This is what is wrong with Hollywood
 

From Imdb.com:

Hollywood rivals Julia Roberts and Catherine Zeta-Jones are reportedly feuding over who gets the best outfits in upcoming movie sequel Ocean's Twelve. The Oscar winners reportedly fell out on the set of 2001 comedy America's Sweethearts - and are now battling it out on the sequel to 2001 heist thriller Ocean's Eleven. Roberts - who starred in the first film - is alleged to have exploded after discovering Zeta-Jones' more glamorous wardrobe. An onset source tells British newspaper the Daily Mirror, "Julia didn't like the clothing she was to wear, especially when she got a look at the gorgeous stuff Catherine had lined up." Roberts has also reportedly insisted producers change the script so her character - the girlfriend of George Clooney's Danny Ocean - isn't pregnant, because she didn't want to carry an unflattering bump.

If Julia Roberts doesn't want an unflattering bump, why hasn't she gotten a nose job?

That's not the problem with Hollywood, it's the problem with Julia Roberts. Grr.

celebritys have always done whatever they want and will continue to do so, I guess Hollywood is doomed then if this is the problem

Nice to see film being treated as an artform. :rolleyes:


BTW, this is one of the many many many things that's wrong with Hollywood.

I'd say making a movie like "Ocean's 12" is a bigger indication of what's wrong with Hollywood than self centered stars on a tirade.

We have a winner!

Well Catherine Zeta Jones is wayyyy hotter than Julia so I say they drop Julia like a bad habit.

Yeah, this is obviously a legitimate story. You can always trust IMDB.com and The Daily Mirror. :rolleyes: I can make up a "story" just as well as they can.

I know caiman and you, sir, are no ciaman!

Ocean's 11 was a pretty amusing film, had a few genuine laughs mostly due to Carl Reiner, but this is the part I remember laughing at in the theatre the most during it's initial release:

It's shortly after the scene where Julia Roberts appears for the first time, saunters down the escalator in slow-motion, super close-up on her tight red dress and her face as Brad Pitt seems to look on in awe. A scene later he and George Clooney are gabbing about her then Pitt exclaims, "She looked good."

I bust a gut laughing right then and there at the mere thought that anyone would find this lanky, aging, wombat-faced primadonna with Mr. Ed's teeth and gums to be hot. If you do, gimme the number of your dealer 'cause I wanna try what kind of seriously potent crack rocks you're smoking.

Thank you! I thought I was the only one who felt this way. "Pretty Woman" - she wishes.

Maybe it's just a friendly rivlary.

I love how people express their distaste for celbrities by saying they are fugly. Julia doesn't do it for me, but ugly? C'mon. If a girl who looked like her came up to you in a bar and started chatting, you'd be drooling inside as you wondered to yourself "why's this hot chick talking to ME?" :lol:

Maybe but she would be producing drool at twice the rate with that horses mouth she has.

She isn't ugly. She just isn't as attractive that everyone makes her out to be.

All that being said, I agree with the above mentioned comment, drop her. Her character wasn't all that impressive, plus it would give more screen time to CZJ. :up:

Also, not only should they make her pregnant, they should make her have a crooked nose, and a wart with big hairs popping out of it. How else will she ever win another oscar? -rolleyes-

Jason beat me to it! I think the fact that there is going to be an Ocean's 12 (let alone the fact that there was a remake of Ocean's 11!) is more of an indicator as to what Hollywood has become.

I say give CZJ less wardrobe!

Who knew that CZJ would have time to make a movie between all of her T-Mobile commercials?

Fun entertainment?

One man's entertainment is another man's vomit.

Which is why i think criticizing the state of Hollywood because a sequel to a highly successful remake is rather silly.

I agree.

Cathy Z is gonna eclipse Roberts in Ocean's 12. Especially since Cathy Z and George Clooney have such awesome onscreen chemistry.

this is why mainstream crap is suck!

And so spoke the guy whose name comes from "Star Wars" and who quotes "Matrix Revolutions" in his sig.

:lol:

Yeah, but she plays the ex of Pitt's character. So I doubt they will have much screen time together. Maybe as much as Pitt and Roberts in the first one.

:)

It don't matter.....My eyes will be glued on Cathy Z. :drool:

Thank you. You speak so eloquently for so many of us.

though they are blockbusters...they are hardly mainstream...Star Wars is a Samurai epic in space...and Matrix is a philosophical action/sci-fi film...

Now you are just speaking crazy talk. Has there ever been a movie more mainstream than The Phantom Menace? Do you remember all the hype and promotion that led up to that one?

I love the movies, all 5 of them. But to say it isn't mainstream is a little loco. Just look at the ridiculous box office takes from each movie.

Oh yeah. Catherine Zeta Jones is irritating and her on screen chemistry with George Clooney was awful. The only "intolerable cruelty" of their movie was that I actually sat through it until the end.

Mate, you can't have a blockbuster without being mainstream. The two go hand-in-hand.

Just admit it: you got GrouchOwned!

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I can understand anti-mainstream Hollywood sentiment... most of what they turn out is indeed crap.

However, has anyone actually watched the original Ocean's 11 for anything more than a fond recollection of the glory days of the rat pack? It's really not a very good film.

Saying that what's wrong with Hollywood is that they update already good movies to capitalize on a new audience isn't really looking at the big picture; it's not remakes, it's their perpetual desire to turn out lowest common denominator crap, screwing new artists with an original vision and bowing to pressure from a general public who nary wants to strain a brain cell when they go to the movies. Oh but wait, that's the business as dictated by the consumer. We can blame Hollywood all we want but until the zombies stop flocking to see movies starring Ashton Kutcher and Tara Reid, Hollywood's not going to stop... and why should they?

And to dismiss the Ocean's 11 remake as generic Hollywood crap is a teeny bit shortsighted. At least Ocean's 11 had style, a fun cast and a very capable director who tells good stories. It was a fun popcorn movie that succeeded in it's intentions. This tendency to dismiss a film just because it's a cog in the Hollywood system is ridiculous - it's just as much a problem as Joe Six Pack labelling all independent and foreign film "boring."

And, back on topic, the imdb news is almost as reliable as the Enquirer. Until I see a catfight on the Special Edition DVD, it's just a fun rumor to toss around the water cooler.

Well, that took up a good chunk of work time! Back to business.

It wouls seem to me that not making Roberts' character pregnant is a good idea for the simple fact that its a movie sequel cliche . The one thing this movie doesn't need is the Adrian Balboa character convincing Rocky to give up he game. It certainly doesn't need a manic Danny Ocean freaking out at contractions followed by a love conquers all delivery scene.

My hopes will fall for the movie is Tess is pregnant.

oh yeah, because the plot is sooooo important in a film like this . . .

What's wrong with Hollywood is the assumption that amassing ego upon ego on the screen makes for a worthwhile film. Odd that the same characteristics make it a bankable film.

And using the term thriller in relation to either version of Ocean's Eleven. Sorry, that's just wrong.

Star Wars isn't mainstream? Haha, now THAT'S funny. The movie that is the definition of the mainstream blockbuster and the inspiration for many another one is somehow...not mainstream. I can't even fathom.

But this bagging on Ocean's 11...I don't get it. While this stupid cat fighting is lame, especially since Julia Robert's presence in Ocean's 11 added little to nothing. But CZJ...is always welcome...drool.

But Ocean's 11 is indicative of everything that IS right in Hollywood. Sure it's a remake, sure it's a big budget star driven vehicle. But you know what? That's what the mainstream wants, that's what Hollywood does. And Ocean's 11 is at the top of its game in being a fun piece of slick entertainment. In my opinion, it stands as an example of Hollywood doing what it does best. But I know some people hate films that appeal to lots of people and have enormous marketing potential, even if they're well made and a lot of fun.

Having fun with the nitrus oxide tank again, Pixy?

Successful does not equal good.