'Nemo' Plagiarized?
#51
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I found this link about E.T.. Looks like a lawsuit was filed from a playwright, but I don't see anything about an "out of court settlement." Looks like the studio won fair and square:
http://www.pbnnews.tv/litchfield.htm
http://www.pbnnews.tv/litchfield.htm
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Recent examples of US cine-plagiarism...
Originally posted by Kal Jedi
Dude, you're not making any sense. Yesterday you were normal but today, you're like, the Chinese guy from the Karate Kid. What's with you today?
Dude, you're not making any sense. Yesterday you were normal but today, you're like, the Chinese guy from the Karate Kid. What's with you today?
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Out-of court settlement
Originally posted by Grouch094820 & 5/17
I found this link about E.T.. Looks like a lawsuit was filed from a playwright, but I don't see anything about an "out of court settlement." Looks like the studio won fair and square:
http://www.pbnnews.tv/litchfield.htm
I found this link about E.T.. Looks like a lawsuit was filed from a playwright, but I don't see anything about an "out of court settlement." Looks like the studio won fair and square:
http://www.pbnnews.tv/litchfield.htm
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Re: Out-of court settlement
Originally posted by baracine
By definition, an "out-of-court settlement" is not recorded in court.
By definition, an "out-of-court settlement" is not recorded in court.
The one I mean is with the acknowledged real author of the story who wrote it for a local Church-based publication.
I would also like to see a link to the original 1995 illustrations of "Pierrot le poisson-clown" you found.
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Disney should counter-sue. "Pierrot le poisson-clown" - a cartoon featuring fish is clearly a rip-off of The Little Mermaid.
That's about how vague his case is now.
As far as Lucas ripping off a "Japanese Sci-Fi flick", it is well known - and admitted by Lucas - that he was heavily inspired by The Hidden Fortress. If you've seen both movies, then you know that there was clearly no plagarism between the two movies, and Lucas obviously didn't snatch up every copy of The Hidden Fortress and destroy it...but don't let the facts get in the way of your argument.
That's about how vague his case is now.
As far as Lucas ripping off a "Japanese Sci-Fi flick", it is well known - and admitted by Lucas - that he was heavily inspired by The Hidden Fortress. If you've seen both movies, then you know that there was clearly no plagarism between the two movies, and Lucas obviously didn't snatch up every copy of The Hidden Fortress and destroy it...but don't let the facts get in the way of your argument.
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Re: Re: Out-of court settlement
Originally posted by Grouch094820 & 5/17
I would also like to see a link to the original 1995 illustrations of "Pierrot le poisson-clown" you found. [/B]
I would also like to see a link to the original 1995 illustrations of "Pierrot le poisson-clown" you found. [/B]
http://www.dvdattitude.com/viewtopic...r=asc&start=15
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Originally posted by ToddSm66
As far as Lucas ripping off a "Japanese Sci-Fi flick", it is well known - and admitted by Lucas - that he was heavily inspired by The Hidden Fortress. If you've seen both movies, then you know that there was clearly no plagarism between the two movies, and Lucas obviously didn't snatch up every copy of The Hidden Fortress and destroy it...but don't let the facts get in the way of your argument.
As far as Lucas ripping off a "Japanese Sci-Fi flick", it is well known - and admitted by Lucas - that he was heavily inspired by The Hidden Fortress. If you've seen both movies, then you know that there was clearly no plagarism between the two movies, and Lucas obviously didn't snatch up every copy of The Hidden Fortress and destroy it...but don't let the facts get in the way of your argument.
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Originally posted by baracine
I am not talking about a classic like "The Hidden Fortress" but about a a color, contemporary, live-action, Japanese sci-fi flick that was taken off the market by Lukas.
I am not talking about a classic like "The Hidden Fortress" but about a a color, contemporary, live-action, Japanese sci-fi flick that was taken off the market by Lukas.
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I never said anything about the original 1995 illustrations since "Pierrot" started as a script, not a series of drawings. Here are more of the 2000 illustrations, though:
http://www.dvdattitude.com/viewtopi...er=asc&start=15
http://www.dvdattitude.com/viewtopi...er=asc&start=15
Error messages on the Internet? GOOD GOD MAN!
The fact that a french book could only be found in french language search! THATS IT, CALL IN THE CAVALRY!!
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#63
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Originally posted by ToddSm66
Disney should counter-sue. "Pierrot le poisson-clown" - a cartoon featuring fish is clearly a rip-off of The Little Mermaid.
That's about how vague his case is now.
Disney should counter-sue. "Pierrot le poisson-clown" - a cartoon featuring fish is clearly a rip-off of The Little Mermaid.
That's about how vague his case is now.
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After several google searches, the best I can come up with as far as the Japanese Star Wars rip-off is:
Star Force: Fugitive Alien 2
This was an MST3K episode, and was produced by Sandy Frank (Gamera, Time of the Apes, etc...) in 1986. This film did feature a Kabuki version of Darth Vader, as well as many other similarities to Star Wars.
Considering this was made 10 years after Start Wars, I'd hardly say that Lucas plagarised this - nor did he go out and destroy every known copy.
Naturally, this isn't the film you are referring to either...it's that other Japanese Sci-Fi flick, I'm sure.
Star Force: Fugitive Alien 2
This was an MST3K episode, and was produced by Sandy Frank (Gamera, Time of the Apes, etc...) in 1986. This film did feature a Kabuki version of Darth Vader, as well as many other similarities to Star Wars.
Considering this was made 10 years after Start Wars, I'd hardly say that Lucas plagarised this - nor did he go out and destroy every known copy.
Naturally, this isn't the film you are referring to either...it's that other Japanese Sci-Fi flick, I'm sure.
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Originally posted by Grouch094820 & 5/17
And you STILL haven't provided a link.
And you STILL haven't provided a link.
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The plagiarism never stops...
This is a link to an edition of the Miami Education Review which contains an article on the exact parallels between the Star Wars storyline and "The Lord of the Rings" (Search for the article by "Colebatch"):
http://anythingprose.typepad.com/any...as_rowling.htm
http://anythingprose.typepad.com/any...as_rowling.htm
#67
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Are you talking about this?
If so, you don't understand the difference between homage and plagiarism.
I'm still waiting for a link about the sci-fi film that Lucas "bought outright, took off the market, and destroyed."
BTW, here's a link where you can buy the television series mentioned above:
http://www.generationkikaida.com/
So much for taking it off the market.
George Lucas said in an interview that Darth Vader was based on Hakaider, a villain from the superhero TV series, "Jinzô ningen Kikaidâ" (1972), which he saw while he was in Japan.
I'm still waiting for a link about the sci-fi film that Lucas "bought outright, took off the market, and destroyed."
BTW, here's a link where you can buy the television series mentioned above:
http://www.generationkikaida.com/
So much for taking it off the market.
Last edited by Groucho; 01-07-04 at 01:38 PM.
#68
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I just looked through all the www.imdb.com trivia for Star Wars and nowhere does it say anything about plagiarism or stolen ideas.
Strange.
Strange.
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I can't believe you guys are seriously arguing with a man who brags about drinking his own breast milk.
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Originally posted by baracine
What you won't find is that Lukas bought out the distribution in North America (although it played in my native Quebec) of the TV-series-turned-feature-film which inspired Darth Vader and Princess Leia (which according to his version was inspired by a man.)
What you won't find is that Lukas bought out the distribution in North America (although it played in my native Quebec) of the TV-series-turned-feature-film which inspired Darth Vader and Princess Leia (which according to his version was inspired by a man.)
Nor should he.
Getting inspiration to create a character from watching a Japanese television show is not plagarism. The fact that you are yelling "Plagarism!" on just about every movie made in the U.S. clearly shows that you have no true understanding as to what the word even means.
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Jinzô ningen Kikaidâ
The producers of the Japanese TV show "Jinzô ningen Kikaidâ" (1972) put together, shortly after "Star Wars" came out (1977), a feature-film containing all the elements Lukas had ripped off from the series. This feature film is the one that Lukas bought out when it was distributed in North America. It played in Quebec however, and was reviewed in Quebec papers where the general impression was, at the time: "What's the point? It's just a bad 'Star Wars' rip-off." It just goes to show... History repeats itself.
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I found this fan site on the Kikaida television series:http://incolor.inebraska.com/stuart/kikaida/
(warning: turn your volume down before clicking)
No mention of Lucas, the 1977 movie, or any of the other claims made by baracine.
Look at the pic on the left and decide for yourself if it's a rip-off or not.
Last edited by Groucho; 01-07-04 at 02:20 PM.




