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Old 09-19-03 | 10:38 PM
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anyone seen this film yet?





this is a really accurate and hardcore portrayl of young girls.

hard to believe that they're only supposed to be 13 though.

great performances by Nicki Reed & Evan Rachel Wood.

Reed cowrote with director Catharine Hardwick.
Old 09-19-03 | 10:43 PM
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Wanna go see it. Accurate? Not exactly, what I've read they seem to go way to the extreme.
Old 09-20-03 | 04:20 PM
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Just got out of this one. Accurate? Maybe, for a very small portion of the population. But then again, what do I know, I didn't grow up in L.A. Maybe shit is really like this there.

The pacing of this movie seemed very off to me. I could never tell when a day had passed or a week had passed. Major interactions between characters were not shown or implied but then were referenced to as if we were just supposed to expect them to happen. The first time Tracy's mother went to see Evie's cousin, it seemed like they had known each other for a while. When did that happen?

Interesting film nonetheless. I'm glad I saw it, as I had been interested in seeing it for a while now. I know the actors were significantly older than thirteen, and they didn't hide that fact very well.

My favorite performance came from Jeremy Sisto. Good work!
Old 09-20-03 | 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by Bust
I know the actors were significantly older than thirteen, and they didn't hide that fact very well.
I wouldn't say significantly.

Evan Rachel Wood b. 7 September 1987
Nikki Reed b. 1988

I still haven't seen this movie, although I really want to. My roommate saw it, though, and positively hated it.
Old 09-20-03 | 09:53 PM
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I wouldn't say significantly.

Evan Rachel Wood b. 7 September 1987
Nikki Reed b. 1988
I stand corrected. I could have sworn that I heard the girl who wrote it was like 18 or 19. I believe she played the role of Evie. Maybe I'll go look it up.
Old 09-21-03 | 08:28 AM
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Saw the movie a few weeks back and was impressed. The performances are solid all around.

As for being extreme and way over the top, people need to wake up, and that's the movie's point. Sure it's a small percentage of kids that may be like this, but it happens. And you're either naive or in denial if you think not. And as Holly Hunter's character says she "didn't know it went that far".

Growing up, I remember one girl getting pregnant when she was 13, and was stunned. Each generation has exceeded the next when it comes to shock value, and it only accelerates now with the instantaneous news feeds.

There was some news / reality show on TV that talked about a group of girls in their early teens in a small town who went on a crime binge and held up some convenience stores and were captured on tape. It was pretty scary, because it WASN'T a movie.

As for the ages of the characters, I don't know when the film was shot, so they may have been even closer to 13 at the time.
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Yeah, stuff like this happens. Not always in urban settings, mind you. I was watching Dateline NBC once and they did a story about a town named Banning (which is just outside Riverside, for anyone living in Southern California). There were only a few dozen teenagers in the town, and it was extremely small and boring. They only thing to do there is go shopping at outlets. So they formed a sex club and had all kinds of sexcapades, right under the noses of their parents. It only came to light when they all had to be treated for Gonorrhea
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Just saw this yesterday. Very powerful film, and I don't think the actions depicted in it are that farfetched. I can imagine parents all over American scrutinizing their children more carefully, rolling up sleeves, etc.

Evan Rachel Wood gave a terrific performance. It was obvious on "Once and Again" that she's a fine actress, and I'm sure she'll have a great film career.
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I would think the 'teens doing very naughty things' happens more in small towns because there is nothing to do. I used to live in one it happened.
Old 09-22-03 | 04:32 AM
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does this flick have any good lesbian action in it? translation: is it worth seeing?

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Old 09-22-03 | 06:46 AM
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The two leads do a little mouth-to-mouth but that's it.
Old 09-22-03 | 07:31 AM
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Saw it yesterday. I thought the performances were excellent. Movie: ***/****, acting: ****/****.
Old 09-22-03 | 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by jekbrown
does this flick have any good lesbian action in it? translation: is it worth seeing?

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Yes. The entire film is one long sex scene between the two girls.
Old 09-23-03 | 02:05 PM
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all I can say is after watching this film... I ran home to hug my 12 year old daughter... and to tell her that I love her... very powerful film, and while I agree that this is obviously dramatized for impact... It is a fairly unflinching look at the impact of peers on "good kids"
Old 09-23-03 | 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by Lono
all I can say is after watching this film... I ran home to hug my 12 year old daughter... and to tell her that I love her
well said.....

I have a 12 yr old daughter, too, and I really want to see this film.
Too bad it is on so few screens - and not near me

Guess I'll just wait for the DVD.
Old 09-24-03 | 11:21 PM
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I watched this movie today. I was impressed even with the hype. Not as extreme as many critics have made it out to be (no sex scenes). But overall a fantastic film.
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Old 10-06-03 | 12:17 AM
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"Eight-year-olds, dude."
Old 10-06-03 | 02:31 PM
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I haven't seen the film yet, and might not still. My teenage stepdaughter is just now growing out of a phase where she hung out with this type of "extreme" girl, among others. In other words, too frikkin' close to home.


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