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Queston: Why does this movie get ripped a new one all the time? I know it ain't no JAWS, but I enjoyed this flick as a kid and I still do. Nice shark scenes, good body count and Roy S.
Compare it to 3 and 4, it's Gone with the Wind.
So how come it doesn't get any respect?
Compare it to 3 and 4, it's Gone with the Wind.
So how come it doesn't get any respect?
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Don't mean to threadcrap but I thought this movie was....well....crap. TERRIBLE acting and horrible direction. And story....what story?
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JAWS 2 was a very good effort in my opinion.
Pros:
Roy Scheider
John Williams
good action sequences - the electrical cord, the helicopter, etc.
Cons:
teenagers all faceless, without personality
Pros:
Roy Scheider
John Williams
good action sequences - the electrical cord, the helicopter, etc.
Cons:
teenagers all faceless, without personality
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I really like Jaws 2 , it fits very well with the first one. I actually like part 3 too. As a stand alone film its good, as long as you don't compare it to the original, which is by far one of my favorite films.
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It's probably because the first movie is just so damn good. Part 2 just isn't as good, though I admit it's still a decent flick. The less said about part 4, the better. The Jaws series seems to reflect closely the superman series in terms of quality.
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The second one is ok - nothing to write home about, but certanly a very solid, very entertaining film. Good, mindless fun.
Just dont compare it to the first one. First one=God amongst men, Second one=just so-so.
Just dont compare it to the first one. First one=God amongst men, Second one=just so-so.
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Originally posted by Calvin
Queston: Why does this movie get ripped a new one all the time? I know it ain't no JAWS, but I enjoyed this flick as a kid and I still do. Nice shark scenes, good body count and Roy S.
Queston: Why does this movie get ripped a new one all the time? I know it ain't no JAWS, but I enjoyed this flick as a kid and I still do. Nice shark scenes, good body count and Roy S.
i was 11 when it came out.
i remember my mom drove an hour to take me to it the second day it was in release.
the theater had a huge standee of the sharks upper teeth forming a arch that you had to walk under to get into the theater.
saw it a bunch of times that summer and have always enjoyed it since.
i think it is interesting that, if the mechanical sharkhad actually been working as intended, the first film would have been robbed of what so many critics have complimented it and Spielberg for- not showing the shark and therefore ratcheting up the suspense.
i think Swzarc is generally a decent, if undistinguished, director. he toiled in the slave mines of Universal epsiodic tv all thru the seventies and was highly competent.
i think his rationale for showing off the shark more was valid(that , with a sequel, a lot of the freshness is already gone so you might as well just embrace that and go with it).
i still enjoy Scheiders performance and appreciate that the character has an arc from the first film to the second film.
his failings are human and believable, and its nice to see the focus of a summer sequel on an adult w/ 'issues'.
i also don't mind the teenagers.
in fact, i still think they are some of the best 'teens' i've seen in a film like this. not only are the actors age appropriate, there is a nice diversity to mix, and i think the way they react to the events is believable, and their perdicament is unique, being tethered to that floating pile of junk they have no way to navigate-even though they are all proficent sailors.
the original is a one of a kind, intelligent adventure movie, that was the product of some happy accidents (the failure of the mechanical shark being the primary one), and a cast that had perfect chemistry-
but i will always have a fond spot for the follow-up.
plus it contains one of Williams most lush, beautiful scores.
So how come it doesn't get any respect?
i really don't care.
i could name a dozen other sequels that are more derivative, or quite a bit stupider than the original, which are still regarded as being quite a bit better than J2.
people are idiots anyway.
i'm just grateful that Universal put out a more than decent dvd of it.
i was not expecting any extras whatsoever, and the a/v is really fine for something from the late 70s.
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Actually I think Jaws 2 has the best death scene, when the girl helps Mike out of the water and you see the shark comming up from behind her, then the camera retreats and all you see is the shark's jaws munching a few times....
that one scene blows me away. Best Jaws death out of all the films, and I love JAWS 1 too.
that one scene blows me away. Best Jaws death out of all the films, and I love JAWS 1 too.
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Originally posted by Calvin
Actually I think Jaws 2 has the best death scene, when the girl helps Mike out of the water and you see the shark comming up from behind her, then the camera retreats and all you see is the shark's jaws munching a few times....
that one scene blows me away. Best Jaws death out of all the films, and I love JAWS 1 too.
Actually I think Jaws 2 has the best death scene, when the girl helps Mike out of the water and you see the shark comming up from behind her, then the camera retreats and all you see is the shark's jaws munching a few times....
that one scene blows me away. Best Jaws death out of all the films, and I love JAWS 1 too.
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It's hard for me to like a sequel when a once-in-a-lifetime event (in this case, a giant great white feeding off Amity Island) happens twice. Although I wouldn't consider the movie bad by any means, the suspension of disbelief required to accept such an amazing coincidence affects my ability to fully enjoy the movie.
I think it would have made more sense if another great white started attacking a completely different beach. So then Hooper (Richard Dreyfuss) gets called in to assist since he's an expert on this type of thing. You could even write in Police Chief Brody at this point, since we'll assume he's now a close personal friend of Hooper's.
Then just basically go with the original idea of kids trapped out in the ocean with the shark hunting them. Of course, I assume Richard Dreyfuss was not interested in a sequel. But maybe he would have reconsidered if only the script didn't depend on the coincidence of another shark attacking Amity again!
I think it would have made more sense if another great white started attacking a completely different beach. So then Hooper (Richard Dreyfuss) gets called in to assist since he's an expert on this type of thing. You could even write in Police Chief Brody at this point, since we'll assume he's now a close personal friend of Hooper's.
Then just basically go with the original idea of kids trapped out in the ocean with the shark hunting them. Of course, I assume Richard Dreyfuss was not interested in a sequel. But maybe he would have reconsidered if only the script didn't depend on the coincidence of another shark attacking Amity again!
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JAWS 2 was great!
Because it allowed the director to do Somerwhere in Time.

I didn't care for the story. Making Brodie some kind of shark lunatic. One that ultimately took his life (By Ellen's account in JAWS 4). Giving the premise that the shark has some kind of personal vendetta by going after the kids. And on top of that, the shark took down a helicopter. C'mon.
Because it allowed the director to do Somerwhere in Time.

I didn't care for the story. Making Brodie some kind of shark lunatic. One that ultimately took his life (By Ellen's account in JAWS 4). Giving the premise that the shark has some kind of personal vendetta by going after the kids. And on top of that, the shark took down a helicopter. C'mon.

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JAWS 2
Best tag line ever:
"Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water..."
JAWS: THE REVENGE
Worst tag line ever:
"This time, it's personal."
JAWS 2
Best tag line ever:
"Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water..."
JAWS: THE REVENGE
Worst tag line ever:
"This time, it's personal."
"The Third Dimension is Terror"
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Giving the premise that the shark has some kind of personal vendetta by going after the kids.
The later sequels implied it was personal (i.e. shark traveling from Cape Cod down to Jamaica)
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Originally posted by chanster
Actually I don't think that was the premise of 2. I think they just said there was another member of that shark's family in the area.
Actually I don't think that was the premise of 2. I think they just said there was another member of that shark's family in the area.

What was supposed to be the time frame between the first film and the second? A year later?
The later sequels implied it was personal (i.e. shark traveling from Cape Cod down to Jamaica)
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Originally posted by chanster
The later sequels implied it was personal (i.e. shark traveling from Cape Cod down to Jamaica)
The later sequels implied it was personal (i.e. shark traveling from Cape Cod down to Jamaica)
I believe that the shark wants revenge against Mrs. Brody. I do. I really do believe it. After all, her husband was one of the men who hunted this shark and killed it, blowing it to bits. And what shark wouldn't want revenge against the survivors of the men who killed it?
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So it was a fluke that the shark scares the one scuba diver into surfacing so fast and getting the bends, that he bypasses him (and the rest of the divers) and heads straight for the 5 sailboats/catamarans?
The sailboats were in the water much later. I could be completly wrong