Movie Cliches we accept/dismiss while viewing.
#77
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I can not beleive no one mentioned this one. A good guy taking on multiple foes in a fight. The bad guys all attack one at a time, making their numbers almost useless. Why not all attack at once, or when he is occupied with another bad guy?
Also on this, when the bad guy has a weapon and just stands there while the good guy gives a speech, then allows the good guy to get the drop on them and shoot/attack first killing the villain. Why not shoot the good guy while he is in the middle of his rant?
Also on this, when the bad guy has a weapon and just stands there while the good guy gives a speech, then allows the good guy to get the drop on them and shoot/attack first killing the villain. Why not shoot the good guy while he is in the middle of his rant?
#78
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Originally posted by cross
Villian always leaving right after tying up the superhero to the slow moving death machine, right after of course revealing his sinister plan to blow up something.
MY GOD... JUST WAIT TILL BATMAN DIES BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE ROOM WILL YOU !
Villian always leaving right after tying up the superhero to the slow moving death machine, right after of course revealing his sinister plan to blow up something.
MY GOD... JUST WAIT TILL BATMAN DIES BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE ROOM WILL YOU !
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Originally posted by Michael Corvin
Anyway, another one..
no one ever uses razors (regular or electric). In the movies, guys only shave with straight razor blades. Or a really sharp hunting knife.
Anyway, another one..
no one ever uses razors (regular or electric). In the movies, guys only shave with straight razor blades. Or a really sharp hunting knife.
The cliche I hate is they dramatize the dog always surviving. Take ID4. They had a slow-mo shot of the dog leaping into the utility closet, with the flames roaring past in the tunnel.
A related cliche is that people will put themselves in ridiculously stupid levels of danger for said dog. Dawn of the Dead.
#81
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Originally posted by Michael Corvin
you forgot..
"I can't believe you shot me!"
Anyway, another one..
no one ever uses razors (regular or electric). In the movies, guys only shave with straight razor blades. Or a really sharp hunting knife.
you forgot..
"I can't believe you shot me!"
Anyway, another one..
no one ever uses razors (regular or electric). In the movies, guys only shave with straight razor blades. Or a really sharp hunting knife.
#82
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Didn't take time to read the entire thread - but did anyone mention the phone tracing thing? In movies, when the good guys are trying to trace the bad guys over the phone - the bad guy always hangs up right before they are able to pinpoint the location of the call. In real life, technology is advanced enough that you can find out the source immediately...like one second.
Another thing that bothers me is when they put a fingerprint in a computer and match it to a face in a matter of seconds. Doesn't work that way...it takes about hours to match a fingerprint to a person - and that's only if it gets priority. And there are no computer systems that do this - it's done on a computer, but the computer doesn't do the match for you...you have to compare the prints to a "likely" match yourself.
This should be one of Ebert's movie laws: Technology is only as advanced or primitive as is necessary to the storyline.
Another thing that bothers me is when they put a fingerprint in a computer and match it to a face in a matter of seconds. Doesn't work that way...it takes about hours to match a fingerprint to a person - and that's only if it gets priority. And there are no computer systems that do this - it's done on a computer, but the computer doesn't do the match for you...you have to compare the prints to a "likely" match yourself.
This should be one of Ebert's movie laws: Technology is only as advanced or primitive as is necessary to the storyline.
Last edited by Shannon Nutt; 04-08-04 at 02:59 PM.
#83
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-- People dying immediately from a gunshot wound to the stomach.
While, supposedly one of the more painfull places to be shot, it also is supposed to be the place where, if shot, you are likely to last the longest before dying.
-- High tech, interactive, 3-D, VR computer interfaces . . .
Edit: Sorry if either has been mentioned already . . . by the time I joined in, the thread was too long for me to look back through all of the posts.
While, supposedly one of the more painfull places to be shot, it also is supposed to be the place where, if shot, you are likely to last the longest before dying.
-- High tech, interactive, 3-D, VR computer interfaces . . .
Edit: Sorry if either has been mentioned already . . . by the time I joined in, the thread was too long for me to look back through all of the posts.
Last edited by talemyn; 04-08-04 at 10:59 PM.
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I think structure is a big cliche in Hollywood. We see the star in the first five minutes, and the same goes for the costars. Look at Seven Samurai, in which it takes 18 minutes before we see the first major samurai character. Mifune actually returns at the 55 minute mark. And the bandits don't even come back until at least the mid-point. Most movies you know what's going to happen because you've been down that road before.... and that's due to structure, I think.
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Originally posted by Shannon Nutt
Didn't take time to read the entire thread - but did anyone mention the phone tracing thing? In movies, when the good guys are trying to trace the bad guys over the phone - the bad guy always hangs up right before they are able to pinpoint the location of the call. In real life, technology is advanced enough that you can find out the source immediately...like one second.
Didn't take time to read the entire thread - but did anyone mention the phone tracing thing? In movies, when the good guys are trying to trace the bad guys over the phone - the bad guy always hangs up right before they are able to pinpoint the location of the call. In real life, technology is advanced enough that you can find out the source immediately...like one second.
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Happens more so on tv, but how about when people leave the house with every bloomin' light still on and sometimes the tv thrown in for good measure. Guess these people don't have to pay a power bill.
#89
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Originally posted by Groucho
I've never tried it, but I see no reason why a "Wake Up Kiss" wouldn't work in real life.
I've never tried it, but I see no reason why a "Wake Up Kiss" wouldn't work in real life.
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Originally posted by Michael Corvin
taking a grainy security camera tape of a villian who is 30 feet away and they can zoom in and sharpen the image perfectly to see who it is. IMPOSSIBLE!
taking a grainy security camera tape of a villian who is 30 feet away and they can zoom in and sharpen the image perfectly to see who it is. IMPOSSIBLE!
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Originally posted by Drexl
Sounds and explosions in space-would movies like Star Wars be as exciting without them?
Sounds and explosions in space-would movies like Star Wars be as exciting without them?
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Originally posted by kcbrett5
Can you prove that there is no sound in space? There are definitely explosions, so I am not sure what your point is.
Can you prove that there is no sound in space? There are definitely explosions, so I am not sure what your point is.
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While true that explosions at a distance you wouldn't hear in space, but if you were within an explosion itself enough atmosphere may exist for year to hear it. If you're at a distance but close enough for the physical effect to reach you, the suit you're wearing may feel enough for you to hear a sound conducted through the suit and atmosphere contained within.
#94
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Stupid love interests in comic-book films, even good ones(ie. Batman, Spiderman, Superman, the Jean Grey/Logan/Cyclops BS), that are there in a lame attempt to appeal to some females in the audience. When are people gonna realize and admit that comic-books are mostly a guy thing? Adding these predictable characters like Mary Jane, Vicki Vale etc. etc. who really never add nothing to the story or mythos and must always be saved by the hero at the very end always hurts these films. FOCUS ON THE MAIN CHARACTER!
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Wouldn't you have to blame the creators of the comics themselves? I guess you want your superheros asexual, but I prefer some eyecandy.
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I started an earlier thread like this about what happens in films, but I'll add a few more I've noticed:
In a horror film, 2 people are talking and it goes like this:
girl 1 " are you scared?"
girl 2 " no "
girl 1 " you should be"
In Steven Seagal films were when he is fighting 5 men, it's amazing that after he has just taken down four of them the last one thinks he can have him,probably on the basis that Seagal now must be soo tired now and he can make a difference.If it was me I'll be out the door.
Also in regards to all the cellphones allways being in service range, I'll like to point out Way of the gun changed this.
In a horror film, 2 people are talking and it goes like this:
girl 1 " are you scared?"
girl 2 " no "
girl 1 " you should be"
In Steven Seagal films were when he is fighting 5 men, it's amazing that after he has just taken down four of them the last one thinks he can have him,probably on the basis that Seagal now must be soo tired now and he can make a difference.If it was me I'll be out the door.
Also in regards to all the cellphones allways being in service range, I'll like to point out Way of the gun changed this.
#98
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Originally posted by Brain Stew
Interestingly, this sort of plot device has been around since the theatre's inception in ancient Greece. The term for it is, deus ex machina.
The term comes from the appearance of an insoluble crisis that is solved by the intervention of a god, often brought on stage by an elaborate piece of equipment. This "god from the machine" was literally a deus ex machina.
Despite my appreciation for its historical roots, I still believe that a deus ex machina has no place in a modern script.
Interestingly, this sort of plot device has been around since the theatre's inception in ancient Greece. The term for it is, deus ex machina.
The term comes from the appearance of an insoluble crisis that is solved by the intervention of a god, often brought on stage by an elaborate piece of equipment. This "god from the machine" was literally a deus ex machina.
Despite my appreciation for its historical roots, I still believe that a deus ex machina has no place in a modern script.
As for film clichés, one that I hate is when characters outrun the fireball from a large explosion. Sorry, but no one can run that fast!
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