He should just surrender to Disney. It's in his blood.

Apparently...
 

None of you Disney/Pixar fans have any sense of morality and none of you get the point.

The rip-off is self-evident from the facts produced so far. It is clear some unscrupulous Pixar employee turned down the Frenchman's idea back in 1995 and then appropriated it for himself. This being, Pixar will have to pay and pay big.

What's more, this is going to be tried in a French court with the whole world watching. Just what the French have been waiting for in their ongoing war against US cultural imperialism and unfair trade practices in the field of film distribution.

Re: Apparently...
 

I do hope you're joking cuz that's one of the most absurd generalizations ever.

Re: Apparently...
 

:lol: I'll ignore the personal attack and get to your other arguments.It is?It is? Even if you take the guy's story at face value, nowhere does he state that he met with a Pixar employee.Based on what? Certainly not on the evidence presented in this thread. Do you have other evidence that hasn't been shared yet?Yeah, right. "The trial of the century."Your bias is showing. Cultural imperialism? Ha! I've been to France. They aren't forced to see American films, wear American clothes, or eat at McDonalds. They CHOOSE to. If the French stop giving money to American companies, the companies will leave. Simple as that.

Furthermore...
 

I'm sure you will have noticed that none of the big US conglomerate-owned entertainment "news" shows have featured this item.

"Inside Edition", "Entertainment Tonight", etc. were all exclusively preoccupied with Britney Spears' latest sluttish behavior. CNN posted the item on their site on December 31, 2003 (when everyone was busy doing something else) and have since deleted any mention of it.

National orange-alert security measures for the forthcoming war with France?
:johnwoo:

Re: Furthermore...
 

That's because it's pretty much a non-story. If this guy comes up with more conclusive evidence, it would get get more press.Are you for real?

Recent examples of US cine-plagiarism...
 

... include the important out-of-court settlement Spielberg and al. had to pay for ripping off a Sunday-school teacher for her original story of "E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial" and the Japanese sci-fi flick George Lukas had to buy outright, take off the market and destroy because it contained the characters of Pincess Leia and Darth Vader he had "accidentally" ripped off.

Re: Recent examples of US cine-plagiarism...
 

Links?

And of course, even if these stories are 100% true they have no bearing on the Nemo case.

Re: Re: Recent examples of US cine-plagiarism...
 

Nothing has any bearing on anything. The universe is comprised of absolutely independent atoms who have never met socially.

Re: Re: Re: Recent examples of US cine-plagiarism...
 

Dude, you're not making any sense. Yesterday you were normal but today, you're like, the Chinese guy from the Karate Kid. What's with you today?

I found this link about E.T.. Looks like a lawsuit was filed from a playwright, but I don't see anything about an "out of court settlement." Looks like the studio won fair and square:

http://www.pbnnews.tv/litchfield.htm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Recent examples of US cine-plagiarism...
 

What is wrong with me today is that I have been researching this story for days and have come across all sorts of mysterious deletions and error messages posted all over the Internet. I'm not one for conspiracy theories but, as far as this story is concerned, the only way I could have access to the original "Pierrot le poisson-clown" illustrations and the full report was to switch Google to "French only" pages...

Out-of court settlement
 

By definition, an "out-of-court settlement" is not recorded in court. The one I mean is with the acknowledged real author of the story who wrote it for a local Church-based publication.

Re: Out-of court settlement
 

The amount of the settlement isn't recorded, but the fact that the parties agreed to settle their dispute outside of the courtroom is.Different lawsuit, it seems. Again, I ask for a link. Also for the George Lucas story.

I would also like to see a link to the original 1995 illustrations of "Pierrot le poisson-clown" you found.

Disney should counter-sue. "Pierrot le poisson-clown" - a cartoon featuring fish is clearly a rip-off of The Little Mermaid.

That's about how vague his case is now.


As far as Lucas ripping off a "Japanese Sci-Fi flick", it is well known - and admitted by Lucas - that he was heavily inspired by The Hidden Fortress. If you've seen both movies, then you know that there was clearly no plagarism between the two movies, and Lucas obviously didn't snatch up every copy of The Hidden Fortress and destroy it...but don't let the facts get in the way of your argument.

Not to mention that The Hidden Fortress isn't even a sci-fi flick.

Someone hasn't seen Empire Records apparently. :D

Re: Re: Out-of court settlement
 

I never said anything about the original 1995 illustrations since "Pierrot" started as a script, not a series of drawings. Here are more of the 2000 illustrations, though:

http://www.dvdattitude.com/viewtopic...r=asc&start=15

I am not talking about a classic like "The Hidden Fortress" but about a a color, contemporary, live-action, Japanese sci-fi flick that was taken off the market by Lukas.

And you STILL haven't provided a link.

...and that flick was...? Amazing how you are the only person that has ever heard this news.

GOOD GOD MAN! Computer generated images of FISH!!!! Its amazing..you are the next Woodward or maybe even Bernstein!!


Error messages on the Internet? GOOD GOD MAN!

The fact that a french book could only be found in french language search! THATS IT, CALL IN THE CAVALRY!!

:up:

After several google searches, the best I can come up with as far as the Japanese Star Wars rip-off is:

<a href="http://doctor-forrester.home.mindspring.com/reviews_s03_ep318.html" target="_blank">Star Force: Fugitive Alien 2</a>

This was an MST3K episode, and was produced by Sandy Frank (Gamera, Time of the Apes, etc...) in 1986. This film did feature a Kabuki version of Darth Vader, as well as many other similarities to Star Wars.

Considering this was made 10 years after Start Wars, I'd hardly say that Lucas plagarised this - nor did he go out and destroy every known copy.



Naturally, this isn't the film you are referring to either...it's that other Japanese Sci-Fi flick, I'm sure.

The whole sordid story of the multiple plagiarisms that produced the "original" Star Wars appears on the "Trivia" page of the "Star Wars" entry in the Internet Movie Data base. What you won't find is that Lukas bought out the distribution in North America (although it played in my native Quebec) of the 1972 TV-series-turned-feature-film which inspired Darth Vader and Princess Leia (which according to his version was inspired by a man.)

The plagiarism never stops...
 

This is a link to an edition of the Miami Education Review which contains an article on the exact parallels between the Star Wars storyline and "The Lord of the Rings" (Search for the article by "Colebatch"):

http://anythingprose.typepad.com/any...as_rowling.htm

Are you talking about this?If so, you don't understand the difference between homage and plagiarism.

I'm still waiting for a link about the sci-fi film that Lucas "bought outright, took off the market, and destroyed."

BTW, here's a link where you can buy the television series mentioned above:

http://www.generationkikaida.com/

So much for taking it off the market. :lol:

I just looked through all the www.imdb.com trivia for Star Wars and nowhere does it say anything about plagiarism or stolen ideas.

Strange.

:lol:rotfl:lol:

I can't believe you guys are seriously arguing with a man who brags about drinking his own breast milk.

You won't find that, because it's not true. This entire series can be bought on DVD right now - region 1. That's North America. Lucasfilm isn't selling it, nor does Lucas own the rights to the series.

Nor should he.

Getting inspiration to create a character from watching a Japanese television show is not plagarism. The fact that you are yelling "Plagarism!" on just about every movie made in the U.S. clearly shows that you have no true understanding as to what the word even means.

Jinzô ningen Kikaidâ
 

The producers of the Japanese TV show "Jinzô ningen Kikaidâ" (1972) put together, shortly after "Star Wars" came out (1977), a feature-film containing all the elements Lukas had ripped off from the series. This feature film is the one that Lukas bought out when it was distributed in North America. It played in Quebec however, and was reviewed in Quebec papers where the general impression was, at the time: "What's the point? It's just a bad 'Star Wars' rip-off." It just goes to show... History repeats itself.

Holy crap!! George Lucas ripped off the Power Rangers!! -eek-

Yet you STILL haven't provided a link.

<img align=left src="http://incolor.inebraska.com/stuart/kikaida/kikaida15.jpg">I found this fan site on the Kikaida television series:

http://incolor.inebraska.com/stuart/kikaida/

(warning: turn your volume down before clicking)

No mention of Lucas, the 1977 movie, or any of the other claims made by baracine.

Look at the pic on the left and decide for yourself if it's a rip-off or not.<BR CLEAR="ALL">

Don't we have a member of the band who went nuts on the forum years ago making similiar outlandish claims on how any popular American film was nothing but plagiarism?

That was Loco Peligroso, and I don't think he was ever banned.

This series has had a long and varied history...
 

You can't show a random recent picture and expect it to relate to a character developed in 1972 (Darth Vader).

Yup, you're right. He was not banned, just went OOP.

Both characters wear a helmet.

Clearly a case of plagarism.