Call me a semi-fan of the Star Wars Saga, and all I see, everytime Star Wars in mentioned is this thing with Greedo shooting first.

Whats the problem? Surely they're Lucas' movies to do what he wants? Is there some massive plot hole left by him shooting first?

I changes the character of Han Solo, makes him softer.

That's it?

the "fanboys" complain that it makes Han seem weak and a sissy. in the original movie, he just shot greedo, and also greedo shooting first didn't look realistic anyway.

It changes it from Solo being a ruthless killer to doing it in self defense.

And also it makes Greedo a horrible shot. It just looks silly, even if you ignore the "softness" factor.

It makes Greedo an extremely bad shot for a bounty hunter.

It's symbolic of everything that is wrong with the Special Editions.

Screw the Greedo thing; the change I hate the most about the SEs is the horrid CGI song-and-dance sequence they added to ROTJ. For some reason this rarely gets mentioned in all the Star Wars SE bashing threads.

What IS wrong with them? They're the same movies... The bad guys don't win or anything

EXACTLY...if he shoots first and he's sitting two feet from Han, why does he miss by a yard?!

Exactly, ROTJ is unwatchable, $crew Luca$

I know exactly why this was changed...because in the original version the song was "Celebrate The Lord" and George Lucas got a lot of bashing from fans who claimed this made the movie too "religious"...so he changed it! This is one case where fan pressure has made the movie WORSE.

Does this really have to turn into a 'Screw Lucas' thread? I mean, without him, there's no movies period. Then you'd be missing out on something that clearly means a lot to you.

And I don't think, using any type of rational judgement, that you can accuse George Lucas of changing these movies to make more money... he's a film-maker, and he wants the films to be as good as they can. Is anyone going to chastise Peter Jackson if he updates the first LOTR to better animate the little-seen Gollum?

Hey, at least no one has started the whole Star Wars vs LOTR thing.

Oh shi

O rly?

What's going on? Both caiman's and Jackskeleton's keyboards are goin out.

Is there som knd of vrus goin arnd . . . ?

Oh crp . . .

If you're going to constantly change and improve on an original film, why bother to release it in the first place?

Why are fans so pissy? Because they paid money to see the original in theaters, to buy the video, to buy the laser disc, to pay for the re-issue SE movies, to buy the re-issue vhs, the special edition vhs, the import SE laser discs, etc etc etc.

****ing be done with it instead of milking the cash cow dry. It's not whole milk anymore, now it's non-fat. Very diferent from the original.

There are also lot of people who agree with you vedder. I don't mind the change, but I must admit, I think it probably could have been implemented better.

Where in the world did your information come from?!

First of all we're talking about the "Jedi Rocks" musical number in Jaba's Palace. You seem to be talking about the old song that was sung at the conclusion of the film. This song did not contain the words "Celebrate The Lord".

It's like you're trying to invent your own urban legend.

That's the only change in the SE's that bothers me.

As others said, it changes Hans whole character development. Before he shot first, as in the beginning of the trilogy he's just a ruthless bounty hunter that only cares about himself. The change takes away from this edge, and lessens his development.

On top of that, it just looks plain stupid. No one it going to miss from the other side of a table, especially not a big time bounty hunter who would have to be skilled with weaponary.

I LOVE SWs but this has always been a "Who really cares" issue with me. Sept. 21st needs to get here!

A big fat "it doesnt change anything" for me. Its a tiny detail that most people would overlook. I can see how die hard fans would be angry, but outside of those fans i dont think anyone would really give the change a second glance about it actually affecting how Han's character develops.

Actually, it was the cameo by Jesus Christ, who can be seen dancing with Yoda and Ben Kenobi at the end of the film, that did it.