Pants, or rather, Roger Ebert, spoiled Gerry.

I thought Elephant was great. I did not mind that it was not related to Columbine. However, this makes me want to see Last Days less, as I really wanted to see something about Cobain, not just "inspired by" his story.

One reviewer made the observation that his scene is very similar to that of Scatman Crothers' Dick Hallorann getting killed in Kubrick's The Shining. Take that for what its worth of course: an observation. I believe the comparison holds some credence, even in the most basic regard: possible saviors getting killed before a chance to act (which is a pretty horrifying situation, expecially the way it's rendered in both films).

any fans of this film and/or Gerry owe it to themselves to see some works by Béla Tarr, starting with Werckmeister Harmonies.

I found a good review of the movies that's almost exactly the way the I look at it, better written.

http://www.lumiere.net.nz/reader/con...william_4.html

Also some more interesting tidbits that I didn't see mentioned, there was a another Elephant, very similar in style, about some murders in Belfast, Ireland. I had heard that the name came from an old story about 3 blind men touching an elephant, and each one thinks he's holding on to something different. This fits, but it could just as easily be based on the Bernard MacLaverty quote "The elephant in our living room nobody mentions, because it's just so enormous"(which is what the first Elephant movie is based on, both referring to the problems in Northern Ireland).

It could also just as easily be both.

Thought the movie was ok. I really liked the style of the film, but there were just too many WTF moments in this movie.

^ not to mention the lack of a fire alarm going off

I have seen this movie a few times on IFC and Sundance Channel and I think it's an ok movie. The ending was very haunting.

I watched this last night and it ending up being a huge "WTF". The long tracking shots with no dialog were boring beyond belief. There was no character development whatsoever to make me care one bit about any of them. I hit FF a few times just to get to a point in the movie with some dialog.