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View Poll Results: What film should have won best picture in 1977?
Annie Hall
129
44.48%
Star Wars
144
49.66%
The Goodbye Girl
5
1.72%
Julia
3
1.03%
The Turning Point
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9
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STAR WARS vs. ANNIE HALL

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Old 01-12-12 | 01:32 PM
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I had long heard that Malick's first two films were vigorously defended by a handful of critics, while most critics either shrugged or tore the films apart. After doing a little more research, I see that Ash's recollections are correct and that, though there were (as with any highly acclaimed film) some very negative reviews, they were pretty widely acclaimed upon initial release (though they still didn't make much money.) Dave Kehr (who raved about Days of Heaven in 1978) writes:
Adrian, your recollection of the reception accorded “Days of Heaven” is quite different from mine. 1978 was the first year I attended the voting meeting of the National Society of Film Critics, and I flew from Chicago to New York a day early in order to see “Days of Heaven” in 70 millimeter at one of the now-closed Third Avenue theaters. I was, obviously, knocked out by the film and was happy to join the large block of critics voting for it at the meeting the next day. It was neck and neck between “Days” and “The Deer Hunter” (which I did not care for) and the voting went through several ballots before Pauline Kael put her voting bloc behind that immortal classic “Get Out Your Handkerchiefs,” which won the best picture award and went on to the total obscurity it so richly deserves. In any case there was certainly widespread critical support for “Days,” as there had been for “Badlands,” when it first appeared. Not every movie conforms to the romantic myth of the misunderstood masterpiece, and Malick, who has enjoyed the patronage of some very powerful Hollywood figures ever since (and good for him!), is not Vincent Van Gogh.
And I'm going to stop posting here, since we're completely off topic. Sorry.
Old 01-12-12 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Sondheim
The New World still needs more recognition for being the best film of the 00s.
Bela Tarr & Werckmeister Harmonies disagree.
Old 01-12-12 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by inri222
Bela Tarr & Werckmeister Harmonies disagree.
That's fine that they disagree. They're wrong.

(I have a hard time with Tarr's films, and haven't really loved any of the four films of his that I've seen.)

And this really is my last post on this topic in this thread.
Old 01-12-12 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sondheim
I And I'm going to stop posting here, since we're completely off topic.
Actually, none of this has been off-topic, since it seems to be a natural outgrowth of the Star Wars vs. Annie Hall question and has turned this entire thread into one of the most interesting discussions I've ever participated in here. And, besides, you've encouraged me to finally pull out my copy of THE NEW WORLD and finally watch it--but only if I can find the right moment when I'm patient and relaxed enough to let it "wash over me."
Old 01-12-12 | 02:50 PM
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Tree of Life is a beautiful film and if you "let it wash over you," you will see the epic scope of what Malick tried to do. He may have failed at least in the narrative part (the whole Sean Penn thing) but he totally succeeded in making a testament to God or nature or whatever you want to call it.
Old 01-13-12 | 01:15 PM
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Annie Hall won because Academy voters are adults, not children. We all grew up watching Star Wars, and it wowed us from childhood and we still regard it the way we did when we first saw it as excited, wide-eyed kids. But how many adults, seeing Star Wars for the first time, would be as wowed? Have you ever seen a grown-up watch Star Wars for the first time? They generally don't go apeshit for it the way kids do.
You are mistaken. I saw Star Wars as an adult in May 1977 (and five more times after that) and can say that the movie was very well received by adults and was recognized immediately for being a groundbreaking movie in many respects. It is hard to overstate the cultural impact it had at the time; I can't think of anything more recent I could compare it to.

Seeing the movie for the first time years later is a completely different experience because many of the things that made Star Wars a phenomenal success had become commonplace and because the notoriety of the movie is bound to bias later viewers. As an example, I've never seen the popular movies E.T. or Jaws. But those movies are so well known that I could never see them "cold" because I've seen and read too many things about them to be unbiased.
Old 01-14-12 | 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Sondheim
Nah. If anything, in spite of the high ranking of some of his films, he's still slightly underrated as a filmmaker. The New World still needs more recognition for being one of the best films of the 00s.
I love this film. But obviously that recognition goes to City of God.

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