user.

Please, let's not let this thread turn into a flame war!