Tobe Hooper and zombies? I'm in......
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Originally posted by MSD
Hooper's a hack, he's made one good film and it was a fluke. But I do love zombie flicks so i'll definitely check this one out when it's released.
Hooper's a hack, he's made one good film and it was a fluke. But I do love zombie flicks so i'll definitely check this one out when it's released.
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Originally posted by Rival11
Come on now, calling Tobe Hooper a hack is like calling Michael Bay an artist.
Come on now, calling Tobe Hooper a hack is like calling Michael Bay an artist.
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Originally posted by RyoHazuki
Um no he's right. Tobe Hooper is a hack. TCM was accidently a good movie, Speilberg made Poltergeist, and the rest of his films are crap.
Um no he's right. Tobe Hooper is a hack. TCM was accidently a good movie, Speilberg made Poltergeist, and the rest of his films are crap.
I've also seen George Romero called a hack in some threads, what a joke.
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sounds interesting.
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Andy Warhol is a hack. 90% of his crap is "appropriation" and giving celebrity benedictions. Now Frida Khalo, THERE's a true artist! One that even Picasso himself called just as gifted as him. Viva la Frida!
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Originally posted by caiman
Michael Bay is an artist. He's just a very shitty one.
Michael Bay is an artist. He's just a very shitty one.
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Originally posted by Rival11
So what you're saying is that if a person makes only one great movie in their career, in this case a classic horror film which many say is the best horror movie ever made, they're a hack? I don't think so.
I've also seen George Romero called a hack in some threads, what a joke.
So what you're saying is that if a person makes only one great movie in their career, in this case a classic horror film which many say is the best horror movie ever made, they're a hack? I don't think so.
I've also seen George Romero called a hack in some threads, what a joke.
The movie isn't great for the same reasons as most great movies. It is great because of atmosphere, cinematography, and its sheer gruesomness that it brings.
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Actually - wanna talk about hacks? George Romero is a hack and a half. I'll agree that Toby Hooper is a hack with some good movies under his belt, but all the unconditional love for Romero blows my mind since his resume isn't even half as 'impressive'.
Like Jack, I'll go see a zombie movie if it's good regardless of who directed it.
Like Jack, I'll go see a zombie movie if it's good regardless of who directed it.
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Romero's downfall was he could not blend into this being a business. He could have easily taken advantage of NIGHT and rode the wave after that but he choose to go the more "indy" route which landed him on the shit list of major studios which he is now begging to fund his projects. He isn't a comercial director and in the long run, not matter how good your art is, if it doesn't pay the bills it doesn't make the grade.
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Originally posted by Jackskeleton
Romero's downfall was he could not blend into this being a business. He could have easily taken advantage of NIGHT and rode the wave after that but he choose to go the more "indy" route which landed him on the shit list of major studios which he is now begging to fund his projects. He isn't a comercial director and in the long run, not matter how good your art is, if it doesn't pay the bills it doesn't make the grade.
Romero's downfall was he could not blend into this being a business. He could have easily taken advantage of NIGHT and rode the wave after that but he choose to go the more "indy" route which landed him on the shit list of major studios which he is now begging to fund his projects. He isn't a comercial director and in the long run, not matter how good your art is, if it doesn't pay the bills it doesn't make the grade.
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Originally posted by Trigger
Actually - wanna talk about hacks? George Romero is a hack and a half. I'll agree that Toby Hooper is a hack with some good movies under his belt, but all the unconditional love for Romero blows my mind since his resume isn't even half as 'impressive'.
Like Jack, I'll go see a zombie movie if it's good regardless of who directed it.
Actually - wanna talk about hacks? George Romero is a hack and a half. I'll agree that Toby Hooper is a hack with some good movies under his belt, but all the unconditional love for Romero blows my mind since his resume isn't even half as 'impressive'.
Like Jack, I'll go see a zombie movie if it's good regardless of who directed it.
Tobe Hooper is a hack because he has some good movies under his belt? Like I said before, he made one of the best damn horror movies ever (IMO and many others) so he is now a hack because he hasn't made anything memorable since?
You people are killing me!!!
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On topic: I think Mortuary would be a good move.
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Originally posted by Jackskeleton
Romero's downfall was he could not blend into this being a business. He could have easily taken advantage of NIGHT and rode the wave after that but he choose to go the more "indy" route which landed him on the shit list of major studios which he is now begging to fund his projects. He isn't a comercial director and in the long run, not matter how good your art is, if it doesn't pay the bills it doesn't make the grade.
Romero's downfall was he could not blend into this being a business. He could have easily taken advantage of NIGHT and rode the wave after that but he choose to go the more "indy" route which landed him on the shit list of major studios which he is now begging to fund his projects. He isn't a comercial director and in the long run, not matter how good your art is, if it doesn't pay the bills it doesn't make the grade.
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Originally posted by Jackskeleton
Romero's downfall was he could not blend into this being a business. He could have easily taken advantage of NIGHT and rode the wave after that but he choose to go the more "indy" route which landed him on the shit list of major studios which he is now begging to fund his projects. He isn't a comercial director and in the long run, not matter how good your art is, if it doesn't pay the bills it doesn't make the grade.
Romero's downfall was he could not blend into this being a business. He could have easily taken advantage of NIGHT and rode the wave after that but he choose to go the more "indy" route which landed him on the shit list of major studios which he is now begging to fund his projects. He isn't a comercial director and in the long run, not matter how good your art is, if it doesn't pay the bills it doesn't make the grade.
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Originally posted by Rival11
Trigger!!! What are you talking about? Romero made Night of the Living Dead and Dawn of the Dead!!! So he's a hack because he doesn't have a ton of films under his belt?
Tobe Hooper is a hack because he has some good movies under his belt? Like I said before, he made one of the best damn horror movies ever (IMO and many others) so he is now a hack because he hasn't made anything memorable since?
You people are killing me!!!
Use of the word hack in this reply: 3
On topic: I think Mortuary would be a good move.
Trigger!!! What are you talking about? Romero made Night of the Living Dead and Dawn of the Dead!!! So he's a hack because he doesn't have a ton of films under his belt?
Tobe Hooper is a hack because he has some good movies under his belt? Like I said before, he made one of the best damn horror movies ever (IMO and many others) so he is now a hack because he hasn't made anything memorable since?
You people are killing me!!!
Use of the word hack in this reply: 3
On topic: I think Mortuary would be a good move.
I didn't say that Toby was a hack BECAUSE he has good films under his belt. I said he was a hack WITH a few good films under his belt. There is a difference. The difference between Romero and Hooper is that I think Hooper is at least capable of making a good film today... Romero I have zero faith in.
I thought TCM was awful... I mean, when I was younger and saw it, I thought it was allright... but having seen it half a dozen times over the years I just realized that it's crappy. I still like the 2nd and 3rd one though. Hooper a good filmmaker? Nah.
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Originally posted by Trigger
Yes - Romero is a hack... he can't direct a good film. Night and Dawn worked because of the time they were released. His abilities didn't grow beyond the cheap juvenile nature of late 70s and early 80s cinema.
I didn't say that Toby was a hack BECAUSE he has good films under his belt. I said he was a hack WITH a few good films under his belt. There is a difference. The difference between Romero and Hooper is that I think Hooper is at least capable of making a good film today... Romero I have zero faith in.
I thought TCM was awful... I mean, when I was younger and saw it, I thought it was allright... but having seen it half a dozen times over the years I just realized that it's crappy. I still like the 2nd and 3rd one though. Hooper a good filmmaker? Nah.
Yes - Romero is a hack... he can't direct a good film. Night and Dawn worked because of the time they were released. His abilities didn't grow beyond the cheap juvenile nature of late 70s and early 80s cinema.
I didn't say that Toby was a hack BECAUSE he has good films under his belt. I said he was a hack WITH a few good films under his belt. There is a difference. The difference between Romero and Hooper is that I think Hooper is at least capable of making a good film today... Romero I have zero faith in.
I thought TCM was awful... I mean, when I was younger and saw it, I thought it was allright... but having seen it half a dozen times over the years I just realized that it's crappy. I still like the 2nd and 3rd one though. Hooper a good filmmaker? Nah.
It's safe to say: opinion=whether or not a director is a hack or not.............in your eyes.
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Originally posted by Jackskeleton
Romero's downfall was he could not blend into this being a business. He could have easily taken advantage of NIGHT and rode the wave after that but he choose to go the more "indy" route which landed him on the shit list of major studios which he is now begging to fund his projects. He isn't a comercial director and in the long run, not matter how good your art is, if it doesn't pay the bills it doesn't make the grade.
Romero's downfall was he could not blend into this being a business. He could have easily taken advantage of NIGHT and rode the wave after that but he choose to go the more "indy" route which landed him on the shit list of major studios which he is now begging to fund his projects. He isn't a comercial director and in the long run, not matter how good your art is, if it doesn't pay the bills it doesn't make the grade.
Yep. Money is the bottomline and if you don't conform to Hollywood you will get plowed under. Kiss butt and eat sh*t and smile. That's way things work out there isn't it?
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Originally posted by Rival11
It's safe to say: opinion=whether or not a director is a hack or not.............in your eyes.
It's safe to say: opinion=whether or not a director is a hack or not.............in your eyes.
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There is nothing wrong with comforming to the hollywood machine. You can still practice your craft using their tools. Many directors do the safe pictures that will get the studios attention and then when they are grounded deep enough, they go for those pictures they really want to make. It's about making money. It's a business and needs to be played smart. simple as that. You try to go against the grain and you will find yourself fighting an uphill battle. No need to make the fight harder then it already is.
When I re-read what I wrote it really doesn't sound all that "Educated". But the point was made regardless of how terribly written it was.
An educated reply indeed