What's up with the big fat goth kid in "The Butterfly Effect"?
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I usually agree with most critics when it comes to movies, but this time I don't quite understand why they hated this movie so much. Was it too dark to even warrant a decent review? I, for one, thoroughly enjoyed this movie for what it was. Is it possible to change the past by reading journal entries? No, of course not. Can Ashton Kutcher act? No, of course not (but at least he tries here).
I'm a sucker for sci-fi stories and movies where you can control time (Back to the Future, Groundhog Day, Frequency) so I just let my mind go and was entertained by where the movie was headed. Although the first half was amazingly depressing, I wasn't bored for a minute and left the theater happy.
If you didn't like the trailer because the idea seemed asinine, then don't see this movie. If you don't like dark material (or aren't mature enough to handle it), then don't see this movie. If you over analyze every movie to the finest detail, then don't see this movie. And if Ashton Kutcher annoys you, then don't see this movie (although he does try to tone it down and play the straight man in this one).
I'm a sucker for sci-fi stories and movies where you can control time (Back to the Future, Groundhog Day, Frequency) so I just let my mind go and was entertained by where the movie was headed. Although the first half was amazingly depressing, I wasn't bored for a minute and left the theater happy.
If you didn't like the trailer because the idea seemed asinine, then don't see this movie. If you don't like dark material (or aren't mature enough to handle it), then don't see this movie. If you over analyze every movie to the finest detail, then don't see this movie. And if Ashton Kutcher annoys you, then don't see this movie (although he does try to tone it down and play the straight man in this one).
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Corvin,
As for the critics, I think the bad reviews are a combination of Kutcher bashing and the fact that there's some pretty hard core stuff presented here that the movie doesn't flinch away from. Personally, I was shocked by how much I liked this movie (and the three people with me all felt the same).
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As for the critics, I think the bad reviews are a combination of Kutcher bashing and the fact that there's some pretty hard core stuff presented here that the movie doesn't flinch away from. Personally, I was shocked by how much I liked this movie (and the three people with me all felt the same).
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Originally posted by devilshalo
So.. after reading people's thought here about the premise of the story.. how does it hold up? Is it Somewhere in Time meets Frequency?
So.. after reading people's thought here about the premise of the story.. how does it hold up? Is it Somewhere in Time meets Frequency?
More like treehouse of horrors V: Time and Punishment meets punk'd
I can't speak ill will about the film. It was enjoyable for what it was and for the price I paid to see it. I couldn't find any glaring loop holes in the whole time travel other then accepting that he has the ability to do it.
Worth a look.
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Just another endorsement for the movie. I saw it tonight at the Alamo in Austin (full disclosure - they serve food and beer which can make any movie better), and really enjoyed it.
To me, it felt like the writers really knew, and liked, all of their characters. Each one (with the exception of Evan's mother) got a lot of screen time and had a few different possibilites explored, which turned out to be fun. Acting was fine, decent effects, great ending.
Dave
To me, it felt like the writers really knew, and liked, all of their characters. Each one (with the exception of Evan's mother) got a lot of screen time and had a few different possibilites explored, which turned out to be fun. Acting was fine, decent effects, great ending.
Dave
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I distinctly remember Oasis at the end, but which song was it? I think it was off their latest, Heathen Chemistry. If I had to guess I'd say "Stop Crying Your Heart Out." Anyone remember for sure?
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I've seen it twice now and I still really like it - the 3 people I've seen it with all liked it as well. Glad to see some people here liked it and that I'm not the only one. Eh - anyway - most of the haters here didn't even go see it... at least I see movies before I review them.
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Originally posted by f1shf00d
whatever happened to that tv show that this is like? a couple years ago, there was this show where this guy heard a song and went back to high school each episode and he'd try to fix some part of his past which would change the future in a way he didn't like, and he'd hear the song again and go back and forth between future (present) and past each episode...I think it only lasted about 4-5 weeks then it was cancelled. It's funny how a few movies coming out a based on Groundhog Day and/or Memento plot devices....
whatever happened to that tv show that this is like? a couple years ago, there was this show where this guy heard a song and went back to high school each episode and he'd try to fix some part of his past which would change the future in a way he didn't like, and he'd hear the song again and go back and forth between future (present) and past each episode...I think it only lasted about 4-5 weeks then it was cancelled. It's funny how a few movies coming out a based on Groundhog Day and/or Memento plot devices....
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Actually it was That Was Then on ABC, not Do Over which was a really funny show imho.
The Buttefly Effect is getting reviews similar to Starship Troopers when it was released back in 1997. When Starship Troopers was released theatrically, most critics saw it as a CGI-loaded action film that went over the top in it's depection of violence. Most critics hated it and of course the film made a decent sum ($60 million), but not enough to claim a profit. Then of course the film was released to video and it grew a little afterlife where people (some people, anyway) actually realized the film was not a dumb action film with tons of violence, but was actually a pretty good satire done by Paul Verhoeven. Kinda like Robocop.
One of the reasons I think TBE is getting bad reviews is that a lot of critics want to see Ashton fail. I'm not an Ashton fan by any means (his past few films were god-awful), but I did think he did a damn fine job. Same goes for Amy Smart (whose only film I liked before this was Road Trip). I thought that the directors did a good job at covering the film's more "darker" subjects, including:
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I think the film might get a backlash due to:
A) Ashton was too much in the media last year and people are sick of him (ex: Bennifer).
B) This is a mainstream film not scared to take any chances. The trailers disguised the film as a romantic drama (similar to Somewhere In Time), but in reality TBE is really a dark science-fiction film with elements of drama and romance. People might go into this film expecting a Somewhere In Time type film, but will watch something else. This could either be a good thing, or a very bad thing.
The few people I know who have seen the film (or saw it with me) loved it with the exception of a few plot holes. Screw the critics' opinions on this film (with the exception of a good handful, most critics don't know shit and are only in it for the free goods from the studios), and go see the film if you're in the mood for something new from a mainstream studio. I applaud New Line for taking a chance with this film and releasing it to a wide audience (too bad they couldn't do the same for Angus or Cheats, but will for Dumb and Dumberer and The Son of the Mask).
The Butterfly Effect will probably end up being one of 2004's smartest and riskiest mainstream films, along with "underrated." Give the film a few years, and people might come back and appreciate it. The film is no Donnie Darko (but then, what can be?), but it's still one damn good film.
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This actor was also in Evolution and played a fairly stupid role in a stupid movie. He's been in several movies that I have seen but I never noticed him, probably because he was playing minor roles. I'm not saying he's a bad actor or anything but his performances have never caught my attention.
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The Buttefly Effect is getting reviews similar to Starship Troopers when it was released back in 1997. When Starship Troopers was released theatrically, most critics saw it as a CGI-loaded action film that went over the top in it's depection of violence. Most critics hated it and of course the film made a decent sum ($60 million), but not enough to claim a profit. Then of course the film was released to video and it grew a little afterlife where people (some people, anyway) actually realized the film was not a dumb action film with tons of violence, but was actually a pretty good satire done by Paul Verhoeven. Kinda like Robocop
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I loved this movie, I thought it was one of the best movies I have ever seen. I don't know where all the bad reviews are coming from. Im seeing it again tongiht and again later this week and probably again next week
Edit: Isn't this thread suppsoe to be about the fat goth kid? I don't know where that went wrong. There is nothing wrong with fat people and especially nothing with goth people, goth people are very cool (at least most of them) Don't push it unless you've tried it
Edit: Isn't this thread suppsoe to be about the fat goth kid? I don't know where that went wrong. There is nothing wrong with fat people and especially nothing with goth people, goth people are very cool (at least most of them) Don't push it unless you've tried it
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Originally posted by Justin00787
Edit: Isn't this thread suppsoe to be about the fat goth kid? I don't know where that went wrong. There is nothing wrong with fat people and especially nothing with goth people, goth people are very cool (at least most of them) Don't push it unless you've tried it
Edit: Isn't this thread suppsoe to be about the fat goth kid? I don't know where that went wrong. There is nothing wrong with fat people and especially nothing with goth people, goth people are very cool (at least most of them) Don't push it unless you've tried it