Do you ever feel like "I'm not buying it" in a movie?
02-06-04, 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by Groucho
No kidding. I can just see P.T. Anderson writing the script: "I love the whole idea of an estranged father dying of cancer that I'll use it not in just one storyline, but TWO!"
No kidding. I can just see P.T. Anderson writing the script: "I love the whole idea of an estranged father dying of cancer that I'll use it not in just one storyline, but TWO!"
02-06-04, 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by jaeufraser
I didn't go into detail...in that section Heath Ledger's girl and her family are herded into a church and burned alive. The movie was just so poor IMO, and so lacking in the dramatic punch the film thought it had (god it wanted to be Braveheart SOOOO badly) that I was happy to see these ridiculous one dimensional, goofy and melodramatic characters die. Such an act in a film like this should be quite disturbing and emotional. The fact I was just happy to see these people die and get off the damn screen just points to my dislike of this poor movie.
I didn't go into detail...in that section Heath Ledger's girl and her family are herded into a church and burned alive. The movie was just so poor IMO, and so lacking in the dramatic punch the film thought it had (god it wanted to be Braveheart SOOOO badly) that I was happy to see these ridiculous one dimensional, goofy and melodramatic characters die. Such an act in a film like this should be quite disturbing and emotional. The fact I was just happy to see these people die and get off the damn screen just points to my dislike of this poor movie.
Ok fair enough.
I really like the movie but I can see your point.
02-06-04, 12:46 PM
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The biggest one for me is Deep Impact. I wasn't necessary enjoying the movie, but I wasn't hating it either. Until it got to the scene where
. That was the most painfully sappy piece of crap scene I've ever seen. People complain about Bruce Willis' last scene in Armageddon, but this is that scene replayed four or five times consecutively! It just gets worse from there. Tea Leone and her dad, Frodo on his moped, all supposed to be high emotional moments. I was too busy laughing my ass off and getting angry looks from nearby girls who were crying into their tissues. Bah.
Second worst is John Q. They try to make a statement, but the silly melodrama in the ER with cliched characters, the way-too-obvious 10th grade-level debates masquerading as dialogue, and the over-the-top villainizing of Ray Liotta and Anne Heche's characters destroy any message they are trying to get across.
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Second worst is John Q. They try to make a statement, but the silly melodrama in the ER with cliched characters, the way-too-obvious 10th grade-level debates masquerading as dialogue, and the over-the-top villainizing of Ray Liotta and Anne Heche's characters destroy any message they are trying to get across.
02-06-04, 02:18 PM
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Re: Do you ever feel like "I'm not buying it" in a movie?
Originally posted by lesterlong
Now, I'm not talking about technical things in movies like blowing up an asteroid with a nuke. I'm talking about dramatic films. You go see a movie that's supposed to be taken pretty seriously and the movie just tries too hard to be great when it isn't. This really doesn't happen too much but 2 movies come to mind We Were Soldiers and Cold Mountain. We Were Soldiers because the movie had to throw in ridiculous unnecessary comments about racism and the fact that Chris Klein sucks. Cold Mountain because there pretty much was no story and none of the characters knew what they wanted and because the villain pretty much had zero development.
Now, I'm not talking about technical things in movies like blowing up an asteroid with a nuke. I'm talking about dramatic films. You go see a movie that's supposed to be taken pretty seriously and the movie just tries too hard to be great when it isn't. This really doesn't happen too much but 2 movies come to mind We Were Soldiers and Cold Mountain. We Were Soldiers because the movie had to throw in ridiculous unnecessary comments about racism and the fact that Chris Klein sucks. Cold Mountain because there pretty much was no story and none of the characters knew what they wanted and because the villain pretty much had zero development.
I felt the exact way while watching Seabiscuit.
02-06-04, 02:21 PM
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Re: Re: Do you ever feel like "I'm not buying it" in a movie?
Originally posted by jayson1017
I felt the exact way while watching Seabiscuit.
I felt the exact way while watching Seabiscuit.
02-06-04, 03:31 PM
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Pearl Harbor! I sat through hours of this turd to watch the airplane fight and what a farce!
So I’m to believe that every pilot, American and Japanese fly like normal people and the love triangle dudes are Waldo Pepper and Han Solo. I can’t believe I waited through that flick for that terrible battle scene.
I don’t usually use the term “wasted 2 hours of my life” because I can usually be entertained by something in a bad movie, but not with this one
(And there was still an hour to go! I never got a disc out of my player faster than that one.)
So I’m to believe that every pilot, American and Japanese fly like normal people and the love triangle dudes are Waldo Pepper and Han Solo. I can’t believe I waited through that flick for that terrible battle scene.
I don’t usually use the term “wasted 2 hours of my life” because I can usually be entertained by something in a bad movie, but not with this one
(And there was still an hour to go! I never got a disc out of my player faster than that one.)
02-06-04, 03:52 PM
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Really didn't like "Thin Red Line" very much. Waaay too intellectual for a movie about Guadalcanal. Especially for the general enlisted men IMO (compare it to the book for instance).
I saw another movie about Guadalcanal on TCM a few weeks ago that seemed considerably more "realistic" comparably speaking - though the name escapes me offhand. Had a good jungle juice making scene though.
I saw another movie about Guadalcanal on TCM a few weeks ago that seemed considerably more "realistic" comparably speaking - though the name escapes me offhand. Had a good jungle juice making scene though.
02-06-04, 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by movielib
Every character in Requiem for a Dream, Ellen Burstyn particularly. No one with a cerebral cortex is that stupid.
Every character in Requiem for a Dream, Ellen Burstyn particularly. No one with a cerebral cortex is that stupid.
This movie conveys what it's like to experience drug addiction, and I think it did an excellent job.
02-06-04, 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by sundog
Magnolia also purports to be about different people. But everyone was entrenched in UTTER DESPAIR AND LOATHING. Yawn. Variation on a theme helps. Really, it does.
Magnolia also purports to be about different people. But everyone was entrenched in UTTER DESPAIR AND LOATHING. Yawn. Variation on a theme helps. Really, it does.
Originally posted by Groucho
Magnolia tells us it's going to be about remarkable coincidence, but suddenly abandons that premise as soon as the marvelous introduction ends.
Magnolia tells us it's going to be about remarkable coincidence, but suddenly abandons that premise as soon as the marvelous introduction ends.
Does anyone here even know what the premise of this movie is? What this "coincidence" is that Anderson is talking about?
02-06-04, 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by CUBuffsMike41
But the "utter despair and loathing" ****s up their lives in different ways. There is plenty of variety in each character. The psychosis overlapped, while examining the various ways in which dysfunctional people interact in our society.
There is remarkable coincidence in the various characters and the ways their relationships and lives unfold, which is the point of the movie..
Does anyone here even know what the premise of this movie is? What this "coincidence" is that Anderson is talking about?
But the "utter despair and loathing" ****s up their lives in different ways. There is plenty of variety in each character. The psychosis overlapped, while examining the various ways in which dysfunctional people interact in our society.
There is remarkable coincidence in the various characters and the ways their relationships and lives unfold, which is the point of the movie..
Does anyone here even know what the premise of this movie is? What this "coincidence" is that Anderson is talking about?
Anderson's self-indulgent filmmaking habits aside, the coincidence intro was necessary if for no other reason than to set up the frogs.
02-06-04, 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by CUBuffsMike41
Do you think most drug addicts are walking around at the top of their game?
This movie conveys what it's like to experience drug addiction, and I think it did an excellent job.
Do you think most drug addicts are walking around at the top of their game?
This movie conveys what it's like to experience drug addiction, and I think it did an excellent job.
02-07-04, 08:11 AM
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Hating to contribute to the lashing "Mystic River" is receiving in this thread, but... I would have to say Kevin Bacon's wife frequently calling and saying nothing was a little much for me.
02-07-04, 03:07 PM
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Yes. I see very few movies at the theatre, so I choose based on some very strict criteria, usually, it's a movie that I anticipate loving. Well, that was not the case for Cold Mountain...that's one I'll have to skip. Everything else that I've seen this year is on my wish list to buy.
02-07-04, 03:15 PM
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Punch Drunk Love.... most irritating, fulsome movie that tries to be something that it is not. It is so insipid that I almost wanted to turn off the DVD player (and would have if I wasn't watching it with my friends).
And Underworld, tried too hard to be like Romeo & Juliet with social commentary of racism and what not. Turns out to be just a bore-fest with very little credibility in ANY of the characters.
And Underworld, tried too hard to be like Romeo & Juliet with social commentary of racism and what not. Turns out to be just a bore-fest with very little credibility in ANY of the characters.
08-25-04, 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by Crocker Jarmen
I'm so easy with my suspension of disbelief, but The Human Stain asked far too much of me. I'm sure Coleman's secret works fine it the book, but in the movie I wasn't buying it. [/B]
I'm so easy with my suspension of disbelief, but The Human Stain asked far too much of me. I'm sure Coleman's secret works fine it the book, but in the movie I wasn't buying it. [/B]
08-25-04, 08:59 AM
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Come on, how does Jason catch up with these people he's chasing, when they are running for their lives and he's simply walking?
Come on, how does Jason catch up with these people he's chasing, when they are running for their lives and he's simply walking?
08-25-04, 09:18 AM
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I liked the film 'Requiem for a dream' but agree that the Ellen Burstyn character comes off in the 'I'm not buying it' way. In the book I thought it was much more effective and 'you get more into the characters head' with her constant mindset of needing and wanting to be 'thin'. In the film obviously it's done over a very short time period and is less believable because of it.
08-25-04, 09:32 AM
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Robin Wright Penn and Gary Sinise stole this movie from Hanks. It's message: Act like a dumbass and you'll be OK in life. As Janeane Garofalo once said, a movie only Tom Hanks/ Meg Ryan/ Dave Mathews Band fans could love.
Most disgusting, one-dimenional jingoistic piece of shit I've seen in recent years.
Insulting piece of garbage.
Pretty entertaining movie. Plays more like a guy's fantasy than a convincing drama however, the dialogues are the typically strained Kevin Smith diatribes and Affleck's next-to-final scene with Adams and Lee where he makes his request is one of the stupidest turns for a seemingly intelligent character in recent memory.
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08-25-04, 09:48 AM
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Describes my impression of the movie to the letter. It's still on my shit list and I despise you for resurrecting it from my vault of repressed memories.
Originally posted by Rivero
Most disgusting, one-dimenional jingoistic piece of shit I've seen in recent years.
Most disgusting, one-dimenional jingoistic piece of shit I've seen in recent years.
08-25-04, 09:54 AM
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Most movies that baffle me with the actions of the characters or outrageous developments at least distance me from the story enough to examine any possible subtext or at least glean a more instinctual response.
Usually this allows me to enjoy the film on a more forgiving level, at times it actually makes the work more interesting, and those few times my opinion of the film skyrockets and I consider it exceptional.
Usually this allows me to enjoy the film on a more forgiving level, at times it actually makes the work more interesting, and those few times my opinion of the film skyrockets and I consider it exceptional.
08-25-04, 09:56 AM
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Pretty much all of One Flew Over the Cookoo's Nest struck me as over simplified and obvious, particularly its treatment of mental illness (none of which is actually real according to the movie, it's just the reaction of sane people to, like, The Man, man). Nurse Ratched is too one-note and one dimensional to be anything resembling human. It amazes me that people love this movie so much or find it revelatory. Manipulative and shallow post-Vietnam hippy-dippy claptrap, if you ask me.