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Old 04-12-04 | 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by MrN
I know they explained this in the trailer but I forget if it was in the movie.

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This is supposed to be a medical fact - 21 grams is the weight of the air in the lungs. A more poetic interpretation is that it's the 'soul' leaving the body.
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I think the math is a little off here. Air weighs about 0.00129 g per cubic cm. Assuming that you have about 5 liters of air in your lungs (that is very much for an untrained person, but let's go with it), you would have about 6.45 grams of air in your lungs.

If - during your last exhale - you would have to lose 21 grams, your lung capacity should be over 16 liter, which nobody has.
Old 04-12-04 | 01:44 PM
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I made a blind buy on this, and was glad I did. It's a great film, with top notch acting.

I disagree that the editing was a gimmick. Having stuff out of order forces the viewer to pay more attention. As such you notice the intricacies more, appreciate the acting more etc.

Or at least that's the effect it had on me. It kept more more engaged in the film. Not to mention, that the plot is pretty thin and would likely have been rather dull if shown in order.
Old 04-12-04 | 02:17 PM
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You don't lose 21 grams at death. It's an old saying, and it was used for artistic purposes. No claims to medical accuracy on that one.
Old 04-12-04 | 09:39 PM
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Just got done watching it. I thought the acting was amazing, the look was perfect, and in my opinion, nothing was overdone. worth a buy? well, not for me (decided to rent after reading all the comments - thanks everyone) but I can definitely understand why people would want to shell out the cash for this great movie.
Old 04-24-04 | 08:39 PM
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Liked the movie but as others have said, without the great acting this would not even be as good as it is.

Now a question about the ending:

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What does the monologue by Sean Penn at the end of the movie mean when he says everyone loses 21 grams when they die?? This makes no sense to me at all.
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Losing 21 grams is fiction not fact, just fiction. As far as the story goes, each person "dies" at some point, the question is exactly what point in life do you actually die. In some ways, the characters all died before their physical deaths.


BTW: I think the way they edited the film was a plus, not a minus. I think this film would lose a little if it were told in the actual order it happened. It had me thinking I knew what was going on an in the end, things were different than they seemed.

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Old 06-17-04 | 09:55 PM
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Just finished watching this one, and I have to say I enjoyed it quite a bit. It was kind of weird for me because I watched Mystic River last night and seeing so much Penn in a 24 hour period got me a bit confused.

Overall, I loved the pacing, learned to love the editing (as it was a bit challenging to piece things together at first), and the performances were top notch. Definitely worth a rental, don't know if I'd want to watch it over and over. If you're on the fence about this one, check it out! Can't complain about Naomi Watts either.

Something I noticed: Sean Penn's friend at his post-surgery party in 21 Grams (the one who catches food in his mouth) is played by the same actor that plays one of the crazy brothers (Jimmy's friends) in Mystic River. Coincidence or Bizzaro world?
Old 06-18-04 | 03:05 AM
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As the movie title suggests, it's Mulholland Dr + Momento + OD on coke. I hate it. Good think I have netflix and I always screen before buying the actual movie.
Old 06-18-04 | 03:10 AM
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It just came to the cinema here (Turkey), so I watched it last nite out of sequence too. Agree with the comments that editing made the film, Watts was terrific, Penn & Del Toro played their roles from other films.

Just wondering. Does the DVD have seperate chapters for all the sequences? If so, you could random play it and perhaps get a better, or more confused, sequence. A chance to re-edit - just for the fun of it.
Old 06-18-04 | 08:13 AM
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Personally, I think it's an excellent movie. Just extremely depressing. Keep that in mind before viewing it. All three leads were outstanding. And I thought Sean Penn should have been nominated (and won) was this role.
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I really liked the film, but the first thing I thought at the end was that without the weird editing it would have seemed nearly as good, dull in fact.
Old 06-18-04 | 04:24 PM
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I bought two copies the morning it was on the shelves

We also drove the state searching for the theater that showed it here back when it premiered. I've heard on here that it's getting re-released in SE form so I'll wait for the SE if you haven't picked up the bare-bones yet.
Old 06-18-04 | 10:56 PM
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I loved the film also

I thought all the leads were very good but really thought Watts shined in it.
Old 06-21-04 | 09:02 AM
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Yep, definitely waiting for the SE on this one.
Old 04-05-06 | 03:59 PM
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Saw this one again the other night. Great flick. Even though it's depressing, I can't recommend this enough. Amazing performances by the 3 leads.
Old 04-05-06 | 04:46 PM
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Saw this one again the other night. Great flick. Even though it's depressing, I can't recommend this enough. Amazing performances by the 3 leads.
in 100% agreeance.
Old 04-05-06 | 05:01 PM
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Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu is one of my favorite directors, and that's based solely on my exposure to two feature films and two short films that he directed..

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Old 04-06-06 | 07:19 AM
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I'm such a big fan of Iñarritu that I drove the 2½ hours to NYC to catch this when it premiered. I liked it when I saw it and I bought it the day it came out but I haven't gone back to seen it yet. I think the movies high points are lower than the ones in Amores Perros, but I still don't like the middle third of Amores Perros, so the valleys are less deep. A good film to me.
Old 04-06-06 | 07:48 AM
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I've had this DVD for about 2 years, and I've yet to watch it. Maybe I'll give it a view this weekend.
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Easily one of the very best films of 2003. I cannot imagine why anyone would want to watch it in chronological order.

That being said, there are two reasons why I do not own the DVD. One, it is virtually without features at all and I am convinced that someday they will release a better one. Two, it is not a film that has a lot of rewatchability.
Old 04-07-06 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Leedguitar
I've had this DVD for about 2 years, and I've yet to watch it. Maybe I'll give it a view this weekend.
I bought it 2 years ago or so, just like you, and never got around to watching it. Until last night. Excellent movie. You should watch it this weekend!

I agree that the non-chronological editing added to the movie. It made me pay attention and really try to follow what was going on. The performances by Penn, Watts, and Del Toro were all top-notch.

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