So..where are the "Oscar" films?
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Originally posted by Groucho
Not by anybody who is seriously analyzing the awards. I don't think either film film be nominated, but of the two Passion has the better chance.
Not by anybody who is seriously analyzing the awards. I don't think either film film be nominated, but of the two Passion has the better chance.
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But, unless I am mistaken, Hero was not nominated last year.
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I'll add my two cents in and say that Passion looks to be the forerunner to win best picture. It was a runaway success and to ignore that would tell us what we already know - most times the Academy is insane. (see Gladiator for Best Picture). Despite some people's claims that they did not enjoy the movie because they did not understand the plot, or get character development to their liking, the director played on the majority of the American population's inundation with Christianity. It doesn't take much to know that Jesus gets captured, gets crucified, and is resurrected, not in this country anyway. Even if you don't know how or why what is happening is happening, a semi-intelligent tree stump could get the gist.
As far as Hero goes, while I liked the movie, it was too reminiscent of CTHD for me. Same fight scenes (fighting with wires on water, in trees), same soundtrack, same kung fu with a message. Don't get me wrong, it was totally different in plot from CTHD, but there was so much there that reminded me of CTHD, it was distracting to me. It should win (or should have won) best picture in China.
And last but not least, I do not think Fahrenheit 9/11 should sniff the best pic award. It played to the democratic mindset (the same people who are now forging documents to get votes) and included nothing of what a best picture is supposed to have: Great acting, Great cinematography, Great Score, Great directing. To even mention it in the same breath as films like Godfather II, American Beauty, Gahndi, etc. is an insult. Then again, so is Gladiator, but... This propaganda film exploits the families of fallen soldiers in the Gulf, and takes way too much liberty with the facts to even be considered a documentary, much less a Best Picture.
As far as Hero goes, while I liked the movie, it was too reminiscent of CTHD for me. Same fight scenes (fighting with wires on water, in trees), same soundtrack, same kung fu with a message. Don't get me wrong, it was totally different in plot from CTHD, but there was so much there that reminded me of CTHD, it was distracting to me. It should win (or should have won) best picture in China.
And last but not least, I do not think Fahrenheit 9/11 should sniff the best pic award. It played to the democratic mindset (the same people who are now forging documents to get votes) and included nothing of what a best picture is supposed to have: Great acting, Great cinematography, Great Score, Great directing. To even mention it in the same breath as films like Godfather II, American Beauty, Gahndi, etc. is an insult. Then again, so is Gladiator, but... This propaganda film exploits the families of fallen soldiers in the Gulf, and takes way too much liberty with the facts to even be considered a documentary, much less a Best Picture.
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Originally posted by Green Jello
Not a chance in hell. It's too religious and political. The academy won't touch this with a ten foot pole.
Not a chance in hell. It's too religious and political. The academy won't touch this with a ten foot pole.
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About "The Passion of the Christ" You are probably right. I remember reading in Marlon Brando's biography, he said the Oscar's was run by a very influential group of Jewish people.
About "The Passion of the Christ" You are probably right. I remember reading in Marlon Brando's biography, he said the Oscar's was run by a very influential group of Jewish people.
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Originally posted by PopcornTreeCt
Yes, we all know that but I think The Passion of the Christ is still a lock for a Best Picture nomination not because it was good but because it made so much money.
Yes, we all know that but I think The Passion of the Christ is still a lock for a Best Picture nomination not because it was good but because it made so much money.
With regards to F 9/11, I'd really hope it isn't nominated for best picture. They have a best documentary category for a reason.
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People, people. The "Oscar" fims aren't buzzed yet because they're just being shown in Toronto! As with any award season, the buzz begins at the Toronto Film Festival. And forget all the films that have been out - F9/11 and Passion has very litte chance, as the studios behind them aren't known Oscar buzzmakers (well, unless you kount Harvey behind F9/11). The buzz is building on the following titles:
KINSEY - a ton of rave reviews for the films from everywhere, from the director/writer of GODS AND MONSTERS. Liam Neeson also has a good chance at getting nominated.
RAY - again, great reception, and Jamie Foxx looks unbeatable as Best Actor.
HOTEL RWANDA - tremendous reception, but the film is very, very sad. Don Cheadle is another Best Actor nom locked.
THE SEA INSIDE - never mind that it's in Spanish - Javier Bardem is taking the world by storm,a nd so is Aejandro Amenabar (the directorof THE OTHERS)
THE MERCHANT OF VENICE - Al Pacino's raved-about performance is a shoo-in.
SIDEWAYS - Alexander Payne's newest is also getting people hopping. May get quite a few noms.
P.S. - Laura Linney has to fight herself again this year, what with this performance and the one from KINSEY.
BEYOND THE SEA - another best actor possibility for Kevin Spacey. A very strong year for Male Actors - it's going to be difficult to narrow the list to just 5 noms...
FINDING NEVERLAND - Oi vay, another Best Actor possibiity! Johnny Depp I heard is very good. With Miramax's muscle, this shoud go far.
VERA DRAKE - Mike Leigh has been an Academy favorite for a whie, so it won't be surprising to see this get a few noms, especially after winning the Golden Lion and the buzz afterwards.
KINSEY - a ton of rave reviews for the films from everywhere, from the director/writer of GODS AND MONSTERS. Liam Neeson also has a good chance at getting nominated.
RAY - again, great reception, and Jamie Foxx looks unbeatable as Best Actor.
HOTEL RWANDA - tremendous reception, but the film is very, very sad. Don Cheadle is another Best Actor nom locked.
THE SEA INSIDE - never mind that it's in Spanish - Javier Bardem is taking the world by storm,a nd so is Aejandro Amenabar (the directorof THE OTHERS)
THE MERCHANT OF VENICE - Al Pacino's raved-about performance is a shoo-in.
SIDEWAYS - Alexander Payne's newest is also getting people hopping. May get quite a few noms.
P.S. - Laura Linney has to fight herself again this year, what with this performance and the one from KINSEY.
BEYOND THE SEA - another best actor possibility for Kevin Spacey. A very strong year for Male Actors - it's going to be difficult to narrow the list to just 5 noms...
FINDING NEVERLAND - Oi vay, another Best Actor possibiity! Johnny Depp I heard is very good. With Miramax's muscle, this shoud go far.
VERA DRAKE - Mike Leigh has been an Academy favorite for a whie, so it won't be surprising to see this get a few noms, especially after winning the Golden Lion and the buzz afterwards.
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it will be a shame that best original screenplay will probably pit two of the better movies against each other --"eternal sunshine .." and "garden state".
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People, people. The "Oscar" fims aren't buzzed yet because they're just being shown in Toronto! As with any award season, the buzz begins at the Toronto Film Festival. And forget all the films that have been out - F9/11 and Passion has very litte chance, as the studios behind them aren't known Oscar buzzmakers (well, unless you kount Harvey behind F9/11). The buzz is building on the following titles:
KINSEY - a ton of rave reviews for the films from everywhere, from the director/writer of GODS AND MONSTERS. Liam Neeson also has a good chance at getting nominated.
RAY - again, great reception, and Jamie Foxx looks unbeatable as Best Actor.
HOTEL RWANADA - tremendous reception, but the film is very, very sad. Don Cheadle is another Best Actor nom locked.
THE SEA INSIDE - never mind that it's in Spanish - Javier Bardem is taking the world by storm,a nd so is Aejandro Amenabar (the directorof THE OTHERS)
THE MERCHANT OF VENICE - Al Pacino's raved-about performance is a shoo-in.
SIDEWAYS - Alexander Payne's newest is also getting people hopping. May get quite a few noms.
P.S. - Laura Linney has to fight herself again this year, what with this performance and the one from KINSEY.
BEYOND THE SEA - another best actor possibility for Kevin Spacey. A very strong year for Male Actors - it's going to be difficult to narrow the list to just 5 noms...
FINDING NEVERLAND - Oi vay, another Best Actor possibiity! Johnny Depp I heard is very good. With Miramax's muscle, this shoud go far.
VERA DRAKE - Mike Leigh has been an Academy favorite for a whie, so it won't be surprising to see this get a few noms, especially after winning the Golden Lion and the buzz afterwards.
People, people. The "Oscar" fims aren't buzzed yet because they're just being shown in Toronto! As with any award season, the buzz begins at the Toronto Film Festival. And forget all the films that have been out - F9/11 and Passion has very litte chance, as the studios behind them aren't known Oscar buzzmakers (well, unless you kount Harvey behind F9/11). The buzz is building on the following titles:
KINSEY - a ton of rave reviews for the films from everywhere, from the director/writer of GODS AND MONSTERS. Liam Neeson also has a good chance at getting nominated.
RAY - again, great reception, and Jamie Foxx looks unbeatable as Best Actor.
HOTEL RWANADA - tremendous reception, but the film is very, very sad. Don Cheadle is another Best Actor nom locked.
THE SEA INSIDE - never mind that it's in Spanish - Javier Bardem is taking the world by storm,a nd so is Aejandro Amenabar (the directorof THE OTHERS)
THE MERCHANT OF VENICE - Al Pacino's raved-about performance is a shoo-in.
SIDEWAYS - Alexander Payne's newest is also getting people hopping. May get quite a few noms.
P.S. - Laura Linney has to fight herself again this year, what with this performance and the one from KINSEY.
BEYOND THE SEA - another best actor possibility for Kevin Spacey. A very strong year for Male Actors - it's going to be difficult to narrow the list to just 5 noms...
FINDING NEVERLAND - Oi vay, another Best Actor possibiity! Johnny Depp I heard is very good. With Miramax's muscle, this shoud go far.
VERA DRAKE - Mike Leigh has been an Academy favorite for a whie, so it won't be surprising to see this get a few noms, especially after winning the Golden Lion and the buzz afterwards.
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Originally posted by Grimfarrow
People, people. The "Oscar" fims aren't buzzed yet because they're just being shown in Toronto! As with any award season, the buzz begins at the Toronto Film Festival. And forget all the films that have been out - F9/11 and Passion has very litte chance, as the studios behind them aren't known Oscar buzzmakers (well, unless you kount Harvey behind F9/11). The buzz is building on the following titles:
KINSEY - a ton of rave reviews for the films from everywhere, from the director/writer of GODS AND MONSTERS. Liam Neeson also has a good chance at getting nominated.
RAY - again, great reception, and Jamie Foxx looks unbeatable as Best Actor.
HOTEL RWANDA - tremendous reception, but the film is very, very sad. Don Cheadle is another Best Actor nom locked.
THE SEA INSIDE - never mind that it's in Spanish - Javier Bardem is taking the world by storm,a nd so is Aejandro Amenabar (the directorof THE OTHERS)
THE MERCHANT OF VENICE - Al Pacino's raved-about performance is a shoo-in.
SIDEWAYS - Alexander Payne's newest is also getting people hopping. May get quite a few noms.
P.S. - Laura Linney has to fight herself again this year, what with this performance and the one from KINSEY.
BEYOND THE SEA - another best actor possibility for Kevin Spacey. A very strong year for Male Actors - it's going to be difficult to narrow the list to just 5 noms...
FINDING NEVERLAND - Oi vay, another Best Actor possibiity! Johnny Depp I heard is very good. With Miramax's muscle, this shoud go far.
VERA DRAKE - Mike Leigh has been an Academy favorite for a whie, so it won't be surprising to see this get a few noms, especially after winning the Golden Lion and the buzz afterwards.
People, people. The "Oscar" fims aren't buzzed yet because they're just being shown in Toronto! As with any award season, the buzz begins at the Toronto Film Festival. And forget all the films that have been out - F9/11 and Passion has very litte chance, as the studios behind them aren't known Oscar buzzmakers (well, unless you kount Harvey behind F9/11). The buzz is building on the following titles:
KINSEY - a ton of rave reviews for the films from everywhere, from the director/writer of GODS AND MONSTERS. Liam Neeson also has a good chance at getting nominated.
RAY - again, great reception, and Jamie Foxx looks unbeatable as Best Actor.
HOTEL RWANDA - tremendous reception, but the film is very, very sad. Don Cheadle is another Best Actor nom locked.
THE SEA INSIDE - never mind that it's in Spanish - Javier Bardem is taking the world by storm,a nd so is Aejandro Amenabar (the directorof THE OTHERS)
THE MERCHANT OF VENICE - Al Pacino's raved-about performance is a shoo-in.
SIDEWAYS - Alexander Payne's newest is also getting people hopping. May get quite a few noms.
P.S. - Laura Linney has to fight herself again this year, what with this performance and the one from KINSEY.
BEYOND THE SEA - another best actor possibility for Kevin Spacey. A very strong year for Male Actors - it's going to be difficult to narrow the list to just 5 noms...
FINDING NEVERLAND - Oi vay, another Best Actor possibiity! Johnny Depp I heard is very good. With Miramax's muscle, this shoud go far.
VERA DRAKE - Mike Leigh has been an Academy favorite for a whie, so it won't be surprising to see this get a few noms, especially after winning the Golden Lion and the buzz afterwards.
As noted elsewhere in this forum, Jamie Foxx' acting is downright amazing as Ray Charles.
The ensemble acting in SIDEWAYS is riveting and just entertaining to watch. Best film of the year in my opinion.
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I'm thinking the Oscars are going to plain old suck this year. I agree it's been a ho-hum year for potential contenders, and I realise that now is the time of year they start bringing out the movies they think will appeal to the Academy members. The best actor nomination list looks like it's going to be a strong one, which I always like to see.....hopefully we won't be treated to another Jim Carrey nomination.
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I'm thinking the Oscars are going to plain old suck this year. I agree it's been a ho-hum year for potential contenders, and I realise that now is the time of year they start bringing out the movies they think will appeal to the Academy members. The best actor nomination list looks like it's going to be a strong one, which I always like to see.....hopefully we won't be treated to another Jim Carrey nomination.
I'm thinking the Oscars are going to plain old suck this year. I agree it's been a ho-hum year for potential contenders, and I realise that now is the time of year they start bringing out the movies they think will appeal to the Academy members. The best actor nomination list looks like it's going to be a strong one, which I always like to see.....hopefully we won't be treated to another Jim Carrey nomination.
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Chicago came out in December.
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I like big budget action movies as much as the next guy but it seems as if the studios have been far less apt to green light more dramatic films the last few years than before. I hate to think it's because there is a shortage of good scripts or ideas.
There are some very capable younger actors out there with decent drawing power that seem to be attached to films highly unlikely to garner them an acting nomination.....not that that hasn't heppened in the past with names like Burt Reynolds, who wind up getting nods later in their careers.
There are some very capable younger actors out there with decent drawing power that seem to be attached to films highly unlikely to garner them an acting nomination.....not that that hasn't heppened in the past with names like Burt Reynolds, who wind up getting nods later in their careers.
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Originally posted by nightmaster
.....hopefully we won't be treated to another Jim Carrey nomination.
.....hopefully we won't be treated to another Jim Carrey nomination.
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hopefully we won't be treated to another Jim Carrey nomination.
hopefully we won't be treated to another Jim Carrey nomination.
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Sorry for the fubar guys, my mistake. I was recalling the hubub that went about for him not being nominated for either Man On The Moon or The Truman Show as well as his joking about not being nominated.
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Ray- Jamie Foxx is getting amazing positive buzz for this movie.... He will most likely get a best actor nod
Eternal Sunshine- Jim Carrey has been said to have given a great performance.
Passion Of Christ- Great buzz and amazing movie to have ever been made
Finding Neverland- Some say this is Johnny Depps year to get the Oscar. He gave an outstanding performance...
Eternal Sunshine- Jim Carrey has been said to have given a great performance.
Passion Of Christ- Great buzz and amazing movie to have ever been made
Finding Neverland- Some say this is Johnny Depps year to get the Oscar. He gave an outstanding performance...